Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

silverbolt · 01-04-2014 10:26AM

Piliger wrote: »

Wow ... I think that that post may win some kind of shocking award, out of all of the posts made on it since it's inception.

I'm not going to say what award ... I think I'll leave it to others to do that.

Darwin maybe?

jimeryan22 · 01-04-2014 08:08PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

:pac:

Congratulations Jumboman, you just won the thread. That image sure does reflect the views of "most people in Ireland."

I'm actually in stitches laughing.

Are any of the four of them even old enough to vote...?... Lol
I find all this death penalty talk pretty sick from most of the "for" brigade..
I personally could MAYBE consider it for ONLY particular cases of savage murder/s where it was proven beyond doubt in a court of law... But then the heart says nope.. One should only ever kill to protect ones life
My opinion of course...

on the river · 01-04-2014 08:14PM

jimeryan22 wrote: »

Are any of the four of them even old enough to vote...?... Lol
I find all this death penalty talk pretty sick from most of the "for" brigade..
I personally could MAYBE consider it for ONLY particular cases of savage murder/s where it was proven beyond doubt in a court of law... But then the heart says nope.. One should only ever kill to protect ones life
My opinion of course...

i agree if enough evidence is gained then the death should be enforced.

if a person agressively attacks you have a duty to your self to defend and attack your attacker.

Jumboman · 05-04-2014 09:50PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Which is why I specifically added "threat to life" - Zimmerman genuinly thought he was being attacked with intent to kill. Or so he claimed. But had he not had that defence, he would have been convicted.

Again - no jurisdiction will give you carte blanche to murder who you want as an act of revenge.

Heres what I'm talking about a sex abuse victim fights back against his abuser and he gets convicted of the manslaughter.

The guy should of been given a medal. Its political correctness gone mad.

We should not jail the victims of sex abuse. If Mr McGovern had of done what he did in America he probably would of been cleared of any wrong doing.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1015/341720-brendan-mcgovern-court/

end of the road · 05-04-2014 10:02PM

Jumboman wrote: »

Heres what I'm talking about a sex abuse victim fights back against his abuser and he gets convicted of the manslaughter.

good, he wasn't abusing him when he killed him so theirs no self defence ground here, so he didn't infact fight back at all, it was a revenge killing and he was rightly punished, you have to have standards and rules in society.

Jumboman wrote: »

The guy should of been given a medal.

no, you have to have standards and rules in society.

Jumboman wrote: »

Its political correctness gone mad.

grow the f//k up, its nothing to do with political correctness, this teenager broke the law and was jailed, good, i've sympathy for the abuse he suffered but he deserved what he got for killing that man.

Jumboman wrote: »

We should not jail the victims of sex abuse.

if they break the law, then we should

Jumboman wrote: »

If Mr McGovern had of done what he did in America he probably would of been cleared of any wrong doing.

yeah, and thats the problem, because if it was in america all one needs is a sympathetic jury to believe a story and one gets off, lets say one hadn't been abused but said they had been in a court as a defence for killing someone for no reason, and the jury believed that they had, that would mean someone effectively getting off killing via telling a lie, so yeah, that is the problem in america, i'd rather have people go to jail for manslaughter then live in the likes of america and have such a ridiculous system.

Jumboman · 05-04-2014 10:02PM

Billy86 wrote: »

So what you are saying is we should be allowed to shoot 14 year olds in their own neighbourhoods for wearing a hoodie and eating Skittles, got it. ****ing darkies.

A history of Zimmerman ere... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/18/list-george-zimmerman-past-run-ins-with-law/

By your standards, Zimmerman deserves to be killed.

He was 17 not 14. Trayvon Martin was a thug. What would you do if a 17 year old 6ft "kid" started pounding your head into the footpath while your lying on the ground ?

Anybody with any common sense could see that Mr Zimmerman was defending himself.

This case would never have even got to court if Trayvon Martin was white.

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end of the road · 05-04-2014 10:08PM

Jumboman wrote: »

He was 17 not 14.

doesn't matter, he was still a teenager, zimmerman deliberately provoked him so he could shoot him.

Jumboman wrote: »

Trayvon Martin was a thug.

so is zimmerman, he's extremely far from "innocent"

Jumboman wrote: »

What would you do if a 17 year old 6ft "kid" started pounding your head into the footpath while your lying on the ground ?

i certainly wouldn't be shooting him like vermin zimmerman did.

Jumboman wrote: »

Anybody with any common sense could see that Mr Zimmerman was defending himself.

no he wasn't, he told a sob story and was believed.

