Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

Dempsey wrote: »

The semi final is being organized with the idea of it being a neutral venue so DUTD should be getting their full allocation without any issue or interference. Are you arguing that its now a home match for The Rangers and should be organized accordingly??

As pointed out, he did complain at the time and as expected nobody listened because nobody gave a shít until the draw was made. You bleat on about the inept behaviour of the SFA but now want to argue that they would would have worked out detailed contingency plans if someone pointed it out in writing? Bull!!

I think everyone & their dog knew this scenario was likely, either with Parkhead or Ibrox. Those two stadiums were picked for money reasons, the SFA couldnt give a ****e about much else. Dont now pretend they do.

Oh I am not I don't give a **** about his feelings or that of his fans but if the SFA do decide in there wisdom to change it all it will do is prove what we already believe they are incompetent.
Of course they were picked for money reasons in saying that an idiot could have put a proviso in place allowing for this sort of scenario. As for him complaining if he was really so upset he would have complained a lot more loudly then. Knowing he squeaked a wee bit and is now going at full throttle makes me laugh.

The wording simply states they have full control nothing along the lines of what you say you really shouldn't assume anything after all if they are as incompetent as we believe

bobmalooka wrote: »

Ah here first he should have complained when the venues were announced even though there was no way of knowing it would affect his club.

Then when your shown he did complain you say it wasn't enough complaining.

I understand rangers fans have previous grievances with the man but in this scenario there is nothing to suggest he is wrong, in fact he is being completely reasonable in my eyes.

Your response to thompsons views isn't objective at all, the sfa haven't helped by misrepresenting the facts either and are playing to the inevitable emotive response from rangers fans to Thompson - this mess has once again shown them up as a conniving shower.

Wait a minute I hate the SFA but how do you know they misrepresented the facts and not him. He was spouting the old sporting integrity line yesterday so surely it should have made no difference who was going to be involved with Rangers presuming they got there when he first complained, He should have stood up for all these other clubs if that was the case. I don't deny I have no time for the man but complaining only when it suits and not for the overall good doesn't really smack of these two overused words in Scotish football

Lennonist wrote: »

What grievances do they have with Thompson?

The whole fiasco of not reimbursing rangers fans ticket money and a section of rangers fans blamed him for blocking newcos entry into the spl.

TheBuilder wrote: »

@scotDMsport: Dundee United forced into embarrassing climbdown as it emerges SFA got it right over tickets. Full story in tomorrow's Scottish Daily Mail

It will be interesting to see if the Daily Mail actually did some basic journalism or if do what they have become famous for.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Are you still having trouble differentiating between the company and the club ?

I mean, it's tiresome now but if you would we can go over it again ?

We could, but you still wouldn't accept the truth...

Liquidated Rangers Articles of Incorporation state the club and company are the same. The new Articles of Incorporation are from 2012.

If club and company really were different then why was your membership of SFA transferred across? If you were the same club then you would have kept it surely?

http://forweonlyknow.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/incorporation-with-some-smoke-mirrors/

Rangers FC were formed in 1872 … at that point they were a ‘club’. A group of people responsible for the running of the club and …. all the debt (and indeed any profit) that said club ran up.

As the line above insinuates, eventually Rangers FC owners realised that THEY could be liable for any debt owed.

On the 27th May 1899 the owners then sold shares of Rangers Football Club to other individuals to become a Private Limited Company – Company number SC004276. Therefore Rangers Football Club and Rangers Football Club Ltd became “incorporated”. Note the word “incorporated”!

“in·cor·po·rat·ed
[in-kawr-puh-rey-tid] adjective
1. formed or constituted as a legal corporation.
2. combined in one body; made part of.

At some point in the 1980′s Rangers Football Club Ltd floated on the stock market. At this point they became Rangers Football Club PLC with the same Company Registration Number: SC004276

In an attempt to raise £53.1m David Murray borrowed £6m from the bank and bought Lawrence Marlboroughs share in November 1988 and floated on the stock market on 30 March 2000.

This is just a change in status. Not a new holding company. The Club – The Ltd Co – The PLC. One & the same!

This Rangers was the entity that we all knew …. until 2012. (currently in the hands of the liquidators)

In early 2011 Craig Whyte bought David Murrays shares in this PLC for £1. The Company that owned all these shares (remember Club/LtdCo/PLC) was now called The Rangers FC Group Ltd, (previously Wavetower) Company Number: 07380537. This company is awaiting a proposal to be struck off.

In February 2012 Rangers FC PLC entered administration. In June 2012 Rangers FC PLC went into liquidation.

Meanwhile a very astute man had created a company called SEVCO Scotland Ltd, Company number: SC425159 Registration date 29.05.2012. This name was subsequently changed to The Rangers Football Club Ltd. Same registration number.

In an ASSET SALE (fire sale) the above man/company purchased these ASSETS from Rangers FC PLC, including IP rights – this is the Rangers name, badge etc. Perfectly legal. Please remember that you cannot buy history … it is not possible!

This is the reason that an SFA Membership had to be “TRANSFERRED” to Sevco Scotland. Again the clue is in the word ‘transfer’!

