Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

jonneymendoza · 25-03-2014 12:26PM

Looper007 wrote: »

Are you sure you are a Arsenal Fan Tayto?
The only thing you like to do is complain and complain. Part of me thinks you like to see Arsenal get beat so you can have a good moan about Wenger.

I know you will reply that you ain't a Delusional fan but come on, stop moaning and get behind the team.

ahh so you are forbidden to critise your team for playing **** and should just stuck it up and lick wenger and co's behind and treat them as the messiah who you can never question or else you feel wrath!

yea ok...

I am debating whether i should buy tickets to see arsenal tonight but after yesterdays display? not a ****ing chance. Tickets will have to be free for me to go in the cold tonight to see these useless team play.

Yea they may win tonight but so what? doesn't automatically erase all the crap they have produced this season. far from it but i know some here will be happy again and talk about winning the title and how WENGER is god again.

Only way wenger can repair the damage is to win every single game from now until the end of the season

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 12:33PM

jonneymendoza wrote: »

ahh so you are forbidden to critise your team for playing **** and should just stuck it up and lick wenger and co's behind and treat them as the messiah who you can never question or else you feel wrath!

yea ok...

I am debating whether i should buy tickets to see arsenal tonight but after yesterdays display? not a ****ing chance. Tickets will have to be free for me to go in the cold tonight to see these useless team play.

Yea they may win tonight but so what? doesn't automatically erase all the crap they have produced this season. far from it but i know some here will be happy again and talk about winning the title and how WENGER is god again.

Only way wenger can repair the damage is to win every single game from now until the end of the season

I hope you won't be looking for cup final tickets should we get there

TimeToShine · 25-03-2014 12:36PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Don't think he is good enough, I like barcay but his best years are well behind him I'm hoping we upgrade too

Do people actually think this? I've watched every Arsenal game in the last few months and I think he's really, really solid. Cazorla is constantly launching awkward curling cross-field balls at him and never once has he failed to control it and keep possession. His fitness is incredible and from what I've seen he rarely makes mistakes. In fact, most of the time if we get caught out on that flank it's because one of the midfielders lost the ball and he was caught out of position trying to help the attack, it's hardly his fault.

I realize he wants to move but I think he's a class footballer and we could do with keeping him for another year before shipping him out, and in my view the other lads need another year before they can be our full time fullbacks. I can't imagine who you could possibly have in mind who is a potential upgrade.

greendom · 25-03-2014 12:39PM

I think there needs to be a new thread. The let's all wallow in misery thread - Arsenal 2013 - 14. Then I could avoid it like the plague

DenMan · 25-03-2014 12:42PM

greendom wrote: »

I think there needs to be a new thread. The let's all wallow in misery thread - Arsenal 2013 - 14. Then I could avoid it like the plague

We're 3/4 there now! Once a thread hits 10,000 or so posts they are locked/closed and a new one is created I was told by a MOD!

Mr.Micro · 25-03-2014 12:43PM

greendom wrote: »

I think there needs to be a new thread. The let's all wallow in misery thread - Arsenal 2013 - 14. Then I could avoid it like the plague

A good win tonight and a decent performance against City......and then all may be ok again, at least the misery might subside?

Hyzepher · 25-03-2014 12:56PM

I think everyone can agree that the team has put in woeful performances this year - mostly against the rival teams and that hurts more. It also exaggerates our failings and weaknesses more.

But I still think we are progressing.

Despite the crazy score lines against the top teams our defence has become more solid on the whole. We seem to have reduced the times that weaker teams do us over. We concede less against them and i think we all have more confidence in the back 5.

The times where we're all biting our nails on the edge of our seats because we are only 3-0 up with 5 mins to play are gone. Most of the time we feel confident that we can hold onto a 1-0 a bit better than before.

The issues are still there, I'll admit. The stronger teams still have our number and we have a woeful record against them. But that's a much harder problem to solve and will take some good additions to the team and probably a different set of tactics from AW.