Jumboman wrote: »

This case would never have even got to court if Trayvon Martin was white.

exactly, his family and other black americans forced the investigation and charging of zimmerman and fair play to them

Jumboman · 05-04-2014 10:16PM

end of the road wrote: »

good, he wasn't abusing him when he killed him so theirs no self defence ground here, so he didn't infact fight back at all,

His abuser was laughing at him and was mocking him. So he did fight back

it was a revenge killing and he was rightly punished,

He just snapped anyone would of done the same.

you have to have standards and rules in society.

The standards are you dont abuse kids and if you then you deserve everything you get.

grow the f//k up, its nothing to do with political correctness, this teenager broke the law and was jailed, good, i've sympathy for the abuse he suffered but he deserved what he got for killing that man.

It is political correctness when you jail an abuse victim for fighting back.

if they break the law, then we should

yeah, and thats the problem, because if it was in america all one needs is a sympathetic jury to believe a story and one gets off, lets say one hadn't been abused but said they had been in a court as a defence for killing someone for no reason, and the jury believed that they had, that would mean someone effectively getting off killing via telling a lie, so yeah, that is the problem in america, i'd rather have people go to jail for manslaughter then live in the likes of america and have such a ridiculous system.

The scumbag he killed was already convicted of sex abuse and his own family wanted nothing to do with him. McGovern done us all a favour.

Jumboman · 05-04-2014 10:21PM

end of the road wrote: »

doesn't matter, he was still a teenager, zimmerman deliberately provoked him so he could shoot him.

How did he provoke him ?

so is zimmerman, he's extremely far from "innocent"

He was in this case.

i certainly wouldn't be shooting him like vermin zimmerman did.

Then you would of ended of being killed.

no he wasn't, he told a sob story and was believed.

So anytime somebody is cleared in court of murder its because of a sob story ?

exactly, his family and other black americans forced the investigation and charging of zimmerman and fair play to them

So its one law for black people and another for white people ?

end of the road · 05-04-2014 10:34PM

Jumboman wrote: »

His abuser was laughing at him and was mocking him. So he did fight back

He just snapped anyone would of done the same.

The standards are you dont abuse kids and if you then you deserve everything you get.

It is political correctness when you jail an abuse victim for fighting back.

The scumbag he killed was already convicted of sex abuse and his own family wanted nothing to do with him. McGovern done us all a favour.

he didn't fight back, he snapped and killed a man all right, and now he's where he belongs with all the other common crooks and criminals

end of the road · 05-04-2014 10:36PM

Jumboman wrote: »

How did he provoke him ?

He was in this case.

Then you would of ended of being killed.

So anytime somebody is cleared in court of murder its because of a sob story ?

So its one law for black people and another for white people ?

zimmerman and innocent will never go together, he's a nasty vicious piece of work who hopefully one day will be locked away from society, and i can get people off me without having to shoot or stab them thanks

Jumboman · 05-04-2014 10:47PM

end of the road wrote: »

he didn't fight back, he snapped and killed a man all right, and now he's where he belongs with all the other common crooks and criminals

He should have been given a medal for his public service. One less child rapist off the streets means less victims.

Jumboman · 05-04-2014 10:49PM

end of the road wrote: »

zimmerman and innocent will never go together, he's a nasty vicious piece of work who hopefully one day will be locked away from society, and i can get people off me without having to shoot or stab them thanks

How would you get someone off you whos a lot bigger than you are and is pounding your head against the ground ? Its a miracle Mr Zimmerman was not killed.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-04-2014 06:04PM

Jumboman wrote: »

Heres what I'm talking about a sex abuse victim fights back against his abuser and he gets convicted of the manslaughter.

The guy should of been given a medal. Its political correctness gone mad.

We should not jail the victims of sex abuse. If Mr McGovern had of done what he did in America he probably would of been cleared of any wrong doing.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1015/341720-brendan-mcgovern-court/

I know exactly what you're talkign about. The problem is that YOU don't know what you're talking about and you have no idea what my stance is because you don't read anything I write. I don't even know why you keep quoting my posts.

Jumboman · 06-04-2014 09:28PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I know exactly what you're talkign about. The problem is that YOU don't know what you're talking about and you have no idea what my stance is because you don't read anything I write. I don't even know why you keep quoting my posts.

Whats your stance on Mr McGovern should he have been jailed ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-04-2014 07:14AM

Jumboman wrote: »

Whats your stance on Mr McGovern should he have been jailed ?

I made my point, you never presented any contra-argument.

Again - why am I being quoted? You are either unable to argue the points i make or have no interest on doing so.

on the river · 07-04-2014 08:52AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I made my point, you never presented any contra-argument.

Again - why am I being quoted? You are either unable to argue the points i make or have no interest in doing so.

I did on several occasions without any valid counter. It seems your so consumed with my argument you fail to provide your own.

