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Minister O'Reilly promotes road-rage charter

  • 24-03-2014 04:56PM
    #1
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭


    Is there no end to the health minister's dumb comments? Have a listen to what he said on the one o'clock news today about his proposed legislation to ban people smoking in cars with children in them.


    And as that is from the RTE Player and will expire in a few days, here's a transcript.

    "I have absolutely no doubt that the Gardai will be able to enforce this but they won't have to themselves because it will be peer pressure from other drivers who will look across and see a kid in a car and an adult smoking. They're not going to tolerate that."

    O really, O'Reilly? You're suggesting that drivers, instead of concentrating on the road should be monitoring the behaviour of other drivers? And furthermore should "not tolerate" some of the behaviours they may observe?

    What should be their response? Jump out of the car and wrestle the cigarette out of the offender's mouth? Or just content themselves with finger wagging and headlamp flashing? Should they perhaps notify the police of the misdeed? To do which they might very probably have to break the far more sensible law on using a mobile phone while driving?

    The minister has no business provoking road rage, which would be a very likely scenario to unfold if a legion of self-righteous finger waggers are given carte blanche to show their 'intolerance' of what people do in the privacy of their own shagging cars.

    The man's a fool.

    PS I'm a non smoker.


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  • #2
    Ihatecuddles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    I hate seeing people smoke with children in the car. Saw it yesterday, child strapped in carseat, mother puffing away while the baby is left to inhale it all.

    I always wonder why they give me filthy looks, then I realise I've been staring in disgust!


  • #3
    StinkyMunkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Only scum bags smoke while their childern are in the car, making it illegal will not stop it. The type who do it, dont have tax or insurance anyway.

    I think a lot of these people are actually dettached from reality, who dream up these type of laws. Guards struggle with the resources they have at the moment.


  • #4
    Scotty P
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 ✭Scotty P


    The real question here is: what did the young Dictaphone toting journalist see to the right of the Minister that frightened her so!


  • #5
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Snickers Man wrote: »
    Should they perhaps notify the police of the misdeed? To do which they might very probably have to break the far more sensible law on using a mobile phone while driving?
    Calling the guards from your mobile is legal I believe.


  • #6
    upstairs for coffee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭upstairs for coffee


    So now the state gets to dictate what you do in the privacy of your own car.


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  • #7
    matt.finn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭matt.finn


    StinkyMunkey wrote: »
    Only scum bags smoke while their childern are in the car, making it illegal will not stop it. The type who do it, dont have tax or insurance anyway.

    :eek:

    Bit of a generalisation no?

    I agree that it should be illegal btw.


  • #8
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,870 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Some drivers still haven't grasped the importance of seat belts/ baby chairs for their children in a car and now we expect they're gonna be embarrassed into not smoking in their cars. Yeah right!

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #9
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    upstairs for coffee wrote: »
    So now the state gets to dictate what you do in the privacy of your own car.

    No, it gets to dictate how you harm your children.

    Smoke away all you like on your own.


  • #10
    b_mac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭b_mac


    upstairs for coffee wrote: »
    So now the state gets to dictate what you do in the privacy of your own car.

    Cant see a 1 year old child telling his/her disgusting mother to put the cigarrete out.


  • #11
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    They should ban children, they ruin everything for the rest of us


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  • #12
    Turtyturd
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    upstairs for coffee wrote: »
    So now the state gets to dictate what you do in the privacy of your own car.

    If you're ignorant /stupid enough to smoke in the car with your kids in it they should probably make most of your decisions for you.


  • #13
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    upstairs for coffee wrote: »
    privacy
    A strange term to use for something in which everyone can see you from all directions and had an ID stuck on the front and back.


  • #14
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    I wonder if I start throwing disapproving glances at Reilly's stomach, will he stop eating so many pies? I doubt it.


  • #15
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Lenin Skynard wrote: »
    I wonder if I start throwing disapproving glances at Reilly's stomach, will he stop eating so many pies? I doubt it.

    If him eating pies gives the rest of the people in the room cancer then you fire away.


  • #16
    EyeSight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    it's a stupid nanny state law. Why stop here? Why not have a law for pregnant people smoking/drinking?

    Most people know it's stupid to do these things and don't do it. We don't need a law for it. Small things like this should not be on our list of priorities in this country


  • #17
    StinkyMunkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    matt.finn wrote: »
    :eek:

    Bit of a generalisation no?

    I agree that it should be illegal btw.

    I dont care what back round your from, smoking with your child in the car makes you a scum bag by default.


