Changes TV3 should make.

EdmondShiels3

I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?

Banjoxed

EdmondShiels3 wrote: »

I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?

Shut down.

desbrook

After 9pm call themselves Sunday World TV and be done with it!

The Cush

EdmondShiels3 wrote: »

I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?

Won't make any difference, they are saddled with huge debt - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89400686

haveabanana

They should make more programmes about travellers.

Onthe3rdDay

EdmondShiels3 wrote: »

I think the whole channel should be redesigned but keep the name. What does anyone think about changing the name? I would not do it but want to know what people think. What changes could you make?

Actually of all the things to do, the first would be to change the name, it's tainted at this stage, much like the Sunday World or some of the other tabloids. Between programmes about travellers, poor journalism, the whole phone quiz/psychic affair, the poor quality picture on Sports, I could go on.

irishfeen

TV3 might just be too far gone and in too much debt to survive but a complete change in approach is needed to have any chance - if I was running TV3 I would over a short period of time;

- Combine TV3/3e down to one single channel/schedule maybe with a change in name to start afresh.

- Launch TV3 HD as soon as possible to launch on all platforms.

- Negotiate with UTVI over leasing EPG slot 105 for say a 10 year period of time and ensure a constant supply of funding.

- For Champions League/Europa Lg coverage next season (in HD), end studio analysis and TV3 commentary and use international feed.

- Bring Vincent Browne forward to 10-11pm incorporated with a main evening news bulletin @10pm with Conan/another US talk show from 11-12pm and Family Guy and American Dad into the early hours of the morning.

- Expand the News & Current affairs department (not decimate it) with live updates on the hour every hour including the ability to break away from normal programming for major Breaking News events.

- Two new half hour news bulletins @ 12/7pm.

- Try and get Hollyoaks and Home & Away in particular along with the new TV3 soap to cover that audience.

- Concentrate efforts on prime time television (after 12/1pm)

- Get rid of Xpose at 6pm and reschedule it to before 3pm.

- Get rid of Judge Judy at 04.30pm to before 3pm.

- Use the BAI's Sound and Vision fund much more to make new Irish homegrown content.

- Look seriously into new co-productions with the BBC/ITV akin to what RTÉ does very regularly.

lertsnim

Looking at the Champions League coverage now tells me HD is a must. Trevor Welch droning on is a massive turn off too.

irishfeen

lertsnim wrote: »

Looking at the Champions League coverage now tells me HD is a must. Trevor Welch droning on is a massive turn off too.

They certainly missing out on me as a viewer anyway - crystal clear free to air ITV HD for me.

EdmondShiels3

I would keep 3e and make it into a channel like e4 but maybe not as much original programs as e4. Something like what channel 6 was with a few new programs

irishfeen

Martin Tyler and Niall Quinn commentating on the international feed tonight ... TV3 could easily improve the quality of the coverage and save money in the process ... the mind boggles!

lertsnim

Does Trevor Welch commentate from the games or some closet in TV3?

irishfeen

lertsnim wrote: »

Does Trevor Welch commentate from the games or some closet in TV3?

No he do be at the matches alright - an unnecessary expense for TV3 who could just use the international commentary feed - might not sound like saving much but every little helps and could go towards acquiring more sports rights.

lertsnim

Not a bad number for him if he still does the Europa League too.

iseegirls

lertsnim wrote: »

Does Trevor Welch commentate from the games or some closet in TV3?

I get the feeling though that he commentates in the TV3 studios during Europa League matches. Barely anything is commented off the camera , so maybe he's only sent out for Champions League games or even when they're just in England.

Jason_

In surprised communicorp haven't stepped in and bought out tv3.

Elmo

Jason_ wrote: »

In surprised communicorp haven't stepped in and bought out tv3.

They wouldn't be let, they had to sell off FM104, bought by UTV. There interest in INM is what prevents it happening.

