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Season 4 Finale - Episode 16 - "A" [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    It seems impossible for the tv forums to stick with the subject matter at hand, ie, the tv show, when comics or books exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


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    They wouldn't though. It's not particularly difficult to keep meat from spoiling, think of all those thousands of years before refrigeration.

    I don't mean spoiling in the usual use of the word. I mean their food could be poisonous if the person had turned. How could they be sure the person hasn't started turning into a zombie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


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    Pity Abraham and Eugene already have meat on their bones :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭nc6000


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    Are people just assuming they are cannibals in Terminus or did I miss something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


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    nc6000 wrote: »
    Are people just assuming they are cannibals in Terminus or did I miss something?

    Always cooking large pieces of meat on the BBQ, writing saying trust no one , first always, skeletal remains stripped of any meat in a cage, hearing other people locked up in containers, powerered milk outside current container- why are they keeping them alive, why are they tricking them into arriving, why aren't they feeding them plentiful meat & vege?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


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    Grimebox wrote: »
    I don't mean spoiling in the usual use of the word. I mean their food could be poisonous if the person had turned. How could they be sure the person hasn't started turning into a zombie?

    By destroying the brain when killing the victim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,511 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


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    Sir Chops wrote: »
    Terminus doesn't exist in the comics so untwist the knickers.

    no but
    cannibals
    do and that's what were talking about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,511 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


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    ok so if we're talking cannibals, so aslong as you avoid the brain you can eat human meat for aslong as you want? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#Medical_aspects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,511 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


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    the most suspicious thing is why they are so few of them.


    why don't they have better fences.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    the most suspicious thing is why they are so few of them.


    and why don't they have better fences.

    There seemed to be plenty to be fair, well armed too. Definitely more in their numbers than in Rick's anyway. The only you could say though is that Rick's are probably more hardened.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


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    the most suspicious thing is why they are so few of them.


    why don't they have better fences.

    There's not that few at all, there were plenty of people on the roofs, on the far side of the fence. Maybe that's why they don't have more fences, they have the people to patrol them. And I guess they're trying to make the place look as 'welcoming' as possible. If you get one or two stragglers on the road, they're more likely to walk into somewhere low security then try and hurl themselves over barricades.

    All that woman must do all day is stand around grilling meat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


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    Dissapointing ending really. .. a cliffhanger needs to leave you wanting yes .. but it also needs to reveal something, this revealed nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


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    People have way too much expectations of finale's drilled into them. I was expecting far worse of a cliff hanger to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭iPink


    It was a good episode. .. but as a finale. .. meh!!

    First of all I thought I'd mistakenly started watching the wrong episode too! Didn't mind the flash backs.. and the gang bang at the start was pretty good. .. totally see why Rick did it. .. you do what you can to survive & if someone threatens your family like that. .well....

    Don't get why they put in the bit about yer man being eaten (perhaps to show how hard Rick has become... The old Rick would have gone in guns blazing regardless...?? ) also why would all the walkers suddenly start following them when there was a nice fresh body to eat? !

    In terminus. .. What is the obsession they have with 'fixing a plate for someone...'?? Why feed someone bbq you were intending to kill & eat them anyway! !

    The was something in the interaction between the guy Rick had the gun to & the leader guy. .. it was like they hadn't decided yet what to do with them I felt & the guy Rick had was perhaps trying to save them somehow...??

    I totally missed all the 'A's everywhere but it was so obvious they were being herded & heard the other ppl shouting & calling for help from the containers. ..

    Why would there be bloody carcasses left out in the open like that anyway. ..???

    I presumed all the stuff in the altar room was to show some sort of backdrop to what was going to happen. .. They trusted before & it went badly for them so now it's a blanket 'no trust" policy (cannibals or not) though why exactly they were allowed to see that room is beyond me add they were being herded as anyway! ! I would have stopped running or broken through something to go a different way once I realised my path was being directed...!!

    Something that really bothered me was why the hell did it take so long to direct them into the container & why did it have to be in such perfect order. ..???

    Also thought fattening up food when I saw the milk & plates! !

    And finally. .. What are the odds that they would be put in the same container as Glenn & co....!!! There were so many containers around! ! And Glenn & co don't try to break out when the door is opened... Seriously? ?!

