Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

24-03-2014 10:50PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

You know or should know that is not true.

Which bit?

Soups123 · 24-03-2014 10:54PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They need about £30million in cash reserves, they've got an awful lot more than that and have for a while.

So why don't you just post this all the time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx5n21zHPm8

Great movie, I enjoyed it more than kids.

I watch a game get disappointed might carry it into the next day if it's a biggie. But that's it move on to the next game I would love to win every week and more frequent than we have but that's not going to change no matter how much I moan

I'm the exact same with my own Saturday team, it's sport

CatInABox · 24-03-2014 10:59PM

Emirates sponsorship went from 5.5 million a year to 30 million a year for 5 years, in 2012.

Puma replaced Nike, going from 8 million(or so, 55 million was paid up front on a ten year, 130 million deal)a year to 30 million a year, for 5 years.

These were good deals at the time, but everything changed soon after signing them.

Colonialboy · 24-03-2014 11:01PM

Anyone see Alan Smith on Sky sports talking about Wengers tactics.
He reckons he gets the tactics wrong for the big games against top teams. Reckons we are far too open from the off, should hold things tight.

tayto lover · 24-03-2014 11:04PM

Colonialboy wrote: »

Anyone see Alan Smith on Sky sports talking about Wengers tactics.
He reckons he gets the tactics wrong for the big games against top teams. Reckons we are far too open from the off, should hold things tight.

A lot of posters said that even before the Chelsea game.
I'd say Morinho smiled when he saw how we were set up.

gosplan · 24-03-2014 11:27PM

jonneymendoza wrote: »

nope its others here so i used walcott as a bait for you to see what people will say.

So what is it then?

Rotate players because they are relaly tired or are players lazy?

Which one?if they are tired and wenger doesnt rotate then that is yet another reason why wenger is an average manager

You really don't have a clue and quite frankly are an awful supporter. Not for your dissenting voice but rather your rediculous statements, lack of rationality and simplistic reactionary thoughts.

But before you have a go at me, which you're probably entitled to do now, can you please name the 9-10 managers better and worse than Mr Average.

Mr.Micro · 24-03-2014 11:32PM

People predicting 2-0 and 3-0. Not so sure about that. There are a few goals in Swansea IMO. Could be very close or a draw. I stuck my neck out the other day to suggest a draw against Chelsea,lol. Just shows how wrong one can be.

bad2dabone · 24-03-2014 11:32PM

i propose the Lego song be adopted as the Official Song of the thread.

for both sides of the argument.

gosplan · 24-03-2014 11:34PM

Colonialboy wrote: »

Anyone see Alan Smith on Sky sports talking about Wengers tactics.
He reckons he gets the tactics wrong for the big games against top teams. Reckons we are far too open from the off, should hold things tight.

Defo. Need a DMF and to focus on duties without the ball for the first 15-20 mins.

It's interesting to me that the City away game was very different from the other two. We had a go and really made a match of it. Fought to claw it back to 3-2 and then they scored straight away. It was still just 4-2 till the 88th min and ten all hell broke loose, including us being robbed a couple of times. It was swashbuckling and naive but better than the horror shows against Liverpool and Chelsea.

I really think that sending that team out to attack Chelsea from the off was a terrible move by Wenger. I've seen some people say 'well if Giroud's early chance went in, then...' but how often do Mourhino's Chelsea concede early in huge games at home.

Hopefully he'll learn from it. I don't think the team believed the other day. I think they might have believed in not conceding for the first 45 and then taking it from there.

omega man · 24-03-2014 11:37PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

i propose the Lego song be adopted as the Official Song of the thread.

for both sides of the argument.

"Everything is cool when you're part of a team" :pac:

COYG

Pudders · 24-03-2014 11:40PM

Going tomorrow evening but worried what will happen if Swansea take the lead.

Unfortunately there is a significant vocal minority at the ground who definitely want Wenger out and get on the team very quickly when things go wrong. In all honesty the significant minority could even be a majority as of the 30 or so season ticket holders I know, I can only name about 5including myself who want Wenger to stay on. The dissent has been growing significantly the last few years.

Whilst a lot on here don't like what jonneymendoza is posting, he actuals reflects the attitude and views of an awful lot of people I know who still have season tickets or have given them up in recent years.

