no difference in UPC upgrade

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 12:55PM #1

my bill said i got upgraded from 50mb to 120mb for free. so i unplugged my router and did a speedtest. im still getting the same download.....36mb ish but my upload went from 5mb ish to 8mb ish....how come my download didnt improve? i would have expected about 80mb seing as im apparently on 120mb now?

ive the epc3925 bridged with a netgear router because my 3925 had crap signal and would drop out alot.

maybe the speed will improve later?

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 01:01PM

my upc account says im on 120mb then also only 50mb :S

ED E · 21-03-2014 01:30PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

but my upload went from 5mb ish to 8mb ish....how come my download didnt improve?

If you're seeing the 8Mb upload then you're on 120Mb. Wireless is too slow so you cant utilize your download. Connect with gigabit ethernet and you'll see 90-120Mb down.

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 04:02PM

ED E wrote: »

If you're seeing the 8Mb upload then you're on 120Mb. Wireless is too slow so you cant utilize your download. Connect with gigabit ethernet and you'll see 90-120Mb down.

but i use wireless. if i buy a gigabit ethernet and use it to connect my modem to my router will that give me the higher speeds? or do you mean i would have to connect it to my laptop?

OneEightSeven · 21-03-2014 04:53PM

ED E wrote: »

If you're seeing the 8Mb upload then you're on 120Mb. Wireless is too slow so you cant utilize your download. Connect with gigabit ethernet and you'll see 90-120Mb down.

Is that router compatible with speeds faster than 50Mb? My mother owns a house in a UPC area and they have that router. They're only getting 50Mb on a 120Mb line, which I only noticed yesterday when looking at the online account.

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 05:58PM

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Is that router compatible with speeds faster than 50Mb? My mother owns a house in a UPC area and they have that router. They're only getting 50Mb on a 120Mb line, which I only noticed yesterday when looking at the online account.

http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/WNDR3400.aspx i have that bridges with the epc3925 modem. is it capable? in the routers settings page, i have options and i have it set as "up to 300mbps" im not the best in this subject so im a little outa my debt here

ED E · 21-03-2014 08:35PM

Wireless will do at best around 70-80Mbps, often a lot less. Lots of clients go a lot slower than this. I have a model up from yours and my laptop only manages to pull 65Mbps over 2.4 or 5Ghz.

The only way to get 120Mb to your laptop over wireless is to buy a €200 router and fit a €50 chip into your laptop so you can use the new AC1300 standard. Other than that your laptop needs to be cabled into the WNDR.

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 09:41PM

ED E wrote: »

Wireless will do at best around 70-80Mbps, often a lot less. Lots of clients go a lot slower than this. I have a model up from yours and my laptop only manages to pull 65Mbps over 2.4 or 5Ghz.

The only way to get 120Mb to your laptop over wireless is to buy a €200 router and fit a €50 chip into your laptop so you can use the new AC1300 standard. Other than that your laptop needs to be cabled into the WNDR.

i would never expect the full 120mb. i just hoped for a noticeable increase. maybe 50-60mb and i would have been delighted. only diffrence is my average upload speed is around 6.5mb instead of 4.5 now $:\$

bealtine · 21-03-2014 10:08PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

i would never expect the full 120mb. i just hoped for a noticeable increase. maybe 50-60mb and i would have been delighted. only diffrence is my average upload speed is around 6.5mb instead of 4.5 now $:\$

I don't think you're getting that wifi (G) is limited to about 50Mbs (varies a bit) regardless of what UPC deliver...so if UPC deliver 5000Gb/s you'll still only get 50Mb/s over wifi

ED E · 21-03-2014 11:01PM

bealtine wrote: »

I don't think you're getting that wifi (G) is limited to about 50Mbs (varies a bit) regardless of what UPC deliver...so if UPC deliver 5000Gb/s you'll still only get 50Mb/s over wifi

This, 54Mbps wireless G will average around 30Mbps mark. Either your laptop doesnt support N or one of the devices connected is pulling the whole wifi down from N to G.

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 11:07PM

oh ok guys i never knew about that. as far as i know, my netgear wndr3400 IS wireless N. but i could be wrong

maybe its the epc3925 thats the problem? its bridged with the netgear and i cant find anything on google to indicate that the negear is wireless N. but then again, why on earth would upc upgrade me to speeds that their modem cannot deliver?

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 11:26PM

ok so apparently the epc3925 does support wireless N. my laptop specs are 802.11n

so im lost now $:\$

ED E · 21-03-2014 11:33PM

If any of the devices in the house are G it'll fall back to G for the whole house.

MarkY91 · 21-03-2014 11:40PM

ED E wrote: »

If any of the devices in the house are G it'll fall back to G for the whole house.

we have 2 ps4s, a ps3 and 3 smart phones connected.

so aslong as the ps3 and the phones are connected to our wifi, my laptop will never receive speeds closer to 120mb?

that sucks

MarkY91 · 22-03-2014 01:08AM

it seems my laptop is 802.11b so if i buy this from ebay, will i then start receiving my expected results of about 80-90mb?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/MINI-802-11N-11N-WIFI-WIRELESS-USB-ADAPTER-LAN-NETWORK-/221202511501?pt=UK_Computing_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapters_Dongles&hash=item3380b2768d

ED E · 22-03-2014 07:26PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

it seems my laptop is 802.11b so if i buy this from ebay, will i then start receiving my expected results of about 80-90mb?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/MINI-802-11N-11N-WIFI-WIRELESS-USB-ADAPTER-LAN-NETWORK-/221202511501?pt=UK_Computing_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapters_Dongles&hash=item3380b2768d

Thats a cheapo little unit and its tiny so the antenna has to be tiny. Your current chip is using the whole screen backing of the laptop as an antenna.

If you want ok performance go with either a real dongle, or replace your minicard.

Like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-USB-N53-300Mbps-Wireless-Warranty/dp/B005T3TJ2I/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1395516299&sr=1-4&keywords=802.11n+usb+adapter

Or this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Centrino-Advanced-N-Dual-band-Wireless/dp/B00864Q45W/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1395516327&sr=1-1&keywords=802.11n+mini+card Maybe this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Wireless-4965AGN-Network-adapter/dp/B000RFPBQQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1395516327&sr=1-3&keywords=802.11n+mini+card Depending on the slot in your motherboard.

Again, you'll get up to 80 close to the router, if you're a couple rooms away that'll drop off.

MarkY91 · 22-03-2014 09:59PM

ED E wrote: »

Thats a cheapo little unit and its tiny so the antenna has to be tiny. Your current chip is using the whole screen backing of the laptop as an antenna.

If you want ok performance go with either a real dongle, or replace your minicard.

Like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-USB-N53-300Mbps-Wireless-Warranty/dp/B005T3TJ2I/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1395516299&sr=1-4&keywords=802.11n+usb+adapter

Or this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Centrino-Advanced-N-Dual-band-Wireless/dp/B00864Q45W/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1395516327&sr=1-1&keywords=802.11n+mini+card Maybe this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Wireless-4965AGN-Network-adapter/dp/B000RFPBQQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1395516327&sr=1-3&keywords=802.11n+mini+card Depending on the slot in your motherboard.

Again, you'll get up to 80 close to the router, if you're a couple rooms away that'll drop off.

hmm but its getting good reviews online. my laptop is a lenovo z580 and has a terrible wireless card. i have no idea how to swap them or even find out which ones would be compatible.

would the little tiny one not do the job? part of the reason i want it is cos its so small and not in the way

no difference in UPC upgrade

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