    That's all for now. .. as I said ok episode but for a season finale. ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


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    Eugene will use his geek powers to find a way out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    iPink wrote: »

    And finally. .. What are the odds that they would be put in the same container as Glenn & co....!!! There were so many containers around! ! And Glenn & co don't try to break out when the door is opened... Seriously? ?!
    I thought it was deliberate. Rick recognised the watch, riot gear etc so your man would've known that Rick knew Glenn. What would be the point in Glenn trying to escape? They could hear the gun fire and know they are surrounded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭Liamalone


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    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    I thought it was deliberate. Rick recognised the watch, riot gear etc so your man would've known that Rick knew Glenn. What would be the point in Glenn trying to escape? They could hear the gun fire and know they are surrounded.

    Surely if yer man cottoned on that they knew each other, keep them apart!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Liamalone wrote: »
    Surely if yer man cottoned on that they knew each other, keep them apart!
    Who knows what goes through a psycho's mind. Maybe he thinks it was better to put them together to keep them under control. Rick went mad wanting to know what happened to Glenn. Now he knows and is in a pretty helpless situation which makes him harmless.

    Something that has been bugging me is why did Rick let on so quickly that he recognised Glenn's watch? Would it not have been wiser to keep that under wraps until he formed a plan with the others?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭maryfred


    Wouldn't Michonne have seen Tara when she was with the Governer and say who she was?Glenn lied to Maggie and said he met her along the way,but she was part of the Governors gang when Herscel was murdered.I think (hope) that Carol and Tyrese will have a lot to do with getting them out. And why has Maggie completely forgotten that she has a sister!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,249 ✭✭✭ardinn


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    Weak final line but that was a hell of an episodes besides that. Best kill so far by anyone from Rick I reckon.

    FALSE

    you-just-got-RICKd-500x285.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,511 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


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    i wonder if they watched Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


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    maryfred wrote: »
    Wouldn't Michonne have seen Tara when she was with the Governer and say who she was?Glenn lied to Maggie and said he met her along the way,but she was part of the Governors gang when Herscel was murdered.I think (hope) that Carol and Tyrese will have a lot to do with getting them out. And why has Maggie completely forgotten that she has a sister!


    Tara was never at Woodbury, so Michonne would never had met her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,497 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Tara was never at Woodbury, so Michonne would never had met her.

    They mean when he held her and Herschel captive earlier this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    iPink wrote: »
    What are the odds that they would be put in the same container as Glenn & co....!!! There were so many containers around! !

    I assumed they were just filling the containers one by one as new people arrived. Glenn's group probably got there just before Rick's did, so they put them in the container currently being used for new arrivals.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,476 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


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    Good episode really enjoyed the feral side of Rick coming out, felt everything had been building to that. Loved the flashbacks really slick.

    I did think the milk cartons might mean Judith is already there with Carol and Tyresse? But as others have suggested maybe it is to fatten up people.

    I'd say Glenn and that didn't try to escape when the door opened as maybe someone else had been with them and told them what happens to you if you are taken from the container your
    brown bread
    .

    I wonder will a big herd come through and that will give them their escape plan for season 5. It would be a bit rich if Carol and Tyreese save them. Perhaps if they arrive with Judith, Tasha Yar will not look to eat them but help them and then they stumble on the gang? Can't wait!

    I enjoyed the season as a whole but really feel the mid season break ruined things, next year if they are going to do that I might just record all the episodes and bulk watch. It felt like 2 seasons rather than one, it lost its flow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


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    Do you think the meat on Marys grill is drugged? they must see people coming a mile away for her to always be ready on the grill. and peope be all happy milling around casual like. They let all the new arrivals keep their weapons to make them feel safe, but that is dangerous for themselves, so they must have a backup plan because new arrivals like the gang Darryl was with could probably kill quite few people before the snipers got them all if they wanted. Think thats why Rick knocked the plate out of Carls hand.

    I think the candle room is a memorial to all the people theyve lost.

    Dont know how they are going to get out of this one. A sniper or 2 trained on the door of the container and noone would get out alive. Dont think Tyreese and Carol are going to be able to help them much either.

    I really hope they dont end up easily capturing one of the Terminus people who comes to feed them, and then negotiating their release. I want to see a really decent plan for once!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Brian_Zeluz


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    ardinn wrote: »
    FALSE

    you-just-got-RICKd-500x285.jpg

    Nope, still think his latest was better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    i wonder if they watched Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter

    The same thing was in my head when I posted this ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,802 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


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    Saw this online, class. Mary must have claimed the Gov's umbrella!

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭kaisersuzy


    How did the outlaw group know it was Rick who strangled one of theirs in the bathroom.....from what I remember from that episode he snook away before being seen by any of them, only one who saw him was the guy he killed


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