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Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
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An interesting post from the A&A forum, probably be deleted from there.
1. I'll address these in turn. Anwar is not just someone, hes quite a divisive force for Malaysians. Not that I like the bunch of crooks in charge, I just don't trust ideologues and demagogues. Heck, noone believes hes gay now anyway. Though he was allegedly when he was younger when studied at MCKK Boarding School (*Malay College Kuala Kangsar). The gay charge is just something he'll be acquitted of later on. Its just to inconvenience the opposition who are really just a nice soft sounding version of the mob in charge, who will end up the same as Barisan in time.
2. There is a lot of speculation in Malaysia regarding MH370, but the most common theory now going around is that its a drone hijacking done by US military because of what was on board. Two loud sonic booms were heard at Marang, Terranganu state at 1.45am Malaysian time that night.
3. This coincides with the time of the 'turnaround'. It was then flown to 45,000 feet which incapacitated passengers and crew. It would take 15-20 minutes for them to suffocate.
4. At 6.15am a low flying plan was seen going over the Maldives. This incidentally coincides with the distance MH370 could fly from the South China Sea from its last known position.
5. It is not known where it went after that, but my money is on Diego Garcia.
6. Why? Defence equipment, documents were on board.
Who? The Americans.
Do the Malaysians know? No. But the Australians and British CERTAINLY DO.
Where are the passengers and crew? Dead. The Americans choose to
potentially save 2 Million or more lives by sacrificing 200.
7. For all Malaysia's supposed faults, noone really gives a damn whether you are gay or straight over there. Its painted out to be a lot stricter than it is, whereas everyone knows the flaws with the democratic system. The racial composition of society and the tendency of around 1/6th of the Muslims to have militantly racist and violent tendencies means that while ostensibly peaceful and stable, its a pressure cooker that needs to be controlled.
Everything you have in Ireland you can have in Malaysia at 1/2 the price, except alcohol which is expensive. The bars open until 3am and later. Anything, and I MEAN anything, legal and illegal, within reason, can be obtained in two phone calls and 30 minutes. Mind, certain items might be very expensive, alcohol, and certain drugs.
8. Was Malaysia incompetent? No. I've been through KLIA and other Malaysian Airports enough times to see their security procedures, and they don't take chances. They mght have flaws, but security is not one of them. Thats why it points toward it being a military inside job.
9. The final bit will be finding the black box. But it won't be real black box. It will be a fake, planted to fool officials, investigators and placate public opinion. When the news of this does come out, there will be no truth in the news and no news in the truth.
You Can’t Handle The Truth! Boeing’s Secret Patent
According to Boeing’s super secret development company Boeing Phantom Works and the Federal Government, you can not handle the truth! It refers to the Safety of Flight in ”Fly by Wire” (FBW) Aircraft. What is a Fly by Wire Aircraft you ask? Well simply put it is an aircraft that is flown by electronic signals rather than by cables or hydraulic systems
Someone discovered that there just may be a problem with this system of flight control. Boeing filed for a Patent to protect technology that they hope will keep any hijacking or jamming of the control systems in their 777 airliner protected. The Government immediately attached the Invention Secrecy Act to the Patent. It disappeared from the patent office online archives here.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/30/you-cant-handle-the-truth-boeings-secret-patent/
CNN also interviewed the co-pilot Tariq with Richard Quest. Nothing amazing about that, just thought I'd throw it into the barrel.
Or did Richard Quest (the real 007) send a malicious code into the aircraft's flight management system with his android device?;)
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Was just reading there and came across something I hadn't heard before:What puzzled me most since the “disappearance” of MH 370 is the deafeningMarch, 2014.
silence of the Military establishments of the United States, Thailand, Singapore
(and to a lesser extent those countries who are mere observers) who prior and
subsequent to the “disappearance” of MH 370 were involved up to their
eyeballs in the annual military exercises “Cobra Gold” and “Cope Tiger”
led by the United States beginning from 11th February and ending 21st
http://futurefastforward.com/images/stories/featurearticles/MH_370_Coincidence.pdf
U.S. Marines infiltrate the beach head as part of an amphibious demonstration at Hat Yao Beach, Kingdom of Thailand, during Cobra Gold 2014, Feb. 14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Gold#Cobra_Gold_2014
About
Cobra Gold is an annual Thai-U.S. co-sponsored joint and multinational exercise. Particpating nations include: Kingdom of Thailand, United States, Singapore, Japan, Indonesia, Republic of Korea and Malaysia.