  • #18
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    EyeSight wrote: »
    Most people know it's stupid to do these things and don't do it. We don't need a law for it. Small things like this should not be on our list of priorities in this country

    Just like a lot of laws, they don't affect most people. It's the other idiots that the law is for. If your a member of the group that don't do it anyway then what difference does it make if its against the law?


  • #19
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Just like a lot of laws, they don't affect most people. It's the other idiots that the law is for. If your a member of the group that don't do it anyway then what difference does it make if its against the law?

    If you're a member of the group that does do it, what difference does it make if it's against the law? The kind of asshole that smokes with a child in the car isn't going to stop because of an unenforceable law.


  • #20
    Davidth88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    Jesus .... if I had a penny for the amount of times I see kids jumping around the back seat without belts/ car seats I would be a rich man.

    They should enforce the rules they have before they make new ones

    ( I am a non smoker and hate the idea of smoking in a car with kids )


  • #21
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    mauzo! wrote: »
    I hate seeing people smoke with children in the car. Saw it yesterday, child strapped in carseat, mother puffing away while the baby is left to inhale it all.

    I always wonder why they give me filthy looks, then I realise I've been staring in disgust!

    Serves you right for harassment. Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel.


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  • #22
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭Satriale


    More in his line to watch the road, and not be crashing Fr Teds car...


  • #23
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,828 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Snickers Man wrote: »


    O really, O'Reilly? You're suggesting that drivers, instead of concentrating on the road should be monitoring the behaviour of other drivers? And furthermore should "not tolerate" some of the behaviours they may observe?

    What should be their response? Jump out of the car and wrestle the cigarette out of the offender's mouth? Or just content themselves with finger wagging and headlamp flashing? Should they perhaps notify the police of the misdeed? To do which they might very probably have to break the far more sensible law on using a mobile phone while driving?

    The minister has no business provoking road rage, which would be a very likely scenario to unfold if a legion of self-righteous finger waggers are given carte blanche to show their 'intolerance' of what people do in the privacy of their own shagging cars.

    The man's a fool.

    PS I'm a non smoker.

    No you are suggesting all the above. Which is a fair extrapolation from what he said.

    He mentioned "peer pressure" not road rage. A tad different.


    Be honest. You just wanted a rant.


  • #24
    upstairs for coffee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭upstairs for coffee


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    If you're ignorant /stupid enough to smoke in the car with your kids in it they should probably make most of your decisions for you.

    Suppose you would be in favour of the Government dictating what parents can and cannot cook their children in the evenings too.


  • #25
    RoboRat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    I have a mate who's father smoked all the time when he was a kid in the car, the guy has never smoked in his life but is suffering from lung cancer and has spent his entire life with chronic respiratory illnesses. He is thankfully in remission but its completely down to his father that he will probably will die from this horrible illness.

    People who smoke in cars with their kids should be jailed.


  • #26
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    A lot of the women I see smoking in their car with children in the back will have the breast cancer ribbon on the back of the car

    That must make it ok so ;)


  • #27
    RoboRat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    A lot of the women I see smoking in their car with children in the back will have the breast cancer ribbon on the back of the car

    Just like a lot of cosmetic companies who 'support' breast cancer awareness are also using ingredients that cause breast cancer.

    Actions speak louder than stickers in this case.


  • #28
    Ihatecuddles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    Snickers Man wrote: »
    Serves you right for harassment. Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel.

    Where did I say I was driving? I don't even know how to drive!!!


  • #29
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    893bet wrote: »
    No you are suggesting all the above. Which is a fair extrapolation from what he said.

    He mentioned "peer pressure" not road rage. A tad different.


    Be honest. You just wanted a rant.

    Kind of the purpose of this forum, don't ya think? :)

    But seriously. What sort of "peer pressure" does he expect? Toot Toot? Wag. Wag? Or just the "dirty look" through the windscreen already favoured by mauzo1 above?

    Do you really think that's going to achieve anything other than annoying the ****e out of people. Which is not what you want to do to drivers.


  • #30
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    upstairs for coffee wrote: »
    Suppose you would be in favour of the Government dictating what parents can and cannot cook their children in the evenings too.
    It depends. Are we talking about cooking food with poison in it? I think that's the comparison that you're looking for.


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  • #31
    EyeSight
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Just like a lot of laws, they don't affect most people. It's the other idiots that the law is for. If your a member of the group that don't do it anyway then what difference does it make if its against the law?

    it's a waste of time. The government ignore so many issues, especially regarding health. Yet this is a priority?
    The guards waste enough time on "cracking down" on road offences. I don't agree with speeding or drink driving, but i would be happier to see the same amount of effort cracking down on junkies, drug dealing and anti social behaviour


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