Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

JohnBoy26 · 02-04-2014 07:26PM

Interslice wrote: »

Build probably not as good but I wouldn't call it cheap. More a case of poor ownership than poor build quality. Good ones do exist. Rizee on here bought a nice colt recently too.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-lancer-glx-1-3-nct-2-15/6712567

950 euro
1.3 glx
NCT 2/2015 TAXED 4/14

Rizze's car aside(which is a low mileage example and an exception to the rule) i've yet to see a very fresh one. They are a car that just don't take age or the miles very well IMO.

Even 03, 04 colts are looking tatty now in the last few years. The paint gets very dull in them and the body dents very easily.

It's much easier to pick up a clean Honda or Toyota equivalent as they seem to last much better.

Kaiser D · 02-04-2014 08:09PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-almera-2001-nct-12-14/6573144

A friend of mine was going to see this tonight. He asked if I would go and look at it for him. He arranged to see it in a hotel car park, alarm bells started ringing when I heard that. Looked up the reg on carsireland, no NCT. I called and asked if he had the NCT cert, he said no. I checked mywheels, no NCT. So I called up, and said it was coming back as having no NCT, he just said he would find out and ring me back, then he hung up.

To anyone interested, stay away!

unkel · 02-04-2014 08:13PM

Another chancer! Fair play for doing your homework. You've saved yourself from a wasted journey

JohnBoy26 · 02-04-2014 08:18PM

Back to bangers
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-vti-auto-nct-12-15/6710984

Kaiser D · 02-04-2014 08:23PM

unkel wrote: »

Another chancer! Fair play for doing your homework. You've saved yourself from a wasted journey

He knows very little when it comes to buying, and was very surprised to hear about something like that. I wouldn't have doubted it either, the ad seems pretty decent tbh. Its just a matter of principal when buying a car, €8 well spent imo.

Is it worth reporting to Donedeal?

JohnBoy26 · 02-04-2014 08:27PM

Kaiser D wrote: »

He knows very little when it comes to buying, and was very surprised to hear about something like that. I wouldn't have doubted it either, the ad seems pretty decent tbh. Its just a matter of principal when buying a car, €8 well spent imo.

Is it worth reporting to Donedeal?

Those almera's aren't the best tbh so it might be a blessing

Kaiser D · 02-04-2014 08:32PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Those almera's aren't the best tbh so it might be a blessing

I've warned him, though he seems to like them.

I've recommended Focus' and a Corolla, the Focus is in the running but he doesn't like the Corolla.

I can't think of much else.

JohnBoy26 · 02-04-2014 08:35PM

Kaiser D wrote: »

I've warned him, though he seems to like them.

I've recommended Focus' and a Corolla, the Focus is in the running but he doesn't like the Corolla.

I can't think of much else.

Tell him to drive all three. The almera will be quickly dismissed then methinks.

GvidoR · 02-04-2014 08:38PM

So what's the deal? He has a fake NCT disc in the window or he is just hoping that the buyer will not look in the windscreen?

Also, there's plenty of cars that could be recommended apart from Focus and Corolla.

Kaiser D · 02-04-2014 08:41PM

GvidoR wrote: »

So what's the deal? He has a fake NCT disc in the window or he is just hoping that the buyer will not look in the windscreen?

Also, there's plenty of cars that could be recommended apart from Focus and Corolla.

Fake NCT disc, they are easily obtained. I know €50 can get you one around here.

4dr hatchback or estate, under 1.6 with some NCT for €900 - I cannot think of much.

JohnBoy26 · 02-04-2014 08:43PM

GvidoR wrote: »

So what's the deal? He has a fake NCT disc in the window or he is just hoping that the buyer will not look in the windscreen?

Also, there's plenty of cars that could be recommended apart from Focus and Corolla.

You could but most other petrol cars in that class from that time were poor enough.

Kaiser D · 02-04-2014 08:45PM

Back on topic anyway.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2000-volvo-v70-diesel-tax-and-test/6712915

Kaiser D · 02-04-2014 08:46PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-saab-95-arc-automatic-for-1150euros/6641486

GvidoR · 02-04-2014 08:48PM

GobblyNob wrote: »

What exactly was wrong with it? I've been tempted by a few of these ones.

Crack in exhaust manifold
Worn flexi pipe
Worn brake disc
Play in one wheel bearing
One drop link
3 corroded brake lines

Also it failed on insecure battery mounting, but that's a common enough thing.

jharr100 · 02-04-2014 09:09PM

Kaiser D wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-saab-95-arc-automatic-for-1150euros/6641486

Can you get in trouble for having a 2.3 taxed as a 2.0?