https://www.facebook.com/ExerciseCobraGold
Cope Tiger begins in Thailand
Release Number: 010314
11th March 2014
3/11/2014 - KORAT ROYAL THAI AIR FORCE BASE, Thailand -- Aviation and ground units from the U.S. Air Force, the Royal Thai Air Force, Navy and Army, and the Republic of Singapore Air Force is participating in the Cope Tiger 2014 Field Training Exercise (FTX) in Thailand March 10-21.
CT14 is an annual, multilateral, aerial large force exercise conducted in the Asia-Pacific region. It takes place at Korat Royal Thai Air Force base in Thailand.
More than 760 personnel will participate in the exercise, including approximately 160 U.S. service members and 600 service members from Thailand and Singapore.
The FTX will involve a combined total of 76 aircraft and 42 air defense units, including 10 U.S. F-15C/D aircraft, and 15 F-16s, six JAS-39s, six F-5s, five ALPHA JETs, six L-39s, one C-130, one BELL 412, and one UH-1H from the Royal Thai Air Force. The Republic of Singapore Air Force will deploy eight F-16s, six F-15SGs, six F-5s, one G550, one KC-135, and two AS332 to the exercise.
The exercise enhances combined readiness and interoperability, reinforces the U.S. commitment to the Asia-Pacific region, and demonstrates U.S. capability to project combined and joint forces strategically in a multilateral environment.
http://www.pacaf.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123403175
A Royal Thai Air Force F-16 conducts tactical flight operations during last year's Cope Tiger at Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base, Thailand, March 12, 2013. Approximately 160 U.S. service members are participating in CT14 March 10-12, 2014, which offers an unparalleled opportunity to conduct a wide spectrum of large force employment air operations and strengthen military-to-military ties with two key partner nations, Thailand and Singapore. (U.S. Air Force photo/Capt. Joshua Gunderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdoUFDUh1vI
Gotta love the soundtrack of this one.."your gonna crash"....uploaded 14 Feb, as part of
Exercise Cobra Gold 2014..............featuring.......Malaysia as pig in the middle.
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With thanks to Dolanbaker over at after hours:
Whatever the cargo was on MH370, it appears it wasn't the stated mangoteen's.
Mangosteens
One angle of the probe has been to take a fine comb to the cargo that was on board MH370.A shipment of mangosteens drew particular public interest.
So much so that police, in a report on asiaone, clarified that the supplier of the cargo of mangosteens on board missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 was from one particular area, but the fruits were not actually from there.
The fruits were gathered from various orchards across the country, the report said, quoting Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar Khalid was asked to clarify the origins of the fruits after a report from a local daily which quoted a top agricultural official claimed that according to their records, no orchards in the state had produced the shipment that was allegedly part of the cargo on board MH370.
http://www.emirates247.com/news/mh370-mystery-pilot-call-who-why-what-2014-04-13-1.545328
Not only had the mangoteens not originated where they were supposed to have, but they were not in season either.Khalid’s response comes after the Federal Agricultural Marketing Authority (FAMA) asserted that mangosteens were not in season in Johor when the Boeing 777-200ER aircraft disappeared last month.
Past news reports quoted Khalid saying that the fruits were sourced from Muar and that the police are digging into every nitty-gritty detail of the cargo, including information on the workers who plucked the fruit and the individuals who were supposed to receive the mangosteens in China.
“I did not say the mangosteens were from Muar. I said that the supplier was from Muar and that we will investigate everything, including the extent of who plucked the fruits,” Khalid told reporters after launching a police function at the Buddhist Maha Vihara here.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/igp-kills-suspicion-over-mh370-mangosteens-says-fruits-not-from-muar
I don't know why Malaysian officials said there was mangoteens in the cargo, or what was there if not mangoteens.
I read about gold being in the cargo hold, a quote from another site:Another rumour doing the rounds is that there was 4.5 tonnes of gold bullion in the cargo hold.
http://www.politics.ie/forum/current-affairs/223104-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh-370-missing-71.html#post7818889
Maybe some of the Ukrainian gold stolen the day before somehow made it onto MH370?
Ukraine’s Gold Reserves Secretely Flown Out and Confiscated by the New York Federal Reserve?
According to Iskra News: At 2 a.m. this morning [March 7] an unmarked transport plane was on the runway at Borispol Airport (right) [east of Kiev]. According to airport staff, before the plane came to the airport, four trucks and two Volkswagen minibuses arrived, all the truck license plates missing.
http://nsnbc.me/2014/03/15/ukraines-gold-reserves-secretely-flown-confiscated-new-york-federal-reserve/
Ukraine Gold Reserves Reported To Be Hastily Aircrafted To U.S
http://www.metal.com/newscontent/58480_ukraine-gold-reserves-reported-to-be-hastily-aircrafted-to-u.s
While the issue of Ukrainian gold is a conspiracy in it's own right, I'm only speculating on whether or not there was any gold in the cargo.
An old (in this case) video from Fox misinformation contains a snippet of truth:
The US knows much more than its saying (7:13)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-OgllcZg8
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Yeah make a great movie alright and im not saying its not possible but (including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons, and packed it into 6 crates) loaded on to a civilian aircraft.
Then again could be a decoy.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/FactSheets/FS-013-DFRC.html#.U0xIn1ezHiQ
An example of what aircraft can carry in weight.
Weight: Basic weight, NASA 905, 318,053 lb;. NASA 911, 323,034 lb0 -
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http://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/FactSheets/FS-013-DFRC.html#.U0xIn1ezHiQ
An example of what aircraft can carry in weight.
Weight: Basic weight, NASA 905, 318,053 lb;. NASA 911, 323,034 lb
Worth noting the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft was empty on the inside. It also had a range of about 1000 miles compared to a usual range of 5000 - 6000 miles, and a maximum altitude of 15,000 feet.
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The MH370 investigation team now says the plane most likely landed.
The US won't share radar data from the JORN over the horizon radar situated in Australia, this radar is rumoured to be able to monitor as far as northern China.
Had the flight took the route to the southern Indian ocean off the coast of Australia it would have been picked up so I think the search that has been going on is theatre on a big scale.
MH370 Did Not Crash? Investigation Team Now Says Plane Possibly Landed Somewhere Else Instead of Ending in Ocean.
Now the investigating officials have said that they might ultimately give up looking at the ocean and possibly scrap the entire idea that it ever crashed into the ocean.
What this means is that, the International team will now focus its attention to and take seriously, the various theories and rumors doing its rounds in the Internet that the plane could have been actually hijacked and landed somewhere.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/549068/20140422/missing-malaysia-plane-mh370-landed-somewhere-crash.htmMH370 probe team may be forced to ‘start again’
He said this included the aid of the Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap, located in Alice Springs in Australia's Northern Territory.
The facility is jointly run by Australia and the US, including its Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and National Reconnaissance Office.
Malaysian authorities had also requested aid from the Australian and US governments, focusing on the Jindalee Operational Radar Network satellite. The over-the-horizon radar is able to monitor both air and sea movements across 37,000 sq km.
http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/mh370-probe-team-may-be-forced-to-start-again-1.574277
Missing Flight 370 search: Plane landing revisited, ocean search may go to land.
One of the countries that refused the Malaysian government access to a satellite was the United States.
The Jindalee Operational Radar Network satellite has over-the-horizon radar and monitors both air and sea movements across 230,000 square miles.
The Malaysian authorities were told by U.S. representatives that they could not view that information and that the satellite did not pick up any information on Flight 370. The source said “that was the end of it.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/missing-flight-370-search-plane-landing-revisited-as-ocean-search-may-turn-land0 -
The MH370 investigation team now says the plane most likely landed.
