Hattat tractors

The Cuban

I`m in the market for a new Tractor, what do yee make of them hattat tractors lads, they seem really good value. I cant find another new 100Hp tractor within 20k of the price. €36,000 new :eek:
The few dealers Ive seen all accept trade ins, Whats the catch i wonder?

vcshqkf9rpzgoe

Check out Tumosan tractors

131spanner

Perkins engine in them, might not be too bad of a job. After looking at the Hattat website they seem to be pairing themselves with Valtra?

exercise

Depends on what your doing, would last for years at just basic farm work, like any other good tractor,
Start mowing silage, baling, ploughing, drawing silage, mixing slurry, these jobs wear a good tractor down, but keep it maintained, should be alright,
I no someone has one of these tractors, he is very pleased with it, looks good as-well.

MickeyShtyles

Have a look at Farmtrac.
Made in Poland...... I think! Grand yokes, shocking simple!

moy83

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Have a look at Farmtrac.
Made in Poland...... I think! Grand yokes, shocking simple!

A mate of the fathers has one a few years now , I couldnt fault it really . Now it has never got any hard work at all but its never serviced or minded either and nothing major has gone in it yet

MickeyShtyles

Yep. There's one here in work. Grand yoke. No cab.
Tis used for all the planting work!

Timmaay

Do all them low cost tractors come with just a basic manual gearbox? I'm looking for a cheap tractor, but it needs a proper f/r shuttle.

moy83

Timmaay wrote: »

Do all them low cost tractors come with just a basic manual gearbox? I'm looking for a cheap tractor, but it needs a proper f/r shuttle.

The farmtrac I was driving had a basic manual gearbox with a manual shuttle on the dash , I found the shuttle a bit stiff but maybe that would loosen out with time

Reggie.

I know a landini 5H was going for around 40k with a new Ross more loader

Greengrass1

Reggie. wrote: »

I know a landini 5H was going for around 40k with a new Ross more loader

40k? I priced one for 51

Reggie.

Greengrass1 wrote: »

40k? I priced one for 51

Was it the 5H or the power mondial

It was a deal they were doing when they first came out 2 years ago. It was better value than any other machine out there and a lot of 5H were moved due to it. The deal must not still be on if you got priced that much

Sam Kade

If you were only doing handy work why would you need a new tractor?

Farmer Pudsey

Sam Kade wrote: »

If you were only doing handy work why would you need a new tractor?

Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it

Reggie.

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it

You called!!!!! :cool:

mf240

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it

But there sooo shiny!!!

moy83

Sam Kade wrote: »

If you were only doing handy work why would you need a new tractor?

I wouldn't buy a new one myself but I suppose some people like a newer yoke that should be trouble free for a good few years and give them a bit more comfort to operate in . Which to me is a fair enough reason if they have the dust to buy it with .

Sam Kade

moy83 wrote: »

I wouldn't buy a new one myself but I suppose some people like a newer yoke that should be trouble free for a good few years and give them a bit more comfort to operate in . Which to me is a fair enough reason if they have the dust to buy it with .

Until the electronics start to give trouble nothing like a lever to turn on the pto

GrandSoftDay

moy83 wrote: »

I wouldn't buy a new one myself but I suppose some people like a newer yoke that should be trouble free for a good few years and give them a bit more comfort to operate in . Which to me is a fair enough reason if they have the dust to buy it with .

I'd prefer a good second hand tractor from more proven lineage for the same money myself with a bit more of a spec on it. Wouldn't like to be trying to trade one down the road either.

moy83

Sam Kade wrote: »

Until the electronics start to give trouble nothing like a lever to turn on the pto

Ill probably never change the tractor unless she dies but one thing I would like to treat myself to would be a push button PTO . I would feel like a king if I had one of those in the cab !

moy83

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

I'd prefer a good second hand tractor from more proven lineage for the same money myself with a bit more of a spec on it. Wouldn't like to be trying to trade one down the road either.

Same as that . But I suppose anyone buying one of the cheaper models will know this when buying and will probably be expecting to drive her into the ground before selling

Timmaay

Greengrass1 wrote: »

40k? I priced one for 51

48 for the basic spec one, no ac, narrower tires etc. If it was 40k I'd have snapped up one a yr ago.

reilig

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Shh do not go there Sam you will get your head eaten off by the tractor jockeys and the machinery addicts. Been there done that have questioned the finances etc. They will be on in a while.