TV3 need to step up now to increase audience share. They are still just hovering around 10% audience share. They will need to see an increase before Coro St and Emmerdale go.

They need to focus on their Prime Time Schudule. The seem to not realise that UK reality (Boozy Brits), small quiz shows (Celeb Versions of The Chase), factual programmes (DIY SOS) and crime docs don't satisfy Irish audiences on Irish TV channels, they need to do their own versions of these.

Though not Boozy Irish (Kind of racist), or Celeb versions of The Lie (we don't have celebs).

Jason_

If communicorp bought them they could use alot of their radio stars as presenters, Ray Darcy and his wife could do a teatime Richard and Judy style show, Matt Cooper and Pat Kenny could go head to head with primetime, some spin 1038 djs could do Saturday morning teen shows.

Elmo

Jason_ wrote: »

If communicorp bought them they could use alot of their radio stars as presenters, Ray Darcy and his wife could do a teatime Richard and Judy style show, Matt Cooper and Pat Kenny could go head to head with primetime, some spin 1038 djs could do Saturday morning teen shows.

TodayFM wouldn't want Ray D'Arcy on TV3 at the same time as they have him on TodayFM.

They also need to realise that you can't just put Radio on the TV.

irishfeen

Jason_ wrote: »

If communicorp bought them they could use alot of their radio stars as presenters, Ray Darcy and his wife could do a teatime Richard and Judy style show, Matt Cooper and Pat Kenny could go head to head with primetime, some spin 1038 djs could do Saturday morning teen shows.

Please god we don't ever get subjected to such a thing

AlanS181824

TV3 should close altogether IMO but not 3e.

irishfeen

AlanS181824 wrote: »

TV3 should close altogether IMO but not 3e.

What they really need to do is combine both schedules down to one channel and try something like this -

07-10am - Ireland AM.
10-12pm - Kids programming.
12pm - TV3 News
12.30-3pm - Xpose, Judge Judy, Come Dine With Me etc. - (Women Based)
3-7pm - Friends, That 70 Show, The Cube (Teenage/Youth Adult Based)
7pm - TV3 Main Evening News
7.30-10pm Sports Matches, Irish programming, TV series, Soaps, Films
10pm - Tonight with Vincent Browne
11pm on - Conan, Family Guy, American Dad, Cleveland Show.

iseegirls

irishfeen wrote: »

What they really need to do is combine both schedules down to one channel and try something like this -

07-10am - Ireland AM.
10-12pm - Kids programming.
12pm - TV3 News
12.30-3pm - Xpose, Judge Judy, Come Dine With Me etc. - (Women Based)
3-7pm - Friends, That 70 Show, The Cube (Teenage/Youth Adult Based)
7pm - TV3 Main Evening News
7.30-10pm Sports Matches, Irish programming, TV series, Soaps, Films
10pm - Tonight with Vincent Browne
11pm on - Conan, Family Guy, American Dad, Cleveland Show.

Really like this schedule - especially the Youth Adult Based programmes between 3 and 7. Programmes like Modern Family, The Middle and Glee could fit in here nicely.

They won't go with kids progs, as they gave up with them back in 2000 when they had such greats like Ren And Stimpy. Maybe only do it if they were going Retro with that section, and show classic kids shows.

Conan hasn't been shown on 3e since December, so maybe they haven't renewed that - which is a pity.

irishfeen

iseegirls wrote: »

Really like this schedule - especially the Youth Adult Based programmes between 3 and 7. Programmes like Modern Family, The Middle and Glee could fit in here nicely.

They won't go with kids progs, as they gave up with them back in 2000 when they had such greats like Ren And Stimpy. Maybe only do it if they were going Retro with that section, and show classic kids shows.

Conan hasn't been shown on 3e since December, so maybe they haven't renewed that - which is a pity.

Yeah I forgot about Modern Family and The Middle ... they would slide in easily into the teenage window or even maybe into the prime time schedule.

