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Gardai brought into NUIG over same-sex marriage row

  • 12-03-2014 09:13PM
    #1
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭


    So this happened in NUI Galway today.

    NUIG has a referendum on tomorrow on whether or not the SU should support gay marriage. The Burke family had been giving out leaflets which compare homosexuality to paedophilia.

    Stall was set up to give out their leaflets only for pro-marriage equality activists to set up a stall and a ruckus kicked off. Cops got called and NUIG Security shut down both stalls leading to the Burkes clinging to their poster board for a few hours and a few hundred students protesting them.

    Fairly interesting seeing so many people standing against bigotry


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  • #2
    jjpep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭jjpep


    Most arguments don't tend to be as black and white as this one. Therefore it's probaly easier to get frustrated at people who are wrong and then you end up with scenes like this.


  • #3
    hfallada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭hfallada


    A majority of young people see nothing wrong with same-sex marriage. They cant see why a person shouldnt be allowed to marry just because of the views of others. I remember my friend came out to one of the lads in college. But was a bit reluctant tell him, as his friend was from a tiny village in west Cork. His friend told him I have seen nothing wrong with you being gay, the only issue I have was that just because I was from West Cork, that I couldnt handle having a gay friend. Thats my only issue


  • #4
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Arguing with them makes them stronger I suspect.


  • #5
    Pumpkinseeds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    So are they Galways version of the crazy Phelps family then? Whoever they are, they sound like a bunch of ignorant fools.


  • #6
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    So are they Galways version of the crazy Phelps family then? Whoever they are, they sound like a bunch of ignorant fools.

    Pretty much, like a Westboro Baptist Church in Mayo. With all their kids studying in NUIG.


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  • #7
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Ah, the Westport Baptist Church.

    Caught a bit of this. The parents of the kids were there with the rest of their children (a couple of whom looked quite young to me) and were protesting gay marriage, calling it comparable to pedophilia, etc. These are the same people who attempted to smear David Norris during his presidential campaign, and have crazy pro-life campaigns. They're absolute lunatics. I don't remember the Christian Soc being this vocal and extreme before they came along.

    It was great to see so many come out and protest them though. Some very reasoned debate going on. Things got a bit confrontational from time to time, but ultimately I think it was handled pretty well. They are very much the minority, which was made very clear today. Laughably, Enoch Burke is running for Equality Officer in the elections. :pac: He's going to get an absolute battering in the voting.


  • #8
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Yeah, when I was doing my undergrad, Christian Union soc were a nice, inoffensive group of Ned Flanders types who loved Jesus and didn't bother anyone else.

    Then the Burkes took them over and turned it into Fundamentalist Soc.

    Madness, Ted. Madness.


  • #9
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Oh my god, one of them is called Enoch? Can only be the namesake of this guy.


  • #10
    wendell borton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Whatever slight doubts I had about voting yes have definitely evaporated, thanks to the loons on the NO side, just to piss off the Burkes and their ilke is a good enough reason.


  • #11
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Oh my god, one of them is called Enoch? Can only be the namesake of this guy.
    I await his Rivers of Semen speech against marriage equality.


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  • #12
    saidinmilamber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭saidinmilamber


    Original thread here


  • #13
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I thought we had free speech and freedom of expression in this country or does that apply only to the Panti lovers


  • #14
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I thought we had free speech and freedom of expression in this country or does that apply only to the Panti lovers
    Knew it!

    You're SO edgy! :)

    Yes, they were given a platform for free speech. And so were those who disagree with them. Problem?


  • #15
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Knew it!

    You're SO edgy! :)

    Yes, they were given a platform for free speech. And so were those who disagree with them. Problem?

    Those on this site who won't allow others to have a different opinion
    p.s. I don't give a ****e about the Burkes or their opponents as long as it doesn't mean a rise in the price of drink


  • #16
    B_Rabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭B_Rabbit


    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    Ah, the Westport Baptist Church.

    These are the same people who attempted to smear David Norris during his presidential campaign, and have crazy pro-life campaigns. They're absolute lunatics. I don't remember the Christian Soc being this vocal and extreme before they came along.

    There wasn't much smearing to be done, he asked for pardon for a convicted paedophile using government headed paper.


  • #17
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I thought we had free speech and freedom of expression in this country or does that apply only to the Panti lovers

    We do, they're exercising their right to free speech with their 'interesting' views and we're exercising ours by pointing and laughing at them.


  • #18
    saidinmilamber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭saidinmilamber


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I thought we had free speech and freedom of expression in this country or does that apply only to the Panti lovers

    They were protesting away out on the street for weeks, and people were ignoring them. They had no right to move that protest into the food hall, especially when most of them aren't students. Also, freedom of speech doesn't extend to slander, which is what calling gay students pedophiles is.


  • #19
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    B_Rabbit wrote: »
    There wasn't much smearing to be done, he asked for pardon for a convicted paedophile using government headed paper.

    You should have checked out the website they set up about him, that had little or nothing to do with that. I think it has since been taken offline, but it was pretty much completely focused on the fact that he is gay and nothing else.


  • #20
    sillyoulfool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    Lockstep wrote: »
    So this happened in NUI Galway today.

    NUIG has a referendum on tomorrow on whether or not the SU should support gay marriage. The Burke family had been giving out leaflets which compare homosexuality to paedophilia.

    Stall was set up to give out their leaflets only for pro-marriage equality activists to set up a stall and a ruckus kicked off. Cops got called and NUIG Security shut down both stalls leading to the Burkes clinging to their poster board for a few hours and a few hundred students protesting them.

    Fairly interesting seeing so many people standing against bigotry

    Typical RCC hysteria and hatred.
    Endorsed to hilt by the current pope who has dome zilch to change the official hatred of the RCC towards gays.


  • #21
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I thought we had free speech and freedom of expression in this country or does that apply only to the Panti lovers

    They said what they wanted, comparing homosexuals to pedophiles. A large number of students in the college turns on them. