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Hattat tractors

  • 06-04-2014 06:59PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭


    I`m in the market for a new Tractor, what do yee make of them hattat tractors lads, they seem really good value. I cant find another new 100Hp tractor within 20k of the price. €36,000 new :eek:
    The few dealers Ive seen all accept trade ins, Whats the catch i wonder?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭vcshqkf9rpzgoe


    Check out Tumosan tractors


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    Perkins engine in them, might not be too bad of a job. After looking at the Hattat website they seem to be pairing themselves with Valtra?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭exercise


    Depends on what your doing, would last for years at just basic farm work, like any other good tractor,
    Start mowing silage, baling, ploughing, drawing silage, mixing slurry, these jobs wear a good tractor down, but keep it maintained, should be alright,
    I no someone has one of these tractors, he is very pleased with it, looks good as-well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Have a look at Farmtrac.
    Made in Poland...... I think! Grand yokes, shocking simple!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Have a look at Farmtrac.
    Made in Poland...... I think! Grand yokes, shocking simple!

    A mate of the fathers has one a few years now , I couldnt fault it really . Now it has never got any hard work at all but its never serviced or minded either and nothing major has gone in it yet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Yep. There's one here in work. Grand yoke. No cab.
    Tis used for all the planting work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Do all them low cost tractors come with just a basic manual gearbox? I'm looking for a cheap tractor, but it needs a proper f/r shuttle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Do all them low cost tractors come with just a basic manual gearbox? I'm looking for a cheap tractor, but it needs a proper f/r shuttle.

    The farmtrac I was driving had a basic manual gearbox with a manual shuttle on the dash , I found the shuttle a bit stiff but maybe that would loosen out with time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I know a landini 5H was going for around 40k with a new Ross more loader


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I know a landini 5H was going for around 40k with a new Ross more loader

    40k? I priced one for 51


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    40k? I priced one for 51

    Was it the 5H or the power mondial

    It was a deal they were doing when they first came out 2 years ago. It was better value than any other machine out there and a lot of 5H were moved due to it. The deal must not still be on if you got priced that much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    If you were only doing handy work why would you need a new tractor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    If you were only doing handy work why would you need a new tractor?

    Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

    Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

    Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it

    You called!!!!! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭mf240


    Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

    Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it

    But there sooo shiny!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    If you were only doing handy work why would you need a new tractor?

    I wouldn't buy a new one myself but I suppose some people like a newer yoke that should be trouble free for a good few years and give them a bit more comfort to operate in . Which to me is a fair enough reason if they have the dust to buy it with .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    moy83 wrote: »
    I wouldn't buy a new one myself but I suppose some people like a newer yoke that should be trouble free for a good few years and give them a bit more comfort to operate in . Which to me is a fair enough reason if they have the dust to buy it with .
    Until the electronics start to give trouble nothing like a lever to turn on the pto :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭GrandSoftDay


    moy83 wrote: »
    I wouldn't buy a new one myself but I suppose some people like a newer yoke that should be trouble free for a good few years and give them a bit more comfort to operate in . Which to me is a fair enough reason if they have the dust to buy it with .

    I'd prefer a good second hand tractor from more proven lineage for the same money myself with a bit more of a spec on it. Wouldn't like to be trying to trade one down the road either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Until the electronics start to give trouble nothing like a lever to turn on the pto :)

    Ill probably never change the tractor unless she dies but one thing I would like to treat myself to would be a push button PTO . I would feel like a king if I had one of those in the cab !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    I'd prefer a good second hand tractor from more proven lineage for the same money myself with a bit more of a spec on it. Wouldn't like to be trying to trade one down the road either.

    Same as that . But I suppose anyone buying one of the cheaper models will know this when buying and will probably be expecting to drive her into the ground before selling


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    40k? I priced one for 51

    48 for the basic spec one, no ac, narrower tires etc. If it was 40k I'd have snapped up one a yr ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

    Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it

    If you have 25 acres, make 100 bales a year, have a transport box and a bale lifter, then you couldn't be without a 100 HP 4wd with a loader. You can buy machinery to suit it after. If you're pushing up towards 50 acres and 200 bales per year then you ought to be considering a new 150 HP machine as well as a teleporter for feeding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Oh no! I have no food with me to give the troll his breakfast :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Oh no! I have no food with me to give the troll his breakfast :rolleyes:

    Tut tut


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    The Cuban wrote: »
    I`m in the market for a new Tractor, what do yee make of them hattat tractors lads, they seem really good value. I cant find another new 100Hp tractor within 20k of the price. €36,000 new :eek:
    The few dealers Ive seen all accept trade ins, Whats the catch i wonder?

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    Seeing as I don't know anything about you, i'm not going to come on here and tell you that you can't afford a tractor!

    The one thing that I do know is that when you look at value, you normally cannot only consider the purchase price - you also need to consider the depreciation and the trade in value. Tractors like these come along every few years and they are very tempting to some people. I know a lad that bought a Farmer tractor - traded it after 7 years with 2500 hours on it and it had devalued by 70%. In fact, the Farmer dealer that he bought it from would not take it as a trade because he said that he had no sale for second hand tractors.

    Perkins engines are the only good selling point about them - but don't forget to look at other tractors that have a perkins too. The perkins rarely gives bother but every other part seems to. Every month there is a thread here about landini's and their electrical problems. Ursus have perkins engines too. I don't see people flocking to buy them.

    If I was sinking that kind of money into a tractor, I'd prefer to put it into something that has known reliability, that has a good resale value and most importantly, something that I fairly confident I will still be able to get parts for in years to come.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    reilig wrote: »
    Seeing as I don't know anything about you, i'm not going to come on here and tell you that you can't afford a tractor!

    The one thing that I do know is that when you look at value, you normally cannot only consider the purchase price - you also need to consider the depreciation and the trade in value. Tractors like these come along every few years and they are very tempting to some people. I know a lad that bought a Farmer tractor - traded it after 7 years with 2500 hours on it and it had devalued by 70%. In fact, the Farmer dealer that he bought it from would not take it as a trade because he said that he had no sale for second hand tractors.

    Perkins engines are the only good selling point about them - but don't forget to look at other tractors that have a perkins too. The perkins rarely gives bother but every other part seems to. Every month there is a thread here about landini's and their electrical problems. Ursus have perkins engines too. I don't see people flocking to buy them.

    If I was sinking that kind of money into a tractor, I'd prefer to put it into something that has known reliability, that has a good resale value and most importantly, something that I fairly confident I will still be able to get parts for in years to come.

    Very true. You get what you pay for.
    We've had 2 landini's here and there a great tractor for the money you pay but there cheaper for a reason. The quality isn't there.
    As it is now I have to get under my landini and press the solenoids to use the lifts
    Its bloody dangerous to say the least.

    OP I'd try my best to get a decent second hand tbh.
    We have looked for second hand here but anything that is around has highish hours normally 5k.
    And I don't really want to leave Leinster looking g at tractors because if I've a problem I either have to wait for a mechanic or drive an hour or two


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    reilig wrote: »
    Seeing as I don't know anything about you, i'm not going to come on here and tell you that you can't afford a tractor!

    The one thing that I do know is that when you look at value, you normally cannot only consider the purchase price - you also need to consider the depreciation and the trade in value. Tractors like these come along every few years and they are very tempting to some people. I know a lad that bought a Farmer tractor - traded it after 7 years with 2500 hours on it and it had devalued by 70%. In fact, the Farmer dealer that he bought it from would not take it as a trade because he said that he had no sale for second hand tractors.

    Perkins engines are the only good selling point about them - but don't forget to look at other tractors that have a perkins too. The perkins rarely gives bother but every other part seems to. Every month there is a thread here about landini's and their electrical problems. Ursus have perkins engines too. I don't see people flocking to buy them.

    If I was sinking that kind of money into a tractor, I'd prefer to put it into something that has known reliability, that has a good resale value and most importantly, something that I fairly confident I will still be able to get parts for in years to come.
    I could do with a second tractor and was I was looking at one for 3.5k but I would rather spend it on something that will give a better return like dairy stock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I could do with a second tractor and was I was looking at one for 3.5k but I would rather spend it on something that will give a better return like dairy stock.

    Maybe the op is buying the tractor for to use it on something that will give a return on it.

    Who are we to tell him that he can't afford it - especially when he didn't come on here asking that specific question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭jfh


    Anyone actually get one of these? Have to admit I'm tempted, just don't know anyone with one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    jfh wrote: »
    Anyone actually get one of these? Have to admit I'm tempted, just don't know anyone with one

    There's a few around here. Auld farmers bought them. Seem to be doing ok


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