Building Control (Amendment) Regulations 2013

mandy gall · 20-03-2014 12:36PM

Drift wrote: »

Is the giddiness linked to some sort of information you have on SI9 or did you just have too much coffee?!

Im just spending too much time with four under 4!! (My kids) but you know the SI9 were put together in a playschool :rolleyes:

hexosan · 20-03-2014 12:45PM

Mandy you need to relax with the rubbish & nonsensical comments and just stick to fact. Your seriously beginning to undermine any relevant previous posts you've made

BryanF · 20-03-2014 02:59PM

Hexosan
While we don't care for Mandy's coffee intake

mandy gall wrote: »

Im just spending too much time with four under 4!! (My kids) but you know the SI9 were put together in a playschool :rolleyes:

hexosan wrote: »

Mandy you need to relax with the rubbish & nonsensical comments and just stick to fact. Your seriously beginning to undermine any relevant previous posts you've made

this is not your place. No more of this

mullingar · 20-03-2014 03:21PM

I see the UK Government has approved a grants scheme for self-builds.

Typical Ireland - our elected members do the opposite of common sense and are doing their best to kill the sector when they should be stimulating it.

Hogan, are you listening????? :mad::mad:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d645d552-af8b-11e3-a006-00144feab7de.html#axzz2wVq71tS1

mandy gall · 20-03-2014 03:39PM

mullingar wrote: »

I see the UK Government has approved a grants scheme for self-builds.

Typical Ireland - our elected members do the opposite of common sense and are doing their best to kill the sector when they should be stimulating it.

Hogan, are you listening????? :mad::mad:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d645d552-af8b-11e3-a006-00144feab7de.html#axzz2wVq71tS1

Coffee break over for me

The UK Government have even made ex Ministry of Defence land available for 1900 self builds
Shatter & Hogan are ye listening???

galwaytt · 20-03-2014 06:13PM

mullingar wrote: »

I see the UK Government has approved a grants scheme for self-builds.

Typical Ireland - our elected members do the opposite of common sense and are doing their best to kill the sector when they should be stimulating it.

Hogan, are you listening????? :mad::mad:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d645d552-af8b-11e3-a006-00144feab7de.html#axzz2wVq71tS1

...and building in the UK is VAT-free as well.

mandy gall · 20-03-2014 06:21PM

galwaytt wrote: »

...and building in the UK is VAT-free as well.

And they have brill self build tv shows - Grand Designs, Building the Dream..etc
Hogan can present the Irish version 'Crushin d Dream' :rolleyes:

kkelliher · 20-03-2014 09:55PM

mandy gall wrote: »

And they have brill self build tv shows - Grand Designs, Building the Dream..etc
Hogan can present the Irish version 'Crushin d Dream' :rolleyes:

The majority of the grand designs are not self builds, they are all in the main design team lead and the uk has a far better building control and regulation system than we do.

mickdw · 20-03-2014 10:13PM

The more I think of the whole setup, I can't see how it will be insurable going forward. Rates will go up because of these regs. How do you price work when you have no clue of the eventual costs associated with it - assuming that you must hold your insurance cover for numerous years after.
My opinion as a one man operation is that it is not possible. Large consultants perhaps will be able to carry that risk. A small operation - no chance.

mandy gall · 20-03-2014 10:33PM

kkelliher wrote: »

The majority of the grand designs are not self builds, they are all in the main design team lead and the uk has a far better building control and regulation system than we do.

Are you havin laff??? Self builds are what the whole concept of Grand Designs is based on. Kevin McCloud is the Self Build 'guru' in the UK. I think you better watch an episode or two

BabysCoffee · 20-03-2014 11:02PM

mandy gall wrote: »

Are you havin laff??? Self builds are what the whole concept of Grand Designs is based on. Kevin McCloud is the Self Build 'guru' in the UK. I think you better watch an episode or two

I don't think so. Generally there is a building company doing the building with a foreman in charge.

fash · 21-03-2014 08:35AM

From an insurance point of view, I don't really see that much of an increased risk. At present, of you are 1% liable you can pay 100% of a claim- if for example the contractor goes bust.

4Sticks · 21-03-2014 10:34AM

More power to you Mandy

kkelliher · 21-03-2014 11:01AM

mandy gall wrote: »

Are you havin laff??? Self builds are what the whole concept of Grand Designs is based on. Kevin McCloud is the Self Build 'guru' in the UK. I think you better watch an episode or two

wrong again. Kevin McCloud is interested in architecture of buildings and process and in most cases (there are exceptions) an architect is involved, a qs pops up every now and again, an engineer is involved and a main contractor is generally always involved. I have been watching the programme for years and it has never changed. Yes he does have self build projects on it but in the main they are not.

kkelliher · 21-03-2014 11:02AM

mandy gall wrote: »

Kevin McCloud is the Self Build 'guru' in the UK.:

this is a bit of a stretch given I believe the man is qualified in interior design.

mandy gall · 21-03-2014 11:18AM

kkelliher wrote: »

wrong again. Kevin McCloud is interested in architecture of buildings and process and in most cases (there are exceptions) an architect is involved, a qs pops up every now and again, an engineer is involved and a main contractor is generally always involved. I have been watching the programme for years and it has never changed. Yes he does have self build projects on it but in the main they are not.

