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When is it acceptable to have a drink?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    beano345 wrote: »
    They say drinking on your own is a sign of alcoholism,I dunno could you do without it for a week?a month? If no then I'd say you have your answer

    I don't drink every day. This is the thing. I was on holiday when this was said to me. We stopped off at a shop and I bought 2 bottles of wine to last me the week and the second one was shared and a third of the bottle left behind.

    I am a driver, so don't drink during the day full stop and I may get through one bottle a week.

    At the moment I'm not drinking because I'd like to lose a little weight and it's to high in calories, so easiest thing to do with out.

    I'm not going cold turkey or anything loike!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭sheesh


    let me be the first on this thread to admit I am a terrible drinker! but there are different types of drinking there is drinking to get drunk (which I do woot!) and then there is having a drink because you can.

    this is very nice. I can have one Can of beer while watching tv on my own and be quiet happy the point is not getting drunk but enjoying the feeling that you can have a drink. this means a sort of freedom. then off to bed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    sheesh wrote: »
    let me be the first on this thread to admit I am a terrible drinker! but there are different types of drinking there is drinking to get drunk (which I do woot!) and then there is having a drink because you can.

    this is very nice. I can have one Can of beer while watching tv on my own and be quiet happy the point is not getting drunk but enjoying the feeling that you can have a drink. this means a sort of freedom. then off to bed!

    That's the one and because I like the flavour. If I pick a bad bottle by accident, then it most likely won't get drunk. I certainly don't drink for the sake of it.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,475 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    I do a DJ gig on Fridays in Cafe/Bar. Part of the deal I made with them at the start was money (not much, covers taxi) and a few beers.
    Well, there is no cap on the amount of beers I'm allowed and in about 4 hour period I've had up to 8. That would be when I also eat there and with drinking a good few glasses of water.
    I always feel good after leaving the place but there was once I got a tad too drunk too quick. :-/
    Nothing bad happened but I'd like to think it jolted me into being more continuous of my alcohol/food/water intake in future when I'm there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    It depends on the situation. Nothing wrong with having a drink in the evening to unwind but its too much imo if you are getting drunk at home on a regular occurrence.

    My mother has alcohol dependency issues and I recognised she had a problem when I realised she was getting drunk 4-5 evenings a week while watching the telly. She wasn't necessarily alone, my dad and siblings were around but that made it even more surreal because she was obviously the only one that was drunk. I was in denial about it until one day we went for lunch after a spot of shopping and she ordered shots of sambuca after she'd eaten. She still denies she has any problem at all :rolleyes:

    I don't think this is an easy one to answer. So many other factors come into it when determining how often is too often.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    It depends on the situation. Nothing wrong with having a drink in the evening to unwind but its too much imo if you are getting drunk at home on a regular occurrence.

    My mother has alcohol dependency issues and I recognised she had a problem when I realised she was getting drunk 4-5 evenings a week while watching the telly. She wasn't necessarily alone, my dad and siblings were around but that made it even more surreal because she was obviously the only one that was drunk. I was in denial about it until one day we went for lunch after a spot of shopping and she ordered shots of sambuca after she'd eaten. She still denies she has any problem at all :rolleyes:

    I don't think this is an easy one to answer. So many other factors come into it when determining how often is too often.

    It always surprises me how quickly people seem to drink when we go out for a night. I just can't keep up and then I start to feel bloated. I tend to drink a long drink and then have a lime and soda if out with the girls, as I like to remember the evening.

    I think sometimes you can just get tired of drinking tea all day and I have water by my bedside, but the taste does not excite my taste buds. You can't beat the flavour of a nice full bodied glass of wine now and again :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    whirlpool wrote: »
    It's fine to drink anytime, so long as it's not affecting yourself or other people negatively and most importantly you could go cold turkey at any time.

    If the thoughts of giving up drink completely for a month makes you wince then it's no longer okay to drink anymore, full stop.

    This is it in a nutshell! apart from one aspect, I don't think it's ok to drink anytime.. if your drinking during the day(I think you know what I mean)well then also 'I' would assume you have a problem!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    I live alone and quite enjoy chilling out and having a few drinks while watching telly. This is usually once a week, and consists of 3-4 nice beers or else a few glasses of wine. Drink some water, bed at a resonable hour, sleep like a log. I find this to be a nice relaxing thing to do with my hard earned spare time.