BarryBrack1 · 07-04-2014 09:03AM

looking_around wrote: »

It's been proven that even short term solitary will make people insane, meaning which, they no longer feel the "loss". They just become totally crazy/insensible. Not really the way to go with things either.

Solitary is cruel and unusual punishment. It's terrible. Death is barbaric.

Can we just not make our mandatory life sentences have a minimum of 20 years in this country? Makes me sick the likes of o'reilly could be out in bout ten years after the cold way he liked his wife.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-04-2014 09:52AM

on the river wrote: »

I did on several occasions without any valid counter. It seems your so consumed with my argument you fail to provide your own.

You've posted twice since I made the point. Neither post quoted my post and one of them was in responce to someone else, so either you don't know the meaning of "several times" are you have even less of an idea of the point I made than Jumboman does.

There's one of two things here: either you're both quoting random posts or it's because I'm just the only idiot who responds. One way or the other, neither of you has any idea what my objections are and until you do there's no point in argueing with me.

Can you PM me when you post something by way of a specific rebuttal to a specific argument in relation to the death pemalty I made?

Mal-Adjusted · 07-04-2014 09:57AM

BarryBrack1 wrote: »

Can we just not make our mandatory life sentences have a minimum of 20 years in this country? Makes me sick the likes of o'reilly could be out in bout ten years after the cold way he liked his wife.

In fairness, life should be life in my opinion. With only the possibility of parole after x number of years.

--LOS-- · 07-04-2014 10:07AM

No, I don't believe in the killing of any animals, human or not, so I don't think I need to go into it any more. Some people would consider that extreme, for me killing is extreme! death penalty is not the answer.

on the river · 07-04-2014 10:08AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You've posted twice since I made the point. Neither post quoted my post and one of them was in responce to someone else, so either you don't know the meaning of "several times" are you have even less of an idea of the point I made than Jumboman does.

There's one of two things here: either you're both quoting random posts or it's because I'm just the only idiot who responds. One way or the other, neither of you has any idea what my objections are and until you do there's no point in argueing with me.

Can you PM me when you post something by way of a specific rebuttal to a specific argument in relation to the death pemalty I made?

Backtracking again i see. Again you put the emphasis on me without any reference to your own posts. Looking back though yor posts you continously expose other posters without providing your own opinion. PM me when you provide a decent argument .

Mr Williams · 07-04-2014 02:30PM

This sex beast murderer has now been unleashed into the community.

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/with-wife-who-denies-she-s-taking-him-back

Would anyone want to live beside him ?

The human rights brigade who defend these animals should be made to live beside them.

Mal-Adjusted · 07-04-2014 03:37PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

The human rights brigade who defend these animals should be made to live beside them.

Who is this "human rights brigade"? Who is defending him?

Holsten · 07-04-2014 06:17PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

This sex beast murderer has now been unleashed into the community.

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/with-wife-who-denies-she-s-taking-him-back

Would anyone want to live beside him ?

The human rights brigade who defend these animals should be made to live beside them.

Hahaha do you write for rags such as this?

Your words are so sensationalist.

I honestly wouldn't give a toss if he lived beside me.

Mr Williams · 10-04-2014 01:14AM

Holsten wrote: »

Hahaha do you write for rags such as this?

Your words are so sensationalist.

I honestly wouldn't give a toss if he lived beside me.

How is it sensationalist ? I'm just telling it like it is.

Mr Williams · 11-04-2014 11:58PM

This case highlights why we need the death penalty.

A serial sex beast who was convicted of rape on 4 separate occasions is now prowling the streets of dublin.

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/sex-beast-returns-to-old-hunting-ground

‘’The female population of the country has to be protected from him,” said Judge Frank O’Donnell.

Why are we keeping this animal alive ? he should be put down.

Jumboman · 13-04-2014 01:19AM

Mr Williams wrote: »

This case highlights why we need the death penalty.

A serial sex beast who was convicted of rape on 4 separate occasions is now prowling the streets of dublin.

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/sex-beast-returns-to-old-hunting-ground

Why are we keeping this animal alive ? he should be put down.

Its only a matter of time before he rapes again.

Whats crazy about Ireland is that if somebody was to shoot him in order to protect the public they would end up in court thats how politically correct the country is.

Artful_Badger · 13-04-2014 01:23AM

Jumboman wrote: »

Its only a matter of time before he rapes again.

Whats crazy about Ireland is that if somebody was to shoot him in order to product the public they would end up in court thats how politically correct the country is.

In court for murdering someone ? Political correctness gone mad it is !

Jumboman · 13-04-2014 01:26AM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Political correctness gone mad it is !

Your right it is. We let these rapists run around the place without a care in the world.

Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

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