Also.. Does the 2.3 suffer sludge death , is 151k high for these ?

dgt · 02-04-2014 09:21PM

jharr100 wrote: »

Can you get in trouble for having a 2.3 taxed as a 2.0?

Also.. Does the 2.3 suffer sludge death , is 151k high for these ?

Yes and yes. You can get in trouble for that.
On sludge look for toastedpickles thread on his 2.3 and the sludge in the sump :eek:

wotzgoingon · 02-04-2014 09:28PM

GvidoR wrote: »

Crack in exhaust manifold
Worn flexi pipe
Worn brake disc
Play in one wheel bearing
One drop link
3 corroded brake lines

Also it failed on insecure battery mounting, but that's a common enough thing.

Did you do any work to fix the car yet?

dgt · 02-04-2014 09:34PM

NCT Till Feb, 1750

Tax till May

dgt · 02-04-2014 09:35PM

NCT Till Feb, 1490

2.6

GvidoR · 02-04-2014 09:36PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Did you do any work to fix the car yet?

Manifold and flexi pipe are sorted, should get all the other bits by next week.

dgt · 02-04-2014 09:38PM

NCT Till Sept, 1200

Taxed till June, dayyysel

unkel · 02-04-2014 09:40PM

I like the W210! Is going to be a hard sell that. I'd wait a few days, then show up with €1k and not budge. Would he take it?

Isn't that a 2.4l BTW? I thought the E240 didn't go up to 2.6l until the W211 model?

dgt · 02-04-2014 09:40PM

NCT till Jan, 1500

Taxed till July

dgt · 02-04-2014 09:43PM

unkel wrote: »

I like the W210! Is going to be a hard sell that. I'd wait a few days, then show up with €1k and not budge. Would he take it?

It almost is saleproof with that tax so there is a chance he'd bite..... However, I found another one, NCT'd till July next year but shows a disc with this year as it's expiry... :mad:

Better with the 240 :cool:

Edit: I'm sure it's the 2.6 with the quare 18v setup, he states the 2.6 tax in the ad

GvidoR · 02-04-2014 09:46PM

NCT: 15-04-2015
Mileage: 79,XXX
€850 ONO

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-colt-1996-1-3cc/6707755

Soarer · 02-04-2014 09:57PM

unkel wrote: »

'05 Volvo S80, low miles, high spec, belt just done, NCT 08/15, asking €1,950

Needs a valet and some hard negotiation - owner needs cash - potential bargain of the month

So what are these yokes actually like? Thirsty? Reliable? Known issues?

Have always liked them. But would have to sell my own reliable lump, and it'd break my heart to bring trouble on myself.

unkel · 02-04-2014 10:09PM

Very reliable. Volvo modular engine (5-pot) is strong and reliable and capable of massive mileage. A lot of poke (180BHP turbo) for low insurance and low (2l) motor tax. I would look for proof that the belt + pump were indeed done just now. Doesn't make economical sense to have it done and sell straight away.

And you know the answer to your first question yourself. Big heavy car with a turbo petrol engine. It ain't gonna be frugal

Kaiser D · 02-04-2014 10:54PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/02-nissan-almera-new-nct-and-taxed/6713135

Lads, you probably won't believe this. We went to view this this evening. I rang first after my friend has shown me the ad, a girl answered and said she couldn't talk, she would ring me back. A few minutes later I got a call back from a private number, I answered and a guy was on the other end, with no explanation as to why he had called until I queried, his sister was selling her car was his response. We made arrangements to see the car despite my worries - the photos deliberately not showing the reg or background, and being called back by an untraceable number. We got out to see the car, and it turned out I knew his brother, and out of the blue, he just exclaimed that he couldn't sell us the car because it has a fake NCT and he didn't want it falling back on him when we found out. I was lost for words, and we left shortly afterwards.

His "plan" dawned on me in the car then, I call his sister, she makes an excuse so as to hang up, gives her brother and gives my number, he calls on a withheld number that can't be traced after he sells the car.
Its really been a mad evening. Not a good car-buying experience for my friend either. I've saved him nearly a grand on two occasions.

I've reported the ad to Donedeal, along with a mywheels report.

GvidoR · 02-04-2014 10:57PM

Strange. Makes me wonder if there's plenty of people selling cars with fake NCT discs.

unkel · 02-04-2014 11:00PM

Why even bother to go see the car if carsireland shows it has no NCT? Plenty of fish in the sea

Edit - I see you didn't have the reg. If I'm interested in a car, I ask to know the reg. If the seller refuses, I look elsewhere...

Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

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