My view, give Wenger the chance to spend the money this summer. If he doesn't then he needs to go. The drubbings have been embarrassing - the pubs in fins bury park emptied before half time on Saturday. But we're still in the cup. I got my semi ticket today. A trophy is a trophy. Let's focus on the fa cup and securing 4th and move on.

enfant terrible · 24-03-2014 11:50PM

CatInABox wrote: »

Ahhh... I can't find it in a reasonable time frame, sorry.

I had thought that is was either the FT or SwissRamble that had it, but I can't see it on either.

SwissRamble, by the way, has great articles on the financial side of the club, and talk about our massive cash pile.

See here.

I have been following our financials too since moving to the Emirates on swiss ramble and others and never remember hearing talk of us nearly going into administration.

greendom · 25-03-2014 12:06AM

Kos to miss a couple of weeks. That's a big blow. Hopefully TV can slot in and perform as well...

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/24/arsenal-laurent-koscielny-arsene-wenger-swansea

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 12:14AM

Did anyone see Wenger's statement after Saturday's match? Here's an extract -

Yet Wenger, having seen his team already ship six goals at Manchester City and five at Liverpool, was left dismayed at their latest capitulation and the onus is on his players to muster a recovery.

"The response has always been very strong and I'm convinced it will be again," he said. "You have to put that into perspective, we just came out of two convincing results at Bayern Munich and at Tottenham with a very solid defensive performance so you have to think that was an accident. How do you deal with the accident? You repair them, you repair the damage and you go for the next one.

"It's back to basics. An accident has happened. That doesn't mean that you're not a good driver.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/24/arsenal-laurent-koscielny-arsene-wenger-swansea

I can't understand this at all.
What happened after the first and second crashes?
If that happened to a driver he'd be off the road.

Paleface · 25-03-2014 12:15AM

greendom wrote: »

Kos to miss a couple of weeks. That's a big blow. Hopefully TV can slot in and perform as well...

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/24/arsenal-laurent-koscielny-arsene-wenger-swansea

More bad news. The club really needs a good news story ASAP.

wonga77 · 25-03-2014 12:24AM

I haven't followed his progress this year but I really wish we had signed gustavo last summer

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 12:30AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Did anyone see Wenger's statement after Saturday's match? Here's an extract -

Yet Wenger, having seen his team already ship six goals at Manchester City and five at Liverpool, was left dismayed at their latest capitulation and the onus is on his players to muster a recovery.

"The response has always been very strong and I'm convinced it will be again," he said. "You have to put that into perspective, we just came out of two convincing results at Bayern Munich and at Tottenham with a very solid defensive performance so you have to think that was an accident. How do you deal with the accident? You repair them, you repair the damage and you go for the next one.

"It's back to basics. An accident has happened. That doesn't mean that you're not a good driver.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/24/arsenal-laurent-koscielny-arsene-wenger-swansea

I can't understand this at all.
What happened after the first and second crashes?
If that happened to a driver he'd be off the road.

We're playing again tomorrow he can't really come out and say I'm shît the players are shît my tactics are shît

I'd say what was said behind closed doors was different to what's been said in the media

Spanish Johnny · 25-03-2014 02:09AM

gosplan wrote: »

Defo. Need a DMF and to focus on duties without the ball for the first 15-20 mins.

It's interesting to me that the City away game was very different from the other two. We had a go and really made a match of it. Fought to claw it back to 3-2 and then they scored straight away. It was still just 4-2 till the 88th min and ten all hell broke loose, including us being robbed a couple of times. It was swashbuckling and naive but better than the horror shows against Liverpool and Chelsea.

I really think that sending that team out to attack Chelsea from the off was a terrible move by Wenger. I've seen some people say 'well if Giroud's early chance went in, then...' but how often do Mourhino's Chelsea concede early in huge games at home.

Hopefully he'll learn from it. I don't think the team believed the other day. I think they might have believed in not conceding for the first 45 and then taking it from there.

I agree with your point about the City game. Much closer game than the scoreline suggests and not a bad performance. We did show up. Had chances to go 3-3.

Now its being conveniently lumped in with the other two. Also before the Liverpool game we were confident of doing Liverpool. And by following the plan we used at the Emirates. Not too many were on here crowing about defending from the start, etc.

I believe the team viewed that game as an anomaly and hence the naivety against Chelsea. I agree though Wenger got this wrong.