    The alternative is going to the pub with my friends. Its good craic, but I'll always end up drinking much more, and way less likely to be productive the following day. Although the social aspect is being taken away with home drinking, its probably healthier than the pub option in my case. Depending on the mood I'm in or the occasion, I'm happy to do either. I don't understand this attitude that if you're drinking alone, you're an alcoholic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    ardle1 wrote: »
    This is it in a nutshell! apart from one aspect, I don't think it's ok to drink anytime.. if your drinking during the day(I think you know what I mean)well then also 'I' would assume you have a problem!!

    But what about the chap who said he might open a can at lunch time to drink while playing on his computer game and that would likely be it for the rest of the day? It's not like he's continuing to drink throughout the day, it just happens to be his preference for when he drinks and the activity he is doing.

    When I was young it was acceptable to drink while you eat your meal and I'd be included on special occasions. Now we know scientifically speaking it's not good to drink anything while you are eating, so even though it is socially acceptable, it's not physically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    CK73 wrote: »
    Now we know scientifically speaking it's not good to drink anything while you are eating.

    I did not know this. Why not?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    I commented to a relative about their wine drinking. Should I have kept quiet? Their shopping always includes a few bottles of wine, they have wine with meals, wine watching television, and wine if someone visits. They know the price of wine, the types of wine, special offers on wine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭truedoom


    No harm in having a drink by yourself. Often i'd have a beer with dinner. Or maybe have one when watching tv/film.

    Whoever told you that drinking alone = alcoholic is a dumbass. Don't mind them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Alcoholism is about why and, to a lesser extent, quantity.

    If you're having one drink in the evening to unwind, you're not an alcoholic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    diomed wrote: »
    I commented to a relative about their wine drinking. Should I have kept quiet? Their shopping always includes a few bottles of wine, they have wine with meals, wine watching television, and wine if someone visits. They know the price of wine, the types of wine, special offers on wine.

    If you're talking 2 bottles of wine over a period of 7 days, then is that a concern? If you're talking more than 2 and they are the only ones consuming the wine or you think they might be going out and getting more, then maybe.

    You know some people have cellars full of the stuff, but no one goes around accusing them of being alcoholics, they think of them as having knowledge and prizing the wine for it's maturity etc.

    With reference to drinking while eating, I believe it is better to drink before you eat, but not during. Here's something I found online...
    Is it beneficial to drink while you eat? It seems there are a few schools of thought when it comes to drinking while eating and although there may not necessarily be one right way, it is clear there are some things to avoid. Our body’s perform a number of processes while eating and digesting so it’s important to understand and consider each while determining if drinking water while eating is best for us.
    • Our mouthes create saliva while eating as it contains digestive enzymes to help break down food. These enzymes are very important in creating a healthy digestive process.
    • Our stomachs contain gastric juices that aid in digestion and are instrumental in killing any bacteria we might consume in the food we eat. It is important these juices function properly as they help break down food and allow the stomach to contract and pulverize food into a state that can be pushed to the small intestine.
    • The liver is also important as once nutrients are taken from the food we eat they are sent through the bloodstream to the liver. From there, the liver distributes the nutrients to different areas of the body. It determines what to keep for later and what to utilize right away. The liver requires an ample amount of water to function and do its job properly.
    To Drink or Not to Drink

    The main area of debate is whether or not drinking water during a meal is harmful or beneficial to the digestive process. There is no doubting the fact that drinking too much water during meals can interfere with the natural and necessary levels of bile and stomach acid. This would slow the digestion process and reduce the body’s ability to produce enough digestive enzymes to digest foods properly. Without proper digestion, a build up of toxic waste can occur no matter what you are eating.We can apply the same principles when thinking about other beverages we might consume during a meal. In the case of alcoholic drinks and acidic beverages like soda, they tend to dry up the saliva your glands have produced, making it even more difficult to properly digest food. Drinking water or other beverages while they are cold also slows down digestion and can create cramping in some individuals.

    It is clear that drinking water before and after you eat aids the digestive process. The general consensus on this is that drinking water about 30 minutes before you eat will help keep the body hydrated which results in optimal digestion. For the liver, this is also important as overall body hydration aids in optimal liver performance. Drinking water about 30 minutes after can also assist in hydrating the body through the latter parts of digestion and replenish the lost liquids from digestion. It is important to note that drinking water during a meal would be more beneficial than not drinking while eating if you are not properly hydrated before hand. Eating while dehydrated can cause the body to have a very tough time digesting food.