I think kids shows would be a grand way to fill the schedule (not many people watch TV at that time anyway and they period is saturated) and a few homegrown shows could help meet PSB requirements. Who knows a few of the shows could be sold on to the UK and beyond too to recoup revenue for the prime time schedule. What about reinventing "The Den" after it was dropped by RTÉ even - a relatively cheap way to bring back a former Irish institution.

As for Conan I don't know, I remember him being live at the press launch for TV3's schedule not so long ago so they might be able to get it back relatively easy - they could also go for other US talk shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live, The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson or the new Letterman slot who Stephen Colbert is taking over.... the possibilities are endless for TV3, it seems to be a complete lack of vision from the stations hierarchy which has/is leading to its meltdown.

Elmo

I don't really see the need to shut down 3E

07:00 Ireland AM
11:00 Without A Trace
12:00 L&O: SVU
13:00 3NEWS with Sybil Mulchay and Elaine Crowley (replaces Midday)
14:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
15:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
16:00 Judge Judy
17:00 3NEWS with Anton Savage and Collette Fitzpatrick (replaces Anton's Ireland AM and Midweek)
19:00 Different Feature programming e.g. Movie show, Tech Show (replaces Xpose)
19:30 The Middle, Modern Family type shows
20:00 The Lie, Crossfire, Entertainment, Reality
21:00 Crisis, The Best US/UK programming
22:00 TV3 Docs and Sound and Vision Fund programmes
23:00 Tonight with VB
00:00 3e Prime Time Repeats

3e

07:00 Music AM
11:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
12:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
13:00 Soap
14:00 Friends
15:00 That 70's Show
16:00 Glee
17:00 Music
18:00 Music
19:00 3e News
20:00 Arrow (Not Stripped)
21:00 The Tomorrow People (Not Stripped)
22:00 Supernatural (Not Stripped)
23:00 Conan
00:00 Family Guy
01:00 American Dad

irishfeen

Elmo wrote: »

I don't really see the need to shut down 3E

07:00 Ireland AM
11:00 Without A Trace
12:00 L&O: SVU
13:00 3NEWS with Sybil Mulchay and Elaine Crowley (replaces Midday)
14:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
15:00 Repeats of Prime Time Shows
16:00 Judge Judy
17:00 3NEWS with Anton Savage and Collette Fitzpatrick (replaces Anton's Ireland AM and Midweek)
19:00 Different Feature programming e.g. Movie show, Tech Show (replaces Xpose)
19:30 The Middle, Modern Family type shows
20:00 The Lie, Crossfire, Entertainment, Reality
21:00 Crisis, The Best US/UK programming
22:00 TV3 Docs and Sound and Vision Fund programmes
23:00 Tonight with VB
00:00 3e Prime Time Repeats

3e

07:00 Music AM
11:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
12:00 TV3 Repeat Prime Time Shows
13:00 Soap
14:00 Friends
15:00 That 70's Show
16:00 Glee
17:00 Music
18:00 Music
19:00 3e News
20:00 Arrow (Not Stripped)
21:00 The Tomorrow People (Not Stripped)
22:00 Supernatural (Not Stripped)
23:00 Conan
00:00 Family Guy
01:00 American Dad

Its diluting the audience over the two channels and IMO there is absolutely no need for a second channel - I see you are repeating an awful lot of the prime time schedule even on TV3 and 3e is still beyond weak .... that's basically what they have now for the most - I like the increase in news output though! (but Sybil Mulchay? :eek: :pac: )

For me they need to lease out EPG 105 and put the money to use in launching a HD channel and improving and getting their prime time schedule on ONE channel right - don't get me wrong though your schedule would be a massive improvement on the current output.

Elmo

irishfeen wrote: »

Its diluting the audience over the two channels and IMO there is absolutely no need for a second channel - I see you are repeating an awful lot of the prime time schedule even on TV3 and 3e is still beyond weak .... that's basically what they have now for the most - I like the increase in news output though! (but Sybil Mulchay? :eek: :pac: )

For me they need to lease out EPG 105 and put the money to use in launching a HD channel and improving and getting their prime time schedule on ONE channel right - don't get me wrong though your schedule would be a massive improvement on the current output.