Im not even going to waste my valuable time with an answer to that :rolleyes: Grand Designs self build Show topic has now ended in my opinion

mandy gall · 21-03-2014 11:23AM

4Sticks wrote: »

More power to you Mandy

POWER TO THE PEOPLE

kkelliher · 21-03-2014 12:16PM

mandy gall wrote: »

Im not even going to waste my valuable time with an answer to that :rolleyes: Grand Designs self build Show topic has now ended in my opinion

there is a distinct difference between self build and direct build and this maybe what you are loosing sight off....

martinn123 · 21-03-2014 12:31PM

kkelliher wrote: »

wrong again. Kevin McCloud is interested in architecture of buildings and process and in most cases (there are exceptions) an architect is involved, a qs pops up every now and again, an engineer is involved and a main contractor is generally always involved. I have been watching the programme for years and it has never changed. Yes he does have self build projects on it but in the main they are not.

There are re-runs every evening on More4, at 7pm--- and 8pm,

I have been watching for the past few weeks, and while some of the shows are some years old, he also revisits, say a year after the programme first aired

In the past weeks, most builds have been self.
Some in Italy, France, Spain etc, and it's interesting to see the Building Control, or lack of
In Spain for instance you build first, pay a fine, and then get your permission, ( maybe that was Italy, don't quote me )
Last night was a huge self-build on the shores of Lake Windemere, in UK, the couple nearly went bust, had a reposession order, but made it to the end, and not an Architect in sight.
earlier this week, the Architect exited, stage left, after arguing that the clients should spend more than they had available.

So it's definately a Self Build show, at least for the past few weeks has been.

mandy gall · 21-03-2014 12:49PM

martinn123 wrote: »

There are re-runs every evening on More4, at 7pm--- and 8pm,

I have been watching for the past few weeks, and while some of the shows are some years old, he also revisits, say a year after the programme first aired

In the past weeks, most builds have been self.
Some in Italy, France, Spain etc, and it's interesting to see the Building Control, or lack of
In Spain for instance you build first, pay a fine, and then get your permission, ( maybe that was Italy, don't quote me )
Last night was a huge self-build on the shores of Lake Windemere, in UK, the couple nearly went bust, had a reposession order, but made it to the end, and not an Architect in sight.
earlier this week, the Architect exited, stage left, after arguing that the clients should spend more than they had available.

So it's definately a Self Build show, at least for the past few weeks has been.

Correct Martin and has been a self build show for years. Hogan, the CIF and some building contractors would love to ban Channel 4 also in Ireland just in case we get any ideas!!

4Sticks · 21-03-2014 12:59PM

martinn123 wrote: »

earlier this week, the Architect exited, stage left, after arguing that the clients should spend more than they had available

Or perhaps they were looking to build more than the budget provided for. In which he he was correct to walk away ( from fees don't forget).
Unless a client shows an architect his full finances ( not suggesting they should ) s/he cant possibly know if a client is likely "spend more than they had available"

sydthebeat · 21-03-2014 01:12PM

martinn123 wrote: »

Last night was a huge self-build on the shores of Lake Windemere, in UK, the couple nearly went bust, had a reposession order, but made it to the end, and not an Architect in sight.
earlier this week, the Architect exited, stage left, after arguing that the clients should spend more than they had available.

So it's definately a Self Build show, at least for the past few weeks has been.

"self build" has nothing to do with an architect being involved or not... its whether a main contractor is involved or not.

kkelliher · 21-03-2014 01:18PM

mandy gall wrote: »

Correct Martin and has been a self build show for years. Hogan, the CIF and some building contractors would love to ban Channel 4 also in Ireland just in case we get any ideas!!

and that ends my imput into this topic which has turned into a overhyped lacking in any facts side show

martinn123 · 21-03-2014 01:20PM

4Sticks wrote: »

Or perhaps they were looking to build more than the budget provided for. In which he he was correct to walk away ( from fees don't forget).
Unless a client shows an architect his full finances ( not suggesting they should ) s/he cant possibly know if a client is likely "spend more than they had available"

Yes, I can accept that,

In this episode however, and its all down to the way its edited, the Architect was urging the Clients to overspend , it came across as she wanted the home to reflect her taste, and be a project reflecting her genius, we saw meetings where the clients constantly referred to keeping within the Budget.
Anyway she left, and the build was completed.

I thing someone on the Production Team, for that show, does not like Architects.

4Sticks · 21-03-2014 01:46PM

That behavior is appaling and embaresing alright

Penn · 21-03-2014 01:51PM

This isn't a Self-Build V Architect discussion. Back on topic, please.

wirehairmax · 21-03-2014 05:43PM

is there any point to this thread any more?

4Sticks · 21-03-2014 05:49PM

Thats a have you stopped beating your wife question.
Any response seems damning.

You could support my effort in my sig link below \/

jonniebgood1 · 21-03-2014 06:55PM

wirehairmax wrote: »

is there any point to this thread any more?

Afterhours -mark II
and has been for at least a month since the topic became more widely known (when it came on the air waves and Joe Duffy).

I feel your request for separate sub-forum would go the same way 4sticks.

kkelliher · 21-03-2014 08:45PM

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Afterhours -mark II
and has been for at least a month since the topic became more widely known.

More widely know or simply hijacked by single pointed agendas with no account taken for the fact that this reg is for a whole industry and not just a single part of it

Building Control (Amendment) Regulations 2013

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