    Now that's just about water, so introduce alcohol and the body is having to deal with the poisons in that as well as digesting food. Also alcohol dehydrates, so if having water in the system is important for digestion, then drinking alcohol is counter productive, as it is dehydrating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    PM on thr clocks - vodka rocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭oceanman


    few quick pints during the lunch break always go down a treat...breaks the day up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    You are an alcoholic when you drink alcohol to escape from the life you lead when you are sober.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    I think it's ok as long as you are not drinking to get hammered every single night of the week. I enjoy having a drink to myself every now and again , it's not often I get free time to myself so it's nice when I do.

    Few thing's more enjoyable than having a whiskey and listening to some music that I want to listen to without having to listen to 10 other people saying...

    'Ahh that song's rubbish , give me a shot , play this , play that'

    Silence is golden at times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Having a glass of wine or beer is quite alright in my book, As has been said already it's when your drinking becomes the one of your must haves when the problems start to arise,IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    realies wrote: »
    Having a glass of wine or beer is quite alright in my book, As has been said already it's when your drinking becomes the one of your must haves when the problems start to arise,IMO.

    That's what I think and stuff like when you have £10 in your pocket and you need food, does the money go on food or booze? With me it would be food every time. I spent years when I couldn't afford to buy a bottle of wine, so now I can I consider it a treat, it certainly isn't a given that I have some around the house.

    I used to be in a club called 'naked wines' and paid in £5 a month. I'd wait till the end of the year and buy a box of 12 to share with friends and family over Christmas. This Christmas I took my box of wine over to England with me and ended up on antibiotics, which didn't allow alcohol, so I didn't drink any until New Years Eve and to be fair, I was more interested in 'playing Auntie' with my new Niece than drinking.

    I stopped the club back in December when I got the box.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭Skatedude


    I mostly drink alone. i grew up in the pub trade and dont feel the appeal to go out too much.
    I'll usually be online gaming and chatting to my friends as well, but i would only drink once or twice a week and wouldnt touch a drop for the rest of the week.
    Normally i'll drink dry cider, but lately i'll drink a bit of vodka as it's not as calorie laden as the cider


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    If you're getting drunk a couple of nights in a row, you must have a couple of dry days following that to recover. Having 2 beers a day is fine, having 7 a day for years is a problem for your health.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Having a drink alone is different to drinking in groups but it's still nice. I sometimes stop on the way home from work in the summer for a quiet pint, gather your thoughts and watch the world go by from a window seat. If some killjoy wants to brand that as alcoholism, fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    what about having a shoulder (35cl bottle) of jack daniels once a week on a friday night? and then nothing for the rest of the week???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    You are an alcoholic when you drink alcohol to escape from the life you lead when you are sober.

    A recovering alcoholic told me once that his definition (outside of the obvious advanced stage ones like affecting your family and work) of an initial issue was that it was not somebody who, say, had a bottle of wine every Friday from choice and who really looked forward to it but somebody for whom - for whatever reason - not being able to have that bottle of wine on Friday would suddenly be a big issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Any substance that alters your mood should be encouraged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    I only make it a rule to have drinks on days that begin with a T (Tuesday, Thursday, Thaturday, Thunday)

    :mad: Thop tlagging my lispt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    If you answer yes to the following question then it is acceptable to have a drink.

    Are you awake?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 815 ✭✭✭animaal


    Yes OP, you have a problem. The good news is that it's easy to fix.
    CK73 wrote: »
    Generally a bottle of wine, once opened will last me 3 days and often the last of it will go down the sink, because it has lost its flavour.

    Get one of those rubber corks, with the pump. It seals the bottle, sucking the air out. Then you'll get more than three days from your bottle, especially if you store it in the fridge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I watched the first episode of "House of Cards" a few days ago: there's a scene in which Kevin Spacey's character uses not drinking as a weapon. He has a congressman in his office who is known to like his drink - he was just bailed out of for DUI and solicitation - and so Spacey offers him a drink. But then the congressman spots that Spacey doesn't take a drink himself, asks why, and is told "oh, it's too early for me".

    The Passive-Aggressive - it burns ... :eek:

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



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