Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

24-03-2014 03:37PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

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I'll admit that I'm argumentative, you on the other hand seem to have to get the last word in and be seen gliding serenely off. Hilarious stuff.

Alfred Borden · 24-03-2014 03:39PM

I think all this Wenger talk should be left until the end of the season. 8 league games left and 2 in the cup hopefully so we should all just try and get behind the team. And at the end if you want him in or out, then fair enough but all this arguing wont help anyone now and will further derail our season.

ronjo · 24-03-2014 03:42PM

Sheepy99 wrote: »

Chelsea fan here, how could the person being asked not be happy with that?
More often than not 80 points would leave you in the top2 around 7,8 or 9 points ahead of the third placed team.

Without trying to be smart, given it's been 9 years an FA cup win is something to be happy about, still hold it in high enough regard myself, and the Prem's big boys still try their best to win it (do you think Moyes didn't try his best to beat swnsea at home in round 3? :P)
Of course champions league is harder but you have to remember how hard it is to get far, let alone win.
I'm of the opinion that we're only in the QF ourselves due to luck of the draw so far and Mourinho being able to grind out results, so losing to Bayern is something to be bulling about.
All in all i'd be happy with a season such as the one suggested, might even get the few of ye off Wenger's back, without that unwanted distraction he might just discover how to get it right again. You never know!

Thats exactly how I feel about it Sheepy.
80 points and FA Cup would be a great season overall for me and most Arsenal fans.
Sure we even won the league twice with less points !

Mr.Micro · 24-03-2014 03:44PM

Raf32 wrote: »

I think all this Wenger talk should be left until the end of the season. 8 league games left and 2 in the cup hopefully so we should all just try and get behind the team. And at the end if you want him in or out, then fair enough but all this arguing wont help anyone now and will further derail our season.

Absolutely right. We have to get on with it and win as many of our games as possible, and maybe the FA cup. Sort out the management in the summer with the team...

ronjo · 24-03-2014 03:48PM

Raf32 wrote: »

I think all this Wenger talk should be left until the end of the season. 8 league games left and 2 in the cup hopefully so we should all just try and get behind the team. And at the end if you want him in or out, then fair enough but all this arguing wont help anyone now and will further derail our season.

You reckon the lads are all huddled around the oul desktop in Arsenes room reading this and thinking
"Fcuk, those Paddies are a shower of cnuts, I am done for the season. Give the fcukers something to really moan about" :pac:

Mickeroo · 24-03-2014 03:49PM

Button, do you not acknowledge the difference between scraping third/fourth on the last day of the season compared to coasting to a champions league spot while having an outside shot at the title? Sure, numbers wise it would appear we haven't improved much over the last 2 seasons but football is not arithmetic, context has to be brought into consideration too and I don't think it's right to say this season is not objectively better than the last two.

Alfred Borden · 24-03-2014 03:51PM

ronjo wrote: »

You reckon the lads are all huddled around the oul desktop in Arsenes room reading this and thinking
"Fcuk, those Paddies are a shower of cnuts, I am done for the season. Give the fcukers something to really moan about" :pac:

Yup all us keyboard warriors will result in more broken cannons :pac:

Alfred Borden · 24-03-2014 03:51PM

I know it wont happen but would love to see Bellerin get a chance tomorrow

extra gravy · 24-03-2014 03:54PM

Raf32 wrote: »

I know it wont happen but would love to see Bellerin get a chance tomorrow

I really want to see Akpom at some stage, Arseblog confirms his recall from Coventry http://news.arseblog.com/2014/03/akpom-recalled-from-coventry-loan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Mr Blobby · 24-03-2014 03:58PM

Raf32 wrote: »

I know it wont happen but would love to see Bellerin get a chance tomorrow

Looks like you got your wish :pac:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20140324/team-news-who-s-fit-to-face-swansea-

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 24-03-2014 03:58PM

extra gravy wrote: »

I really want to see Akpom at some stage, Arseblog confirms his recall from Coventry http://news.arseblog.com/2014/03/akpom-recalled-from-coventry-loan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

He's currently playing with the U21's so won't see him tomorrow anyway. He did score though. Hasn't really got any senior experience so would be a bit much to be expecting anything from him.

Bellerin has been included in the squad.