Cybil start out in news.

Digital TV give a choice of schedule. Currently 3e repeats TV3's morning and many of its tabloid docs.

I put the repeats outside prime time schedules. Both Prime Times are different and aimed at different audiences.

irishfeen

Elmo wrote: »

Cybil start out in news.

Digital TV give a choice of schedule. Currently 3e repeats TV3's morning and many of its tabloid docs.

I put the repeats outside prime time schedules. Both Prime Times are different and aimed at different audiences.

I just don't think TV3 have the resources/quality programming to run two channels and IMO they would be better focusing all their attention on devising a good solid well rounded primary HD television channel.

There is no need for 3e, its as simple as that ... their current financial situation/losing key ITV rights means they have to cut out all unnecessary expenditure to survive.

Its funny that the two different schedules that both of us has devised in the space of 5 minute are better then what has been on TV3 for years - heads need to roll at TV3 for them to have any chance.

Elmo

we will really have to wait and see what they buy in.

RTÉ spend about 20m on 11,000 hours of TV, TV3 seem to have mis-used their ITV programmes. It will be interesting to see how many ITV programmes UTV show with the same package.

Jason_

People have suggested that Tv3 snap up Home and away, how much would that cost ? Would rte let it go so easily? It doesn't really pull in big numbers on rte2 anymore.

endacl

irishfeen wrote: »

Please god we don't ever get subjected to such a thing

It's d'telly. One is never subjected. One volunteers.

Mr Pseudonym

Jason_ wrote: »

People have suggested that Tv3 snap up Home and away, how much would that cost ? Would rte let it go so easily? It doesn't really pull in big numbers on rte2 anymore.

I think it's their most popular regular programme: Aertel Ratings.

iseegirls

Jason_ wrote: »

People have suggested that Tv3 snap up Home and away, how much would that cost ? Would rte let it go so easily? It doesn't really pull in big numbers on rte2 anymore.

It did used to pull in a far larger number before though.
If TV3 were to go for Home And Away, then they'd need to air it as close to possible after Australia airs it. There is no need for such a long break now, and from wiki, they were 27 episodes behind last year.

EdmondShiels3

I think there is a reason we are that far behind and channel 5 are only a few episodes ahead of us. A lot of people are watch on youtube now so that is where the viewers for Home and away have gone and it is not as good as it use to be.

Fred Swanson

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kn

VB at 11pm is just too late for many people who watch/listen to current affairs.

irishfeen

Taking into account Elmo's News presenters I think something like this on a weekday would work very well and would be a real alternative to soap filled RTÉ and TV3. No major changes in programming (Except the introduction of Kids programmings) but a reorganistation down to one single HD channel and the removal of repeating shows over and over again.

07:00 Ireland AM
10:00 3 Kids: The Den – (Studio based show with classic/new homegrown shows)
12:00 3News: w/ Sybil Mulchay and Elaine Crowley.
12:30 Xpose.
13:00 Come Dine with Me.
13:30 Judge Judy
14:00 The Jeremy Kyle Show
15:00 The Chase
16:00 The Cube
17:00 Friends
17:30 The Lie
18:00 That 70’s Show
18:30 The Big Bang Theory
19:00 3 News: w/ Anton Savage and Collette Fitzpatrick
19:30 Modern Family
20:30 The Middle
21:30 American Dad
22:00 Tonight With Vincent Browne
23:00 Conan
00:00 Family Guy
00:30 The Cleveland Show

Elmo

irishfeen wrote: »

Taking into account Elmo's News presenters I think something like this on a weekday would work very well and would be a real alternative to soap filled RTÉ and TV3. No major changes in programming (Except the introduction of Kids programmings) but a reorganistation down to one single HD channel and the removal of repeating shows over and over again.