Ps I am a Luddite as well. There are one or two more around but the addicts get very antagnoist about it

If you have 25 acres, make 100 bales a year, have a transport box and a bale lifter, then you couldn't be without a 100 HP 4wd with a loader. You can buy machinery to suit it after. If you're pushing up towards 50 acres and 200 bales per year then you ought to be considering a new 150 HP machine as well as a teleporter for feeding.

bogman_bass

Oh no! I have no food with me to give the troll his breakfast :rolleyes:

Reggie.

bogman_bass wrote: »

Oh no! I have no food with me to give the troll his breakfast :rolleyes:

Tut tut

reilig

The Cuban wrote: »

I`m in the market for a new Tractor, what do yee make of them hattat tractors lads, they seem really good value. I cant find another new 100Hp tractor within 20k of the price. €36,000 new :eek:
The few dealers Ive seen all accept trade ins, Whats the catch i wonder?

Seeing as I don't know anything about you, i'm not going to come on here and tell you that you can't afford a tractor!

The one thing that I do know is that when you look at value, you normally cannot only consider the purchase price - you also need to consider the depreciation and the trade in value. Tractors like these come along every few years and they are very tempting to some people. I know a lad that bought a Farmer tractor - traded it after 7 years with 2500 hours on it and it had devalued by 70%. In fact, the Farmer dealer that he bought it from would not take it as a trade because he said that he had no sale for second hand tractors.

Perkins engines are the only good selling point about them - but don't forget to look at other tractors that have a perkins too. The perkins rarely gives bother but every other part seems to. Every month there is a thread here about landini's and their electrical problems. Ursus have perkins engines too. I don't see people flocking to buy them.

If I was sinking that kind of money into a tractor, I'd prefer to put it into something that has known reliability, that has a good resale value and most importantly, something that I fairly confident I will still be able to get parts for in years to come.

Greengrass1

reilig wrote: »

Seeing as I don't know anything about you, i'm not going to come on here and tell you that you can't afford a tractor!

The one thing that I do know is that when you look at value, you normally cannot only consider the purchase price - you also need to consider the depreciation and the trade in value. Tractors like these come along every few years and they are very tempting to some people. I know a lad that bought a Farmer tractor - traded it after 7 years with 2500 hours on it and it had devalued by 70%. In fact, the Farmer dealer that he bought it from would not take it as a trade because he said that he had no sale for second hand tractors.

Perkins engines are the only good selling point about them - but don't forget to look at other tractors that have a perkins too. The perkins rarely gives bother but every other part seems to. Every month there is a thread here about landini's and their electrical problems. Ursus have perkins engines too. I don't see people flocking to buy them.

If I was sinking that kind of money into a tractor, I'd prefer to put it into something that has known reliability, that has a good resale value and most importantly, something that I fairly confident I will still be able to get parts for in years to come.

Very true. You get what you pay for.
We've had 2 landini's here and there a great tractor for the money you pay but there cheaper for a reason. The quality isn't there.
As it is now I have to get under my landini and press the solenoids to use the lifts
Its bloody dangerous to say the least.

OP I'd try my best to get a decent second hand tbh.
We have looked for second hand here but anything that is around has highish hours normally 5k.
And I don't really want to leave Leinster looking g at tractors because if I've a problem I either have to wait for a mechanic or drive an hour or two

Sam Kade

reilig wrote: »

Seeing as I don't know anything about you, i'm not going to come on here and tell you that you can't afford a tractor!

The one thing that I do know is that when you look at value, you normally cannot only consider the purchase price - you also need to consider the depreciation and the trade in value. Tractors like these come along every few years and they are very tempting to some people. I know a lad that bought a Farmer tractor - traded it after 7 years with 2500 hours on it and it had devalued by 70%. In fact, the Farmer dealer that he bought it from would not take it as a trade because he said that he had no sale for second hand tractors.

Perkins engines are the only good selling point about them - but don't forget to look at other tractors that have a perkins too. The perkins rarely gives bother but every other part seems to. Every month there is a thread here about landini's and their electrical problems. Ursus have perkins engines too. I don't see people flocking to buy them.