But I have faith that we can overcome that issue as well

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 12:56PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

A good win tonight and a decent performance against City......and then all may be ok again, at least the misery might subside?

I actually agree with this.

Unfortunately that has also happened for years and we will again paper over the cracks. Until the next flop that is.

greendom · 25-03-2014 01:01PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I actually agree with this.

Unfortunately that has also happened for years and we will again paper over the cracks. Until the next flop that is.

Well maybe the losses are the cracks and the wins smooth perfectly laid plaster. Not sure what the draws are ?

Mickeroo · 25-03-2014 01:02PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I actually agree with this.

Unfortunately that has also happened for years and we will again paper over the cracks. Until the next flop that is.

Fair enough if we won tonight it might paper over the cracks, but beating City? I would be more inclined to see that as a sign they might finally be learning from their mistakes even if it is at home.

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 01:04PM

What I will say is if lads can't have a moan after were hammered 6-0 when can they

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 01:06PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Fair enough if we won tonight it might paper over the cracks, but beating City? I would be more inclined to see that as a sign they might finally be learning from their mistakes even if it is at home.

If we win tonight and again at city I'm inclined to think we might win the league
The hammering is clouding people's judgment
We're still right in the mix

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 01:07PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Fair enough if we won tonight it might paper over the cracks, but beating City? I would be more inclined to see that as a sign they might finally be learning from their mistakes even if it is at home.

Let's beat Swansea first though before we even think of beating City.
The City game will be very difficult but I expect us to get a point. They have to win so won't park the bus as they did a few years ago.

greendom · 25-03-2014 01:09PM

emergingstar wrote: »

What I will say is if lads can't have a moan after were hammered 6-0 when can they

I don't mind a moan. I don't think there was a single supporter who was happy with Saturday's performance. But that's gone now and I want to look forward and see where improvements can be made rather than the everything is s**t attitude

Colonialboy · 25-03-2014 01:11PM

greendom wrote: »

I think there needs to be a new thread. The let's all wallow in misery thread - Arsenal 2013 - 14. Then I could avoid it like the plague

Or start a new thread. call it the
YOU CAN ONLY SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT WENGER AND CANNOT CRITICISE ARSENAL PERFORMANCES WHEN THEY LOSE 6-0

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 01:13PM

greendom wrote: »

I don't mind a moan. I don't think there was a single supporter who was happy with Saturday's performance. But that's gone now and I want to look forward and see where improvements can be made rather than the everything is s**t attitude

Improvements can only be made at Board and Managerial level.
Spending big money on good players and changing rubbish tactics for big matches.
I personally do not see much changing over the summer. We'll be here on the last day waiting in hope for news just like every other year.

Funny I could have posted that every other year for a decade.
But maybe this year. You never know.:p

greendom · 25-03-2014 01:14PM

Colonialboy wrote: »

Or start a new thread. call it the
YOU CAN ONLY SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT WENGER AND CANNOT CRITICISE ARSENAL PERFORMANCES WHEN THEY LOSE 6-0

No that would be as daft as some of the nihilistic posts on display here.

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 01:15PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Improvements can only be made at Board and Managerial level.
Spending big money on good players and changing rubbish tactics for big matches.
I personally do not see much changing over the summer. We'll be here on the last day waiting in hope for news just like every other year.

Funny I could have posted that every other year for a decade.
But maybe this year. You never know.:p

We win our next two games, I think we will win the league

ronjo · 25-03-2014 01:32PM

Arsenals points totals in the last 3 seasons are

10/11 68
11/12 70
12/13 73

Despite having our arses handed to us a few times this season we are well on the way to improving our tally for the THIRD year in a row.
We also have a great chance of winning the FA Cup for the first time in 9 years.