You've reduce all my news

Midday is like Xpose, largely pointless that's why I thought of putting 2 female presenters on the news and you'd not have to put up with the continued oh women aren't represented blah blah blah. (IMO: Women should be insulted by the way TV3 represent them on both shows).

The 5 to 7 news gives TV3 a lead into news before Six:One, not just a minute :rolleyes:

I can't see TV3 going after children's TV.

Prime Time shows like That 70’s Show, The Big Bang Theory, Modern Family, The Middle, American Dad, Conan and Family Guy won't get the type of audience that TV3 want/need.

No offence to Current Affairs lovers but UTV are going to have a CA programme and both RTÉ and TV3 have four each week (VB, Prime Time and TWIP). I think there is too much News and Current Affairs on Irish TV.

Elmo

Two articles on TV3 in the Sindo one by D. McRedmond.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/ireland-is-the-new-hub-for-tv-formats-30180127.html

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/battle-stations-30177009.html

Sam Russell

The second article, above, starts:

Perhaps its greatest achievement was getting on air and staying there for one and a half decades with minimal help from the TV licence payer.

They obviously are unaware of the €80 million loan owed to the taxpayer which is parked at zero interest and basically written off. TV3 have also been able to buy back €60 m at a discount, again at the expense of the taxpayer.

The TV Licence payer was obviously not a taxpayer if they were not involved in the bail-out.

Mind you, it is in the Indo .......

Elmo

They have no plans to close 3e 23 RWC games to be put on the channel with 20 on TV3.

irishfeen

Elmo wrote: »

You've reduce all my news

Midday is like Xpose, largely pointless that's why I thought of putting 2 female presenters on the news and you'd not have to put up with the continued oh women aren't represented blah blah blah. (IMO: Women should be insulted by the way TV3 represent them on both shows).

The 5 to 7 news gives TV3 a lead into news before Six:One, not just a minute :rolleyes:

I can't see TV3 going after children's TV.

Prime Time shows like That 70’s Show, The Big Bang Theory, Modern Family, The Middle, American Dad, Conan and Family Guy won't get the type of audience that TV3 want/need.

No offence to Current Affairs lovers but UTV are going to have a CA programme and both RTÉ and TV3 have four each week (VB, Prime Time and TWIP). I think there is too much News and Current Affairs on Irish TV.

We can work on re-introducing your news Elmo .. What audience TV3 want/need is the big question... they have lost Coronation Street and Emmerdale and RTÉ have retained Eastenders and the other BBC content so initially at least TV3 can expect to be pushed to 3rd position in the ratings behind RTÉ One and UTVI .. the prime time programmes which I set out would be of a standard to offer a real alternative and would help TV3 to rebuild their schedule over time and more importantly keep the station broadcasting.

I think they need to cover all age groups including kids, TV3 had inquired about launching a kids channel so they have considered it at least and would allow them fulfill their PSB requirements while rebuilding their homegrown prime time schedule.

Onthe3rdDay

Elmo wrote: »

You've reduce all my news

No offence to Current Affairs lovers but UTV are going to have a CA programme and both RTÉ and TV3 have four each week (VB, Prime Time and TWIP). I think there is too much News and Current Affairs on Irish TV.

You might think that but you have to give the people what they want. RTE One would never work in the UK because of it's high levels of current affiars in Prime time. Local Radio stations in this Country have to provide 20% news and current affairs, Outside of Dublin most put out almost 40%.

As far as I'm concerned TV3 have lost the housewives market now that the soaps have gone to UTVI. RTE at that time are also showing shows that are more geared to a non current affairs Market.

What I would do if I were TV3 would be to counter schedule to everyone else. Those that watch news are less likely to be interested in Soaps (especially males 25-55) So an evening would look something like this.