If I was sinking that kind of money into a tractor, I'd prefer to put it into something that has known reliability, that has a good resale value and most importantly, something that I fairly confident I will still be able to get parts for in years to come.

I could do with a second tractor and was I was looking at one for 3.5k but I would rather spend it on something that will give a better return like dairy stock.

reilig

Sam Kade wrote: »

I could do with a second tractor and was I was looking at one for 3.5k but I would rather spend it on something that will give a better return like dairy stock.

Maybe the op is buying the tractor for to use it on something that will give a return on it.

Who are we to tell him that he can't afford it - especially when he didn't come on here asking that specific question?

jfh

Anyone actually get one of these? Have to admit I'm tempted, just don't know anyone with one

Reggie.

jfh wrote: »

Anyone actually get one of these? Have to admit I'm tempted, just don't know anyone with one

There's a few around here. Auld farmers bought them. Seem to be doing ok

_Brian

I could see them being grand on low intensity beef farms, spreading fert, topping, rolling, messing about feeding and the like.

Going into an intensive farm where they are running hard equipment and busy daily use, it would be interesting to see how they perform.

twin_beacon

most of those brands Hattat/Tumosan/Farmtrac/Armatrac were bought mainly by farmers that use contractors for slurry and silage. No tractor should have problems with spreading fert, rolling, topping, powering a drum mower, hay bob, single bale carrier, basic loader work, transport box and bringing a few loads of turf.

I don't think many of those brands were ever coupled to a conditioner mower, double bale carrier, agitator or tank. It would be interesting to see how they would compare to the household name brands after 5k hours of heavier farm work.



I seen a 03 reg tumosan with a loader on done deal last year for around 15k, think it had around 3.5k hours. That was was older "fiat" model, with the gear stick in the middle, advertised as being similar to the fiat 80-90. Probably cost around 34-35k new with the loader. Right now, there is a 95 reg 80-90 with loader and over 4k hours advertised at 22k.

_Brian

twin_beacon wrote: »

most of those brands Hattat/Tumosan/Farmtrac/Armatrac were bought mainly by farmers that use contractors for slurry and silage. No tractor should have problems with spreading fert, rolling, topping, powering a drum mower, hay bob, single bale carrier, basic loader work, transport box and bringing a few loads of turf.

I don't think many of those brands were ever coupled to a conditioner mower, double bale carrier, agitator or tank. It would be interesting to see how they would compare to the household name brands after 5k hours of heavier farm work.



I seen a 03 reg tumosan with a loader on done deal last year for around 15k, think it had around 3.5k hours. That was was older "fiat" model, with the gear stick in the middle, advertised as being similar to the fiat 80-90. Probably cost around 34-35k new with the loader. Right now, there is a 95 reg 80-90 with loader and over 4k hours advertised at 22k.

I’m fairness lads have an odd hard on about those fiats and pay heavy money for them, like MF390’s

twin_beacon

_Brian wrote: »

I’m fairness lads have an odd hard on about those fiats and pay heavy money for them, like MF390’s

Totally agree, but they are keeping the second hand value of those machines very high.

TooOldBoots

Jezz those 390s are still making serious money. I was looking at a 1996 390, very clean, good tyres etc but had a horrible cab, the gearing was odd and the dealer wanted 16k :eek:

satstheway

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Jezz those 390s are still making serious money. I was looking at a 1996 390, very clean, good tyres etc but had a horrible cab, the gearing was odd and the dealer wanted 16k :eek:

Cheap for a 96

older by the day

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Jezz those 390s are still making serious money. I was looking at a 1996 390, very clean, good tyres etc but had a horrible cab, the gearing was odd and the dealer wanted 16k :eek:

Good secound hand tractors are scarce, not enough new ones sold every year. probably get better value going for bigger go than d 100hp. Everyone wants a stock tractor. I love the old mf and Ford's. If they don't start you can find out why. The new ones make me sweat if I hear anything out of the ordinary. I know this is very cheeky but my 18.4r38 tyres are flecked on my mf6270, got two free tyres in good Nick, they are 520, 85, r38. They fit the rim but would they any harm to 4wd

triggerharvey

any opinions on the new Holland t5 105

stendfor

T5 good tractor but its
a diesel addict 😂

_Brian

Talking to a lad who bought his Hattat new 4 years ago, small beef farm. Has 800 hours on it and loves it, never a bother with it.