Meanwhile on 16.11.2012 another man was creating a ltd company called RANGERS FOOTBALL PLC (SC437060).

On the 27.11.2012 this name was then changed to Rangers International Football Club PLC (company number SC437060). Some Smoke & Mirrors happening here I think!

This company then ‘acquired’ The Rangers Football Club Ltd. (SC425159) and floated on the AIM stock exchange in December 2012. Making it a Public Limited Company.

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So who did you buy shares in again?

You are a different club, you might lay claim to be RFC, but you're not... you're merely a tribute act in the same way that The Australian Pink Floyd are.

TheBuilder wrote: »

I think I'll take the opinions of football governing bodies and people that actually know rather than obsessive Celtic fans with an agenda.

Jelle I don't even know why you bother, certain posters on here are clearly disturbed individuals who would rather spend their time talking about a team that are apparently dead rather than about their own team. This thread has been kept alive by the Celtic fans because the rest of us have all but stopped posting because of the way the thread goes every time something comes up.

Might as well lock the thread mods, cos Bobby, Lennonist and Co are just constantly dragging up the same dull, pathetic arguments every time everyone else tries to talk about other things. It's a farce that we've gone from talking about a Scottish Cup semi final to this same old nonsense again, and as usual it's the same suspects that start it.

At least we weren't so obsessed with cheating to keep up with our closest rivals that we were liquidated trying to emulate them and their fantastic achievements.

Now THAT's obsession!

As for the rest of your post why not play the ball and not the man. If I'm factually incorrect then come on tell me where I'm factually incorrect? I was responding to a question Jelle posed. Fans of The Rangers think they should be above debate and we should accept their lies, well if I'm lying or wrong point it out, teach me.

Its gas how quickly ye jump to the sfa's tune when it suits ye! So desperate to be fooled by people ye dont actually trust. Its comical

bobmalooka wrote: »

And none of that evidence stands up to the facts that bobby posted. Anyways I haven't seen any news today did the daily mail print their story input Thompson in the end?

Seemingly yes I haven't seen it myself as I have been down in Dublin all day at a hospital appointment

This one?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2584841/Dundee-United-forced-Scottish-Cup-semi-final-ticket-row-SFA.html

Sportsmail understands the SFA informed Thompson they could back up their version of events with minutes of the meeting to decide the ticket split for Ibrox – as well as witness statements from Rangers and police, who were in the room alongside United representatives when the decisions were made.

I think everyone knew there was minutes of the meeting taken and that other people were in the room that would an opinion one way or the other. The Daily Mail once again speculates & offers nothing definitive or insightful.

Dempsey wrote: »

This one?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2584841/Dundee-United-forced-Scottish-Cup-semi-final-ticket-row-SFA.html



I think everyone knew there was minutes of the meeting taken and that other people were in the room that would an opinion one way or the other. The Daily Mail once again speculates & offers nothing definitive or insightful.

No idea did you not see the bit where I said I had not seen the article. But do you not find it slightly strange that Thompson has suddenly went shtum on the matter

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Cheers Bobby and Bomba it's a case if yes and no I have been refered to a pain management specialist to see if he can come up with a cocktail of drugs that will ease the pain without me flaking out. But more importantly I have been refered to a Neurologist to see why I have no reflexes and why have very little to no feeling I my legs and feet and down the whole left side if my body. But hay ho it's onwards and upwards I have to be positive about it all

No bother to ya, sure if you can keep supporting your lot your fit for anything

Dempsey wrote: »

bobmalooka was asking about the article aswell. Is it ok if I post it for anyone that hasnt read it? :rolleyes:

They had their spat in public, now they are resolving it in private. Not everyone conducts their spats as publicly as The Rangers do!

You do know Rangers were at the original meeting as were the Police and others.
Your problem is if it involves us it's rangers that must be wrong etc why not have the guts to admit it. Thompson etc in more than one way has crossed the line. One example being his pretense that children wouldn't be safe at Ibrox

Dempsey wrote: »

Im talking about all the other spats in the media between people and the club since its inception.

The guts to admit what now??

Where did I blame the rangers in any of this particular incident. I clearly pointed out the sfa as the ones at fault as they are the decision makers but rangers are happy to go alot with the sfa over sporting integrity because they prefer money over any of that fairness malarkey. Especially since they are broke and taking out high risk loans from their own directors. They are screwing their own fans over, other clubs fans wouldnt cost them a thought. Your club is more like the sfa than you'd care to admit.

Given how riled ye seem to be about dutd and thompson, I wonder what mood the less enlightened ones in your support are in. Maybe it wont be one for kids, maybe there is legitimate concerns here

You know there really is no point in discussing anything with you as once again you have turned a rant from someone into something to be concerned about
As far as our board being like the SFA I know exactly what our board are like
It's funny how you missed the fact that there were other parties at that meeting and they have not said anything either.

Dempsey wrote: »

I havent missed or ignored anything. I know who was at that meeting. It doesn't change anything

And the fact Thimpson himself has suddenly gone quite you don't find that the tinyest bit unusual for a man who believes he is so much in the right about the tickets has lost his voice on the matter after another meeting with his cronies at the SFA