6.00 Comedy Hour (Big Bang Theory etc)
7.00 One of the quizzes in development (hopefully they'll have a decent one by this time next year.
7.30 Main Evening News.
8.00 Vincent Browne/Other Current Affairs.
9.00 US/ Aus Series
10.00 US/Aus Series
11.00 Comedy
11.30 Late News
11.45 Conan.

Both RTE 1 and UTVI will have Entertainment on 7-9pm in general, TV3 will have News and Current affairs

From 9-11 RTE1 and 10-11 on UTV there will be news and current affairs. At that stage TV3 will then have switched to entertainment.

However, I fully expect the following Schedule.

5.45 News
6.00 Xpose
6.30 TV3 Quiz
7.00 TV3 Doc on Travellers
8.00 Customs Patrol double Bill
9.00 Nightly Film
11.00 Vincent Browne. (and if they can get away with it, US import instead)

Thomas D

irishfeen wrote: »

TV3 might just be too far gone and in too much debt to survive but a complete change in approach is needed to have any chance - if I was running TV3 I would over a short period of time;

- Combine TV3/3e down to one single channel/schedule maybe with a change in name to start afresh.

- Launch TV3 HD as soon as possible to launch on all platforms.

- Negotiate with UTVI over leasing EPG slot 105 for say a 10 year period of time and ensure a constant supply of funding.

- For Champions League/Europa Lg coverage next season (in HD), end studio analysis and TV3 commentary and use international feed.

- Bring Vincent Browne forward to 10-11pm incorporated with a main evening news bulletin @10pm with Conan/another US talk show from 11-12pm and Family Guy and American Dad into the early hours of the morning.

- Expand the News & Current affairs department (not decimate it) with live updates on the hour every hour including the ability to break away from normal programming for major Breaking News events.

- Two new half hour news bulletins @ 12/7pm.

- Try and get Hollyoaks and Home & Away in particular along with the new TV3 soap to cover that audience.

- Concentrate efforts on prime time television (after 12/1pm)

- Get rid of Xpose at 6pm and reschedule it to before 3pm.

- Get rid of Judge Judy at 04.30pm to before 3pm.

- Use the BAI's Sound and Vision fund much more to make new Irish homegrown content.

- Look seriously into new co-productions with the BBC/ITV akin to what RTÉ does very regularly.

That's seriously impressive advice. You'd pay a consultant to hear a lot worse.

BuzzG

+1 very well thought out indeed.

Elmo

The problem of combining TV3/3e programming is that you actually dilute the numbers watching.

If you go back to 1998 when TV3 started their schedule was filled with US programming and a few UK imports from Channel 5 and the BBC.

TV3 grew from 3% to 7% by the time that Granada took a share in the company. The type of programming changed. But TV3 only saw a minor increase to 10% by 2004 it was at 14% and then it dropped back to 11% by 2013.

IMO in 2015 TV3 will see their audience fall back to 2001 levels if they decided on a similar most popular US content schedule. A channel like TV3 needs a variety of programming it can just have a strip schedule in Prime Time, other wise it becomes nothing more than another 3E.

TV3 isn't a youth channel, this is something that TV3 have failed to understand. Over the last 15 years they needed to work at increasing their mainstream audiences they didn't do this. The made a few in roads to producing some prime time programmes, but the best ones were largely paid for by the Licence Fee, while at the same time they increase their Daytime output, purely to be able to say that 50% of their content was Irish.

Prime Time goes from 6pm to 11pm. All Irish channels should focus on these hours. With a variety of new and repeatable programmes.

3e on the other hand is just simply a cheap TV channel that can earn some money, but if it continues the way it does its audience will move to other better services like E4.

Though it makes no sense to put RWC on 3E, unless you have clashing games.

irishfeen

Elmo wrote: »

The problem of combining TV3/3e programming is that you actually dilute the numbers watching.

If you go back to 1998 when TV3 started their schedule was filled with US programming and a few UK imports from Channel 5 and the BBC.

