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Bowing to Royalty

  • 25-03-2014 11:54PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,925 ✭✭✭


    I couldn't help notice on the news tonight how at the reception in Bucky Palace for d Irish in London the amount of Irish people who found it necessary to bow or curtsey to the British monarch and her husband.
    Is this really appropriate in this day and age? Are we to expect Michael D to do the same next month when he pays a visit?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭BNMC


    If Michael D bowed, his head would hit the floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    It is protocol to bow/curtsy to Royalty from any country . Not to do so would show bad manners.


    Note: This does not apply to the 'King' of Tory. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I couldn't help notice

    I'm sure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    I couldn't help notice on the news tonight how at the reception in Bucky Palace for d Irish in London the amount of Irish people who found it necessary to bow or curtsey to the British monarch and her husband.
    Is this really appropriate in this day and age? Are we to expect Michael D to do the same next month when he pays a visit?

    It's outdated for sure but it's only pomp and ceremony, it's been done like that for a long time and it's more ceremonial than anything else, not sure though if visiting heads of states are requested to do it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Irish people don't need to bow or curtsey.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    I couldn't help notice on the news tonight how at the reception in Bucky Palace for d Irish in London the amount of Irish people who found it necessary to bow or curtsey to the British monarch and her husband.
    Is this really appropriate in this day and age? Are we to expect Michael D to do the same next month when he pays a visit?

    AFAIK this is protocol.....stupid...but you choose to go out of your way to meet the queen....what would expect to happen???
    not all countries are republic's for some reason people view this as appropriate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I know I'm backwards, but I was brought up to respect the traditions and mannerisms of others to the best of my ability as long as they weren't doing me any harm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I wouldn't bow to any royal. Be it english or any other. Why should I or anyone else?

    I'd gladly bow to a japanese person out of respect for their culture. Not some descendant of a ruler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Always a great chance to check out her boobs sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    WikiHow wrote: »
    Always a great chance to check out her boobs sure.

    o jesus....that's a terrible image
    actually made me laugh:pac::pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    It's a quaint little tradition in a world of PC madness,plus sure don't we all love the old girl now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    I wouldn't bow to Eliza and she's my queen, though if she handed me a grand i would bow and lick her feet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    kneemos wrote: »
    It's a quaint little tradition in a world of PC madness,plus sure don't we all love the old girl now?

    there actually aload of other random rules....I saw them in one of local papers down here before...
    cant remember most now,only the one.....you cant eat pea's off a knife in her presence:confused:


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't bow to any royal. Be it english or any other. Why should I or anyone else?

    I'd gladly bow to a japanese person out of respect for their culture. Not some descendant of a ruler.

    Bowing to royalty is part of British culture. If you're meeting the queen as her guest, you should probably play by her rules. Just like taking off your shoes before you enter a mosque, if it's their tradition and you've accepted an invitation to be their guest, then play their game.

    If I met the pope, I'd do whatever you do when you meet the pope even though I'm a atheist. Because I'm polite. Unless the pope came to visit me in my house, in which case we'd play by my rules.

    Must think up some rules for visiting popes :).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I wouldn't bow to any royal. Be it english or any other. Why should I or anyone else?

    I'd gladly bow to a japanese person out of respect for their culture. Not some descendant of a ruler.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    I hope you all have your nausea medication ready for the next few weeks. We're going to be subjected to more of the same pathetic fawning over the British as we had a couple of years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    I know I'm backwards, but I was brought up to respect the traditions and mannerisms of others to the best of my ability as long as they weren't doing me any harm.
    Still though, mooning the queen is a bit much


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Candie wrote: »
    Bowing to royalty is part of British culture. If you're meeting the queen as her guest, you should probably play by her rules. Just like taking off your shoes before you enter a mosque, if it's their tradition and you've accepted an invitation to be their guest, then play their game.

    If I met the pope, I'd do whatever you do when you meet the pope even though I'm a atheist. Because I'm polite. Unless the pope came to visit me in my house, in which case we'd play by my rules.

    Must think up some rules for visiting popes :).
    Always let the pope do the first line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    Candie wrote: »
    Bowing to royalty is part of British culture. If you're meeting the queen as her guest, you should probably play by her rules. Just like taking off your shoes before you enter a mosque, if it's their tradition and you've accepted an invitation to be their guest, then play their game.

    If I met the pope, I'd do whatever you do when you meet the pope even though I'm a atheist. Because I'm polite. Unless the pope came to visit me in my house, in which case we'd play by my rules.

    Must think up some rules for visiting popes :).

    in ancient ireland it was s sign of respect to lick the kings nipple, the next best thing is your man higgins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Why anyone would bow is beyond me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    I doubt the Queen cares either way at this stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    BBDBB wrote: »
    I doubt the Queen cares either way at this stage

    You would never put her at 87.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Holsten wrote: »
    Why anyone would bow is beyond me.

    Because you lack basic manners maybe ?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    whupdedo wrote: »
    Because you lack basic manners maybe ?

    Since when is bowing considered basic manners? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    WikiHow wrote: »
    You would never put her at 87.
    She was 88 a couple of days ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Candie wrote: »
    If I met the pope, I'd do whatever you do when you meet the pope even though I'm a atheist.
    Kiss his ring?!


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Since when is bowing considered basic manners? :confused:

    Like it or not, it's considered good manners to bow when you're introduced to the queen. Maybe not by you, so if you were meeting the queen in your own living room it woudn't be bad manners. But if you were meeting her on her territory, then it would be mannerly to respect the local culture.

    When in Rome do as they do in the Palace, or something like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    whupdedo wrote: »
    Because you lack basic manners maybe ?

    either that or he/she is in the 21st century??



    if the queen/anyone else don't bow to you...why would any reasonable person bow to her/anyone else out of manners???


    *this is assuming you view everyone as equal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Candie wrote: »
    Like it or not, it's considered good manners to bow when you're introduced to the queen. Maybe not by you, so if you were meeting the queen in your own living room it woudn't be bad manners. But if you were meeting her on her territory, then it would be mannerly to respect the local culture.

    When in Rome do as they do in the Palace, or something like that.
    Hahaha come on.

    Manners my ass, they are people same as you or me.

    I'd have a shake of the hand no problem at all, that is manners, bowing is not.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Since when is bowing considered basic manners? :confused:

    What candie said in post 28, she put it way more eloquently than I ever could, thanks candie :D


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