However people lumping in the City PERFORMANCE in with the Pool and Chelsea ones are way off.

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 10:13AM

Would like to see bellerin get a run tonight and we have a look at him

bad2dabone · 25-03-2014 10:26AM

I think Hector is in as cover for Bac if Bac has to move to CB - considering we Only have 2 fit CB’s now.

DenMan · 25-03-2014 10:49AM

Sagna linked with Manchester City.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/371285/EXCLUSIVE-Arsenal-s-Bacary-Sagna-closer-to-Man-City-move-after-turning-down-Inter-Milan

cson · 25-03-2014 10:53AM

wonga77 wrote: »

I haven't followed his progress this year but I really wish we had signed gustavo last summer

He probably would have made a big difference to our season as a more mobile holding midfielder. In the grand scheme of things he would have been cheap enough. A potential Gilberto mark II.

emergingstar wrote: »

Would like to see bellerin get a run tonight and we have a look at him

Jenkinson is ahead of Bellerin right now; and while I know I was advocating Gnabry starting, he is a relatively experienced first teamer compared to Bellerin or even Jenkinson. Lets not forget that even though the title may be gone, we're not home and hosed for 4th yet either, Everton are just 5pts behind us and could quite concieveably be a point ahead after the weekend. The last thing we want to do is give Everton/Spurs/United something to fight for.

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 10:55AM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

I agree with your point about the City game. Much closer game than the scoreline suggests and not a bad performance. We did show up. Had chances to go 3-3.

Now its being conveniently lumped in with the other two. Also before the Liverpool game we were confident of doing Liverpool. And by following the plan we used at the Emirates. Not too many were on here crowing about defending from the start, etc.

I believe the team viewed that game as an anomaly and hence the naivety against Chelsea. I agree though Wenger got this wrong.

However people lumping in the City PERFORMANCE in with the Pool and Chelsea ones are way off.

Ha ha Maybe you forgot we shipped 6 goals then.
Stop trying to deflect and play down sh** performances.
We were dreadful in all three. You don't play well and concede 6 goals FFS.

Looper007 · 25-03-2014 11:17AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Ha ha Maybe you forgot we shipped 6 goals then.
Stop trying to deflect and play down sh** performances.
We were dreadful in all three. You don't play well and concede 6 goals FFS.

Are you sure you are a Arsenal Fan Tayto?
The only thing you like to do is complain and complain. Part of me thinks you like to see Arsenal get beat so you can have a good moan about Wenger.

I know you will reply that you ain't a Delusional fan but come on, stop moaning and get behind the team.

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 11:26AM

Looper007 wrote: »

Are you sure you are a Arsenal Fan Tayto?
The only thing you like to do is complain and complain. Part of me thinks you like to see Arsenal get beat so you can have a good moan about Wenger.

I know you will reply that you ain't a Delusional fan but come on, stop moaning and get behind the team.

I expected better from you Looper.
Not pointing out flaws and playing down rubbish performances will win us nothing.
OK then I'll start.

We conceded 17 goals in 3 away games against our top rivals BUT sure we played great. Happy now?

"We're going to win the league, we're going to win the league"

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 11:40AM

DenMan wrote: »

Sagna linked with Manchester City.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/371285/EXCLUSIVE-Arsenal-s-Bacary-Sagna-closer-to-Man-City-move-after-turning-down-Inter-Milan

I don't think he will go to City even with the money they have to throw away.
They will buy a younger player.

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 11:51AM

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't think he will go to City even with the money they have to throw away.
They will buy a younger player.

Don't think he is good enough, I like barcay but his best years are well behind him I'm hoping we upgrade too

emergingstar · 25-03-2014 11:53AM

Only 3 players in the Premier League have averaged more tackles per game than Ramsey this season. That part of his game is overlooked.

Seen this tweeted, the boy has it all some loss to the team, made arteta look class

tayto lover · 25-03-2014 12:04PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Only 3 players in the Premier League have averaged more tackles per game than Ramsey this season. That part of his game is overlooked.

Seen this tweeted, the boy has it all some loss to the team, made arteta look class

He's probably the only current player who might have made the Invincibles team.
He learned from the mistakes he made earlier in his career too.

Kerry Gooner · 25-03-2014 12:08PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't think he will go to City even with the money they have to throw away.
They will buy a younger player.

Maybe wary of FFP and decide to blow their budget elsewhere

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