Alfred Borden · 24-03-2014 03:58PM

extra gravy wrote: »

I really want to see Akpom at some stage, Arseblog confirms his recall from Coventry http://news.arseblog.com/2014/03/akpom-recalled-from-coventry-loan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Tbh id start him tomorrow or Sanogo. Akpom seems to play with a bit of hunger, and has a bitta pace. Really dont want to see the frenchie tomorrow

ronjo · 24-03-2014 04:03PM

Surely there is no way the red card can stand and be transferred to OX.

The ball was going wide and obviously therefore not stopping a goal chance. Red cards for deliberate handball do not exist.

omega man · 24-03-2014 04:09PM

To be honest any talk of progress or comparisons on previous seasons is futile until this season is actually over.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we had a big league finish (after the city game at least). On the other hand I could also see us blowing the cup in proper arsenal style!

One thing is for sure, supporting arsenal ain't good for the heart nor your emotional stability. Glory hunters we are not and if you've stood by and supported arsenal through the recent trophyless years then you are officially a gooner in my eyes even if we all have differing views on the club, team and manager.

So whether it's end of season nirvana or a mental breakdown of epic proportions I'm pretty sure we'll all still be goons come next season. But for the sake of our wives, girlfriends, boyfriends and children etc etc there must be magic pills that make it all easier??? ;-)

greendom · 24-03-2014 04:11PM

ronjo wrote: »

Surely there is no way the red card can stand and be transferred to OX.

The ball was going wide and obviously therefore not stopping a goal chance. Red cards for deliberate handball do not exist.

Earlier in the thread I posted a Daily Mirror ref saying that the red card would be transferred to OX on appeal. We would then appeal OX's sending off and that would be rescinded as ball was going wide.

ronjo · 24-03-2014 04:13PM

omega man wrote: »

To be honest any talk of progress or comparisons on previous seasons is futile until this season is actually over.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we had a big league finish (after the city game at least). On the other hand I could also see us blowing the cup in proper arsenal style!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT SAY THAT..... DO NOT SAY THAT!!!!!!!!
THAT WONT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!! IT CANT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

CatInABox · 24-03-2014 04:46PM

Raf32 wrote: »

Tbh id start him tomorrow or Sanogo. Akpom seems to play with a bit of hunger, and has a bitta pace. Really dont want to see the frenchie tomorrow

I know it's only the under 21s, but he has managed to score a hat trick today against West Ham. More competition for Giroud can only be good I think.

dvemail · 24-03-2014 04:48PM

Akpom get his hat trick for the U21s.
Think he needs to make the step up to a higher level now. Should be given a loan move to a championship team or maybe premier league team next season.

CatInABox · 24-03-2014 04:49PM

dvemail wrote: »

Akpom get his hat trick for the U21s.
Think he needs to make the step up to a higher level now. Should be given a loan move to a championship team or maybe premier league team next season.

He was already playing for the senior Coventry team, got a few starts with them as well. As loaned out to Brentford in January. Not Championship, but definitely useful.

wawaman · 24-03-2014 04:52PM

Chuks Aneke has been scoring regulary for Crewe aswell, but despite what you think of Giroud it would be a gamble to throw Akpom into the starting 11. If Bendtner wasnt so fond of rubbing himself against a taxi he might have been in with a chance of getting game time

CatInABox · 24-03-2014 04:55PM

wawaman wrote: »

Chuks Aneke has been scoring regulary for Crewe aswell, but despite what you think of Giroud it would be a gamble to throw Akpom into the starting 11. If Bendtner wasnt so fond of rubbing himself against a taxi he might have been in with a chance of getting game time

Still really like Giroud, but I do think that he has been unfocused recently. To be expected really, considering what he is going through in his personal life. I want Akpom and Sanogo to light a fire under him and refocus his attention until the end of the season.

In the unlikely event of Akpom getting into the first 11, then that would tell us more about Girouds mental state than the ability of Akpom to be honest.

ronjo · 24-03-2014 05:00PM

CatInABox wrote: »

Still really like Giroud, but I do think that he has been unfocused recently. To be expected really, considering what he is going through in his personal life. I want Akpom and Sanogo to light a fire under him and refocus his attention until the end of the season.