Is this not progress? What say you naysayers?

wawaman · 25-03-2014 01:55PM

emergingstar wrote: »

We win our next two games, I think we will win the league

Can you honestly see us winning all our games until the end of the season? Because thats what it would take to give a chance at the league. Give me 3rd and the cup now and i will bite your hand off

Marty McFly · 25-03-2014 02:00PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Improvements can only be made at Board and Managerial level.
Spending big money on good players and changing rubbish tactics for big matches.
I personally do not see much changing over the summer. We'll be here on the last day waiting in hope for news just like every other year.

Funny I could have posted that every other year for a decade.
But maybe this year. You never know.:p

Even last year when we signed Ozil? People seem to act like last summer never happened yes it was a bit of clusterfcuk of a summer but in the end we signed Ozil a player with a huge reputation and broke our wage structure to do so and since then we have tied down all our promising and improved players down to long term contracts.

If you can't see that as a progress then I really don't know you can't really have said it for every other year this decade

.

We all know were the problem lies our defence is solid what happens in big games is our midfield gets exposed and leaves the defence open to getting destroyed. We badly badly need an upgrade on Arteta he just isn't up to it and I think Wenger knows this otherwise he wouldn't have been in for Bender last summer and I think like last years its an area he will target to strengthen.

Along with a CF and possibly a winger, maybe also some defensive cover is some players leave.

farna_boy · 25-03-2014 02:03PM

Colonialboy wrote: »

Or start a new thread. call it the
YOU CAN ONLY SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT WENGER AND CANNOT CRITICISE ARSENAL PERFORMANCES WHEN THEY LOSE 6-0

I think "The Arsenal Supporters Thread" has a better ring to it and might be more appropriate

Gringo180 · 25-03-2014 02:05PM

There is no doubt in my mind that we have progressed this season. But we need to build on this in the summer and bring in 4 real quality players, players with a bit of steel as I think we have too many soft players in the squad. I think the boss needs to be improve on his tactics too and stop being so gun ho in away games against the top sides.

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 02:09PM

wawaman wrote: »

Can you honestly see us winning all our games until the end of the season? Because thats what it would take to give a chance at the league. Give me 3rd and the cup now and i will bite your hand off

If we beat city yes I can

Do I think we will beat city prob not

HazDanz · 25-03-2014 02:12PM

Looking forward to tonight. Let's get going again and appreciate the improvements made so far this season.

FA cup a distinct possibility and a higher points total this season. I think we are snowballing towards a title winning team. We just need to keep layering up with quality players (DM/STRIKER) and keep this team spirit up.

Mickeroo · 25-03-2014 02:12PM

Even if we won all our games, highly highly unlikely, we'd still need a massive dose of luck. Liverpool would have to draw their games against Chelsea/City and City and Chelsea would have to lose another game besides.

25-03-2014 02:14PM

Colonialboy wrote: »

Or start a new thread. call it the
YOU CAN ONLY SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT WENGER AND CANNOT CRITICISE ARSENAL PERFORMANCES WHEN THEY LOSE 6-0

I don't get it.

We all criticised.

But most of us got over it.

That's football. In the season, there's always another game.

If last Saturdays game was the last game of the season and all we had to do was not concede 6 goals to either win the league or get fourth place, I'd be right there with ye criticising the sh*t out of the team. But it wasn't.

Build a bridge and get over it already.

COYG

25-03-2014 02:17PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Even if we won all our games, highly highly unlikely, we'd still need a massive dose of luck. Liverpool would have to draw their games against Chelsea/City and City and Chelsea would have to lose another game besides.

Like Villa or Sunderland?

(tbf, I really had to go back a while to see the last time City lost in the league. Definite reason they're favourites for the title)

gosplan · 25-03-2014 02:18PM

You can absolutely criticise, and it's important to but the rational criticisim is that Wenger is approaching big games with the wrong tactics and there's something serious wrong with the mentality and spirit of the team on these occasions.

bad2dabone · 25-03-2014 02:24PM

3rd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 3rd, 4th, 3rd, 4th, 3rd, 4th

Average manager.

(he's defo flawed - infuriatingly so - but not average)

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