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Bowing to Royalty

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  • #32
    [Deleted User]
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    Holsten wrote: »
    Hahaha come on.

    Manners my ass, they are people same as you or me.

    I'd have a shake of the hand no problem at all, that is manners, bowing is not.

    Respecting the culture of your hosts is good manners.

    If you don't want to do it, then don't accept any invitations to meet the queen. Win-win.


  • #33
    tomwaterford
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    Candie wrote: »
    Respecting the culture of your hosts is good manners.

    If you don't want to do it, then don't accept any invitations to meet the queen. Win-win.

    this seems the most sane solution for all involved...


  • #34
    ArtyM
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    this seems the most sane solution for all involved...

    but then you miss out on all the ferero rocher!


  • #35
    Ruu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Hands in the pockets like ROG. :D That or I'll bow like Mr.Bean.


  • #36
    tomwaterford
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    ArtyM wrote: »
    but then you miss out on all the ferero rocher!

    but you get to eat peas off your knife :D


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Always let the pope do the first line.

    I was thinking more along the lines of no teabags on the drainer or turning on the extractor in the bathroom if he left it less than spring fresh. :)


  • #38
    [Deleted User]
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    NiallSparky wrote: »
    Since when is bowing considered basic manners? :confused:

    If you are an invited guest in her house then yea it would be.


  • #39
    awec
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    Ruubot2 wrote: »
    Hands in the pockets like ROG. :D That or I'll bow like Mr.Bean.

    The hands in the pocket things is really misunderstood. He did everything you were meant to do, the photo caught him just before he was due to be introduced.

    Explained it all in his book. Meant no disrespect or anything like that and wasn't making any sort of statement. Suffers from sweaty hands when nervous apparently!


  • #40
    Ruu
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    I know, such a big fuss over it at the time, Sky News reporters creamed themselves. :p


  • #41
    delw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    So does the queen have to bow to other royalty when she is in their country


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  • #42
    tomwaterford
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    If you are an invited guest in her house then yea it would be.

    do you normally bow to people when you visit them???


  • #43
    DM addict
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    delw wrote: »
    So does the queen have to bow to other royalty when she is in their country

    I'm not sure about heads of state meeting each other. I think they're probably supposed to do a sort of brief nod. I know that QE2 is related to half the monarchy in Europe, so they might just go for a handshake.

    And if you're meeting royalty ranked lower than yourself - eg. a crown prince meeting a duke - then they bow to you, regardless of whose country you're in.

    Glad we're past all this nonsense.


  • #44
    Sir Arthur Daley
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    delw wrote: »
    So does the queen have to bow to other royalty when she is in their country

    That happened once, they ended up head butting each other.


  • #45
    Neyite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,946 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I've covered my arms and shoulders and removed my footwear when going into a Buddhist temple. I'm not Buddhist. I do likewise in a catholic church - kneeling/sitting /wearing appropriate clothing though I don't consider myself a catholic. If I entered a mosque, I would cover my hair though I personally have a dislike of the hijab for what it represents.

    I would'nt bow simply because she is a queen of another country, but because I am respectful of the people of that country I would observe the customs of that country.


  • #46
    delw
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    WikiHow wrote: »
    That happened once, they ended up head butting each other.
    :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    do you normally bow to people when you visit them???

    If it was the queen of England in Buckingham palace, then yea, I would.

    Its called manners.
    If you don't wanna do it, don't go. Simple.


  • #48
    tomwaterford
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    If it was the queen of England in Buckingham palace, then yea, I would.

    Its called manners.
    If you don't wanna do it, don't go. Simple.

    how is the queen of England in any way different from your neighbour though??

    I severly doubt il ever get an invite to Buckingham palace:pac:
    I would have no bother doing it so long as she bowed to me as well...find the whole concept bizzare TBH and struggle to see manners in it

    once upon a time when people used to be meeting priests bishops etc they used to kneel down and kiss their ring....ive yet to see anyone put this forward as mannerly this day and age


    got in severe issues over this in school with a religious nut of a teacher for refusing to kneel before a priest (and I more religious than most who did actually kneel)..you earn your respect in my eyes


  • #49
    2 stroke
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    When the queen visited Ireland, she wore a green coat and a green hat. So should we dress Michael D in a green coat and hat for his visit?