TV3 grew from 3% to 7% by the time that Granada took a share in the company. The type of programming changed. But TV3 only saw a minor increase to 10% by 2004 it was at 14% and then it dropped back to 11% by 2013.

IMO in 2015 TV3 will see their audience fall back to 2001 levels if they decided on a similar most popular US content schedule. A channel like TV3 needs a variety of programming it can just have a strip schedule in Prime Time, other wise it becomes nothing more than another 3E.

TV3 isn't a youth channel, this is something that TV3 have failed to understand. Over the last 15 years they needed to work at increasing their mainstream audiences they didn't do this. The made a few in roads to producing some prime time programmes, but the best ones were largely paid for by the Licence Fee, while at the same time they increase their Daytime output, purely to be able to say that 50% of their content was Irish.

Prime Time goes from 6pm to 11pm. All Irish channels should focus on these hours. With a variety of new and repeatable programmes.

3e on the other hand is just simply a cheap TV channel that can earn some money, but if it continues the way it does its audience will move to other better services like E4.

Though it makes no sense to put RWC on 3E, unless you have clashing games.

You see for me you are exactly explaining in one way why there is a need for 3e to be abolished - you call it a "cheap TV channel" ... is there any worse statement you could make of a PSB's second channel.

A cheap channel makes the entire brand cheap, looks bad for advertisers and in the long term does no good.. IMO they have the resources and content for one decent TV station (just about) - diluting the audience wouldn't be a factor because a strong primary station with a decent alternative schedule will increase audience not push them away.

irishfeen

Thomas D wrote: »

That's seriously impressive advice. You'd pay a consultant to hear a lot worse.

Thanks but seriously these are things are beyond simple both to think of and to implement ... Every thing I set out would improve the TV3 brand, for the bosses at TV3 to continue on their current path is to me beyond belief and will IMO lead to the closure of the station in the long run.

They need fresh thinkers and a complete change in attitude - firstly blaming RTÉ should be outlawed inside TV3 ... RTÉ are what TV3 needs to aim for - an institution in Irish broadcasting.

Onthe3rdDay

irishfeen wrote: »

They need fresh thinkers and a complete change in attitude - firstly blaming RTÉ should be outlawed inside TV3 ... RTÉ are what TV3 needs to aim for - an institution in Irish broadcasting.

I agree with some of your sheduling Ideas and I disagree with others, but you appear to put some thought into the process, something that TV3 doesn't appear to do. It's basically a blame game for them, everything and everyone else is wrong and they plus one or two of their apologists (Irish Times would be one) seem to be stuck in a constant cycle of blame.

It would be a financial mistake to close 3e. If they put a proper schedule on 3e they could easily spruce up the station and increase viewership. Every other broadcasting organization is setting up extra stations to defend their viewing figures. TV3 with just the one station would be very exposed.

Elmo

irishfeen wrote: »

You see for me you are exactly explaining in one way why there is a need for 3e to be abolished - you call it a "cheap TV channel" ... is there any worse statement you could make of a PSB's second channel.

You end up just giving that ad revenue to other companies outside the state like Sky.

Though I agree with what you saying. I would rather see much more focus by all channels on quality TV without the need to think that the need more channels to achieve some kind of choice.

Mr Pseudonym

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

It would be a financial mistake to close 3e. If they put a proper schedule on 3e they could easily spruce up the station and increase viewership. Every other broadcasting organization is setting up extra stations to defend their viewing figures. TV3 with just the one station would be very exposed.

Elmo wrote: »

You end up just giving that ad revenue to other companies outside the state like Sky.

I agree with the above. 3e plays a lot of repeats and cheap imports. Also, a lot of the US stuff they buy comes in packages: quality packaged with less popular content - 3e allows them to keep the dodgy stuff off their main schedule. So, it's a cheap channel that allows them to get maximum value out of their content, while picking up low-level ad revenue.

That is obviously to say nothing of the effect on "the brand". But, there is financial sense to retaining 3e.