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Ulysses

  • 16-03-2014 07:52PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭


    So I was in a book shop yesterday. I had never visited this particular establishment before. I just happened upon the shop as I was searching for a book, and I failed to find it in either of the big stores(Easons and O'Mahony's). Needless to say this shop did not have the book I was looking for. However, unlike Easons and O'Mahonys, I did not feel a strong compulsion to immediately leave the premises after being told they did not have the book I was looking for. The place is a bookshop in the real old sense of the word. The door to enter the shop is weather beaten and creaks. Signs advertising sales are nowhere to be seen. It is all about the books in this establishment, turning a profit seems almost an afterthought. The word that stuck in my mind was "character", the place has character. I resolved to browse around the shop for awhile. Finding a section seemingly dedicated to Irish classics, I thumbed through a few different titles. Then, I spotted out of the corner of my eye a book hidden at the back of the bookshelf. I felt I knew what book it was going to be before seeing it. "Ulysses, James Joyce." It is a book which I have heard much about but always considered to be one book I was destined never to read. The reason for this being I generally buy most of my books on amazon and download them to my Kindle, so as such I would have been avoiding this book, considering it beyond what I would be capable of reading. But here it was, in my hands in front of me, enticing yet aloof. I began to think that perhaps this was a sign of some sort, that maybe I was supposed to happen across this book, in this brilliantly obscure bookshop.
    I then thought back on the words my leaving cert English teacher had spoken one day 2 years ago when we were discussing Shakespeare's "Macbeth." "Some of you believe that this is as complex as the language gets. Ulysses, that's all I'll say. If your mad enough, try to read it someday."
    No price was displayed on the book, so I asked the shopkeeper what the price of the book was.(Being a college student this would be important.) "2.50 or something close." I was delighted with this, thinking it would be closer to a tenner. I told him I'd take it, he gave me a furtive smile, wrapped book with care bordering on the devotional and simple said " Best of luck." I had never heard those words from a shopkeeper but he didn't say it in a condescending way, he seemed to really be hoping that I would manage to finish it.
    So a day later here I am, feeling daunted looking at Ulysses in the corner of the room. I suppose I'm looking for encouragement, your experience with reading the book, or any thoughts really. I'm not a voracious reader, I don't really have the time with college and and work at the weekend. But I do enjoy reading, and generally consume books very quickly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    I see it's influencing your writing style already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Did the shopkeeper look like this? Certainly sounds like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Archeron


    I never understood why there was a room full of what looked like dead people all floating up near the ceiling and then towards the end, some big old roman god would appear in space and seem to be really pissed off for no particular reason. I really liked the little red robot but the little blue alien girl creeped me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Tis a big boat alright


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Mariasofia


    I finished the book in less time than it took to read your post. :O :-D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    I enjoyed the cartoon version


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Just read the book OP, and then tell us what you think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    P_1 wrote: »
    Tis a big boat alright

    Ferry big indeed. Yer man Joyce did some job on the inside - who'd believe the amount of cars and trucks that can fit in? Unreal. Unusual name too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    I really enjoyed Ulysses and didn't think it was difficult to read at all. I don't understand why it has that reputation. Naked Lunch on the other hand...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭buyer95


    Ficheall wrote: »
    I see it's influencing your writing style already.

    I'll choose to take that as a compliment.;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 Hunter of Invisible Game


    I am forever buying books and either half reading them, or not reading them at all.

    Think I have an unread copy of The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole Aged 13 & 3/4 knocking about somewhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Whats not to love about Joyce?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    What was the name of the book shop?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Just break the spine in a few places OP, stick it on the bookshelf, and pretend you read it. Like the rest of us.

    I have actually read it, when I was 11, believe it or not. It meant nothing to me then and not a whole lot more when I did in in college 10 years later.

    We had the good Senator David Norris, teaching us Joyce. I vividly remember being in one lecture when he was talking about hansom cabs driving people around Stephen's Green, for 'trysts', and the passage about all the crusty semen on the leather seats after.

    Have you tried 'Anne of Green Gables'?. Its a lovely book. Not quite as unsettling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭buyer95


    It would appear that most here have an opinion on the book, yet the majority who have weighed in have not read the book!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It would appear that the Op's eyes were opened to the beauty of bookshops. It was just his own bad luck that he found Ulysses there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    I tried it, never finished. Might try to get to page 10 soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭buyer95


    catallus wrote: »
    It would appear that the Op's eyes were opened to the beauty of bookshops. It was just his own bad luck that he found Ulysses there :)

    Haha, I'm not trying to pick a fight. For the record, there is nothing beautiful about the slabs of concrete that is Eason's. I have visited my fair share if bookshops, and this one stood out for it's beauty, thats why I mentioned it in my post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Sh1te n onions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Just start reading it, it is really not that hard . Without question one of the greatest reads of my life .

    I was inordinately proud of myself when I read it the first time but that was just because it was hyped as so difficult. Subsequently I read it because I loved it and still do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    buyer95 wrote: »
    Haha, I'm not trying to pick a fight. For the record, there is nothing beautiful about the slabs of concrete that is Eason's. I have visited my fair share if bookshops, and this one stood out for it's beauty, thats why I mentioned it in my post.

    I didn't think you were looking to pick a fight but FYI all buildings are slabs of concrete. Was it because it was romantically dilapidated that you found it so nice?

    In your OP you say that your teacher said that the language of MacBeth was less complicated than that of Ulysses. That's because Joyce knew MacBeth back to front (along with a lot more newer writing, and older too) and his main trick was to synthesize it. Much like a nobody sound engineer these days takes songs and remixes them.

    Anyway, Ulysses is worth reading. But so is an awful lot of stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Ulysses , that is the dirty book where our hero has a hand shandy behind a rock whilst watching some young wans sunbathing in their victorian swim costumes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    Archeron wrote: »
    I never understood why there was a room full of what looked like dead people all floating up near the ceiling and then towards the end, some big old roman god would appear in space and seem to be really pissed off for no particular reason. I really liked the little red robot but the little blue alien girl creeped me out.

    I had a wicked crush on her as a youngfla


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Read Dubliners first ease yourself into it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,132 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    OP, I'd recommend another book... Ulysses unbound, by terence killeen. I read ulysses a couple of times, but it wasn't until i read a companion book like this one that i got the most enjoyment out of it. I had been missing so many references. It really unlocked the humour in it for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭buyer95


    pwurple wrote: »
    OP, I'd recommend another book... Ulysses unbound, by terence killeen. I read ulysses a couple of times, but it wasn't until i read a companion book like this one that i got the most enjoyment out of it. I had been missing so many references. It really unlocked the humour in it for me.

    I'll look into this, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭tiredcity


    Treat it a bit like a very long song and don't get too hung up on what everything little thing means. First time I read it I just enjoyed it for the language itself and then a few months later it popped into my head and suddenly lots of stuff came together and made sense. Think it's one of those books where you can bring as much or as little to it as you want. The companion guides are great but for me that'd have made the reading more of an academic exercise so I'd give it a lash first & if its wrecking your head then read the companion. It's one of those books that always stays with you, particularly (obviously!) if you're a Dubliner. Enjoy the read :)


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    50 Shades of Grey palesto insignificance in comparison to Molly Bloom's soliloquy.

    I found it hard work and ultimately unrewarding because of it. I'm going to read it again but I think I'll get some good notes to help me on my way.

    Good luck OP, if you get through it and enjoy it you'll be doing much better than I did.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    It is overrated in my opinion but you'll be in the "club" if you finish it.


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