  • #50
    Sir Arthur Daley
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    2 stroke wrote: »
    When the queen visited Ireland, she wore a green coat and a green hat. So should we dress Michael D in a green coat and hat for his visit?

    So the queen was not wearing anything under her coat? :eek:


  • #51
    tomwaterford
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    2 stroke wrote: »
    When the queen visited Ireland, she wore a green coat and a green hat. So should we dress Michael D in a green coat and hat for his visit?


    nope crown and a robe perhaps???


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  • #52
    pale blue dot cotton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭pale blue dot cotton


    I'd like to think of myself as an easy going mannerly person. But I don't agree with royalty and or anything they stand for. I don't see why anyone would bow to them unless you believe in the whole thing and if you do then fair play. Whatever you're into.

    It's easy for me to sit here as a keyboard warrior saying I wouldn't bow to her or any of her family but I wouldn't. If I ever done anything worthy of an accolade from their family, I wouldn't accept it. Not because I'd refuse to bow, but because I don't recognise what they stand for. As far as I can see they are little more than a tourist attraction.


  • #53
    [Deleted User]
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    When I was in Thailand last year I covered my shoulders and knees going into the royal palace and any temples.
    I'm off to Cambodia and Vietnam soon and I will do the same or whatever is the custom there.
    If I was going to Buckingham palace I would do what the custom is there too.

    Its just manners and respecting other people customs.
    Irish people seem to be just very racist/anti British culture/customs.

    If you don't like them, just don't go!


  • #54
    [Deleted User]
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    You don't have to bow to the queen of England if she is in Ireland.


  • #55
    Jimoslimos
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    You don't have to bow to the queen of England if she is in Ireland.
    You don't have to bow to her if you're in England either. TBH not taking off her gloves when shaking hands irks me more than the bowing/curtsey expectations.


  • #56
    Happyman42
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    Candie wrote: »
    Like it or not, it's considered good manners to bow when you're introduced to the queen. Maybe not by you, so if you were meeting the queen in your own living room it woudn't be bad manners. But if you were meeting her on her territory, then it would be mannerly to respect the local culture.

    When in Rome do as they do in the Palace, or something like that.

    It is not considered good manners, and neither is it expected. You can greet royalty any way you wish, either by a handshake or as the Aus PM did, a nod.
    Some Irish have the subservient gene still when it comes to the British royal family. If they had hats they'd be doffing them.


  • #57
    Amirani
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    Its just manners and respecting other people customs.
    Irish people seem to be just very racist/anti British culture/customs.

    There's plenty of British people who are anti-monarchy and don't like the Queen - about 25% of Britons think that the UK would be better off without a monarch. Only 39% want the hereditary rules to remain in place and for Charles to be heir.

    I'm not sure it's completely fair to say that disliking aspects of monarchy is akin to being anti-British culture/customs.


  • #58
    wil
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    2 stroke wrote: »
    When the queen visited Ireland, she wore a green coat and a green hat. So should we dress Michael D in a green coat and hat for his visit?

    A leprechaun suit,:o no that'd be too stereotypical and tacky.

    I'd recommend one of these gems.:cool:


  • #59
    sheikhnguyen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭sheikhnguyen


    I think a nod and a "howse it goin' Lizzy?" would be more than sufficient for her. None of this bowing and scrapping nonsense.


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
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    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    You don't have to bow to her if you're in England either. TBH not taking off her gloves when shaking hands irks me more than the bowing/curtsey expectations.

    Well you're hardly likely to meet her walking down the high street in Liverpool!!!!
    Realistically you are going to meet her by appointment, if you don't want to be respectful, then just don't meet her.

    To be fair, its really a non issue for most if us!


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  • #61
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    I suppose you could just treat the queen same as any other royal family you meet.
    Spain, Monaco, Denmark, Holland etc etc

    If invited to meet any if them in their own country, I guess most people would just just treat them with respect.


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