In the unlikely event of Akpom getting into the first 11, then that would tell us more about Girouds mental state than the ability of Akpom to be honest.

Wasnt it reported last week that his wife is insisting they move back to France if he wants to save his marriage?
To be fair it does sound like a reasonable enough request from her too.
His personal life must surely be affecting him.

CatInABox · 24-03-2014 05:03PM

ronjo wrote: »

Wasnt it reported last week that his wife is insisting they move back to France if he wants to save his marriage?
To be fair it does sound like a reasonable enough request from her too.
His personal life must surely be affecting him.

Yes, I read that, and yes, that is totally fair enough.

If he does move back to France to save his marriage, then he'll have regained some of my respect.

Hope he stays on as a squad player though, after we buy a top, top striker of course

bad2dabone · 24-03-2014 05:09PM

omega man wrote: »

So whether it's end of season nirvana or a mental breakdown of epic proportions I'm pretty sure we'll all still be goons come next season. But for the sake of our wives, girlfriends, boyfriends and children etc etc there must be magic pills that make it all easier??? ;-)

hear hear.

I've brainwashed my 3.5 year old daughter into being a proper little gooner. Felt awful on Saturday morning as the peno was given she just looked at the telly confused. I bet she was thinking "Daddy said Arsenal are by far the greatest team the world has ever seen. Daddy's full of sh1t!"

I'm sorry Kid. You're a gooner now. And that's the way it is!

dvemail · 24-03-2014 05:29PM

Would rather Giroud stayed. Would be a good backup striker, but knowing Arsenal we may only buy a striker if Giroud leaves.

Kerry Gooner · 24-03-2014 05:31PM

This thread is a little like the media and goes overboard. Either worst in the world after a defeat or the next invincibles after a victory.

tayto lover · 24-03-2014 05:35PM

gnfnrhead wrote: »

It's funny. Before the season had we been told we were almost guaranteed a top four finish and a very high chance of winning the FA Cup, every single person here would have taken it in a heartbeat. Now that it is happening, it isn't good enough?

At the end of the day we've had a very good season that could still turn out great. It seems some people are expecting 38 wins and anything less is a failure. Top three and an FA Cup would have been massive progress. Top four and an FA Cup isn't a bad alternative. Remember what the start of season expectations were and judge based on that.

I would be happy with that except for the fact that we had such poor results as 6-3, 5-1 and 6-0 against the teams above us.
That would mean that the gulf at the top is getting worse and we are falling further behind the best teams. Never mind their results against the bottom teams, we have no say in that.
Is the gap actually widening instead of closing and what's causing it?
What's allowing it to continue unchecked?
Why is the team not motivated for these games?
Who is at fault?

Nemeses2050 · 24-03-2014 05:37PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

hear hear.

I've brainwashed my 3.5 year old daughter into being a proper little gooner. Felt awful on Saturday morning as the peno was given she just looked at the telly confused. I bet she was thinking "Daddy said Arsenal are by far the greatest team the world has ever seen. Daddy's full of sh1t!"

I'm sorry Kid. You're a gooner now. And that's the way it is!

My little one hasn't reached that stage yet, she can only tell daddy is watchin foofall

tayto lover · 24-03-2014 05:37PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

This news has lifted my spirits somewhat. Hearing some people in here calling for the managers head at this point in time is ridiculous, he has had his hands tied financially the last 8 seasons and although we haven't won anything in a good while personally I think he has done a fantastic job giving the circumstances. If there is anybody I want and think deserves to spent the big bucks available now its Wenger, he has his faults but I believe he is the man to take us to the next level. Roll on tomorrow night I feel Swansea are going to feel the wrath after Saturdays shocker!!!!

How often were we told he had 70 million, 100 million etc to spend by Kronke?
Someone is lying or else Wenger is refusing to spend the money.

tayto lover · 24-03-2014 05:39PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

You could say you are over simplifying it by reducing it to a points total, this year we have done well in the cup, are in a better position in the league. Have seen the arival of Ozil the emergence of Ramsey and Chamberlain has also come on showing more and what we can expect along with the emregence of Gnabry. Flamini was a solid addition. Szcez along with Merts have both silenced there critics.

Were still not quite there but to say we haven't improved is farcical imo.

Have we improved against the 3 teams above us though?

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