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Piaggio MP3 LT licence requirements

  • 24-03-2014 10:24PM
    #1
    DieselPowered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭


    The Piaggio MP3 Trike/Scooter is a tilting 3-wheel scooter first brought to the
    market in 2006.

    It comes in a range of engine sizes from 125-300-400 and now 500cc.
    In recent years there was a lot of discussion over whether you could ride this
    on a Class-B car licence or not. There are no current discussions on Boards
    about this particular model.

    It is now clear that the model which can be used on your Class-B car licence is the
    MP3 LT (LT=Large Thread) and the reason for the car licence requirement is because
    the front track sits at 465mm wide and is classified as a Trike,not as a motorbike.

    The MP3 LT can be imported as a motorcycle for VRT purposes,insured as a
    motorcycle,taxed as a motorcycle but driven on a Class-B car licence only.

    The LT version of the MP3 is identified by a brake pedal on the foot rest
    allowing both the front and rear brakes to be applied simultaneously.
    The non-LT narrow front track version (spacing less than 460mm) can only be
    driven on a motorcycle licence.

    The engine options are quite nice now, up to 500cc without restriction on your class-B.
    The 500cc is capable of over 75mph/120kph.

    Does anyone currently have an MP3 LT model (any size) and can share their
    experience of daily usage? Insurance cost? Road tax, MPG, Lts/Hr maintenance etc?

    Thanks.

    .
    Link to Piaggio MP3 Demo

    300028.jpg
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  • #2
    chasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭chasm


    DieselPowered wrote: »
    The Piaggio MP3 Trike/Scooter is a tilting 3-wheel scooter first brought to the
    market in 2006.

    It comes in a range of engine sizes from 125-300-400 and now 500cc.
    In recent years there was a lot of discussion over whether you could ride this
    on a Class-B car licence or not. There are no current discussions on Boards
    about this particular model.

    It is now clear that the model which can be used on your Class-B car licence is the
    MP3 LT (LT=Large Thread) and the reason for the car licence requirement is because
    the front track sits at 465mm wide and is classified as a Trike,not as a motorbike.

    The MP3 LT can be imported as a motorcycle for VRT purposes,insured as a
    motorcycle,taxed as a motorcycle but driven on a Class-B car licence only.

    The LT version of the MP3 is identified by a brake pedal on the foot rest
    allowing both the front and rear brakes to be applied simultaneously.
    The non-LT narrow front track version (spacing less than 460mm) can only be
    driven on a motorcycle licence.

    The engine options are quite nice now, up to 500cc without restriction on your class-B.
    The 500cc is capable of over 75mph/120kph.

    Does anyone currently have an MP3 LT model (any size) and can share their
    experience of daily usage? Insurance cost? Road tax, MPG, Lts/Hr maintenance etc?

    Thanks.

    .
    Link to Piaggio MP3 Demo

    300028.jpg


    Trikes come under motorbike licences since January 2013 and are restricted depending on which bike licence is held so it depends when you acquired the full B licence as to whether you can ride a trike or not.

    The NDLS state
    "Tricycle: Where a person had an entitlement to the category B full licence prior to 19 January 2013 that also covered them to ride tricycles. They still retain that entitlement. All first full Licences issued for the category B from 19 January 2013 would not have this entitlement and therefore they must take out the appropriate Bike category to ride a trike. The appropriate bike category will depend on the CC of the Tricycle."

    When i queried trikes and licences with the RSA previously i was told "A person who previously had a category B driving licence with restriction code 73 on the licence will on renewal be given both category B and A with code 46. Restricted to Tricycle"


    http://www.ndls.ie/en/Driving-Licence/driving-licence-categories.html


  • #3
    650Ginge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭650Ginge


    DieselPowered wrote: »
    The Piaggio MP3 Trike/Scooter is a tilting 3-wheel scooter first brought to the
    market in 2006.

    It comes in a range of engine sizes from 125-300-400 and now 500cc.
    In recent years there was a lot of discussion over whether you could ride this
    on a Class-B car licence or not. There are no current discussions on Boards
    about this particular model.

    It is now clear that the model which can be used on your Class-B car licence is the
    MP3 LT (LT=Large Thread) and the reason for the car licence requirement is because
    the front track sits at 465mm wide and is classified as a Trike,not as a motorbike.

    The MP3 LT can be imported as a motorcycle for VRT purposes,insured as a
    motorcycle,taxed as a motorcycle but driven on a Class-B car licence only.

    The LT version of the MP3 is identified by a brake pedal on the foot rest
    allowing both the front and rear brakes to be applied simultaneously.
    The non-LT narrow front track version (spacing less than 460mm) can only be
    driven on a motorcycle licence.

    The engine options are quite nice now, up to 500cc without restriction on your class-B.
    The 500cc is capable of over 75mph/120kph.

    Does anyone currently have an MP3 LT model (any size) and can share their
    experience of daily usage? Insurance cost? Road tax, MPG, Lts/Hr maintenance etc?

    Thanks.

    .
    Link to Piaggio MP3 Demo

    300028.jpg

    Is this an advert?


  • #4
    DieselPowered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭DieselPowered


    650Ginge wrote: »
    Is this an advert?

    No, I'm interested in one and these are the main features I've searched for and unable to find. I'm hoping anyone else in a similar position will find this thread and get some valid info from it. In recent years the law surrounding these plus peoples speculation has been all over the shop.


  • #5
    DieselPowered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭DieselPowered


    chasm wrote: »
    Trikes come under motorbike licences since January 2013 and are restricted depending on which bike licence is held so it depends when you acquired the full B licence as to whether you can ride a trike or not.

    The NDLS state
    "Tricycle: Where a person had an entitlement to the category B full licence prior to 19 January 2013 that also covered them to ride tricycles. They still retain that entitlement. All first full Licences issued for the category B from 19 January 2013 would not have this entitlement and therefore they must take out the appropriate Bike category to ride a trike. The appropriate bike category will depend on the CC of the Tricycle."

    When i queried trikes and licences with the RSA previously i was told "A person who previously had a category B driving licence with restriction code 73 on the licence will on renewal be given both category B and A with code 46. Restricted to Tricycle"


    http://www.ndls.ie/en/Driving-Licence/driving-licence-categories.html

    Thanks, that's good info, I have a category B pre 19 January 2013.

    [Code 73. Restricted to category B vehicles of the motor quadricycle type (B1) ]


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