The US won't share radar data from the JORN over the horizon radar situated in Australia, this radar is rumoured to be able to monitor as far as northern China.
Had the flight took the route to the southern Indian ocean off the coast of Australia it would have been picked up so I think the search that has been going on is theatre on a big scale.
MH370 Did Not Crash? Investigation Team Now Says Plane Possibly Landed Somewhere Else Instead of Ending in Ocean.
Now the investigating officials have said that they might ultimately give up looking at the ocean and possibly scrap the entire idea that it ever crashed into the ocean.
What this means is that, the International team will now focus its attention to and take seriously, the various theories and rumors doing its rounds in the Internet that the plane could have been actually hijacked and landed somewhere.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/549068/20140422/missing-malaysia-plane-mh370-landed-somewhere-crash.htmMH370 probe team may be forced to ‘start again’
He said this included the aid of the Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap, located in Alice Springs in Australia's Northern Territory.
The facility is jointly run by Australia and the US, including its Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and National Reconnaissance Office.
Malaysian authorities had also requested aid from the Australian and US governments, focusing on the Jindalee Operational Radar Network satellite. The over-the-horizon radar is able to monitor both air and sea movements across 37,000 sq km.
http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/mh370-probe-team-may-be-forced-to-start-again-1.574277
Missing Flight 370 search: Plane landing revisited, ocean search may go to land.
One of the countries that refused the Malaysian government access to a satellite was the United States.
The Jindalee Operational Radar Network satellite has over-the-horizon radar and monitors both air and sea movements across 230,000 square miles.
The Malaysian authorities were told by U.S. representatives that they could not view that information and that the satellite did not pick up any information on Flight 370. The source said “that was the end of it.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/missing-flight-370-search-plane-landing-revisited-as-ocean-search-may-turn-land
could you point me to whereabouts in those links it says "most likely landed"? Or is that you paraphrasing?0 -
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If it had appeared to be a normal plane crash, then there would be relatively no attention paid to it then there wouldn't be "inconsistancies" for people to find and use to show there's something fishy going on.
Theres the little matter of bodies and wreckage to salvage.
As for the "inconsistencies" are you denying there has been any?I don't understand why they would go to all this trouble to fake radar data, withhold other radar data, not withhold other radar data, and presumably juggling several dozen media agencies and governments when they could have just planted some wreckage and let people forget about the whole thing in a week.
Ohh yea like they forgot about the Titanic etc in a week, "hey conspirator number 2, put some debris there and everyone will go home...
", that's a silly thing to say.
Regarding radar data, false data, witheld data etc, there are a number of countries involved and maybe the one's witholding their data (US) are testing other countries capabilities and will hold the plane until China shows it's hand/military/surveilance capabilities.0 -
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Is this impossible to fake?Theres the little matter of bodies and wreckage to salvage.
None that aren't more likely explained with non sinister miscommunications, misrepresentations, unchecked rumours and general mis-understandings.As for the "inconsistencies" are you denying there has been any?
This is especially through when the most logical conspiracy would mean that none of these inconsistencies would exist.
Or like how media interest in most air disasters quickly dissipates.Ohh yea like they forgot about the Titanic etc in a week, "hey conspirator number 2, put some debris there and everyone will go home...", that's a silly thing to say.
If the authorities "found" a piece of wreckage confirming the plane had crashed and sank into the ocean on day two of the search, do you think there'd be as much media coverage now?
And if the media coverage died off, what inconsistencies would you have to point to?
All of the inconsistencies come from the media attention, the more media attention, the more inconsistancies and the more covering up you have to do.
This doesn't make any sense. How would making a plane disappear test China's capabilities?Regarding radar data, false data, witheld data etc, there are a number of countries involved and maybe the one's witholding their data (US) are testing other countries capabilities and will hold the plane until China shows it's hand/military/surveilance capabilities.
Why would China tip their hand when they would know it's the US trying to test them?
Why would the US try when they would know that China wouldn't tip their hand?
Why do something so elaborate and obvious when they could just use actual espionage?0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJE5JdYcDMk
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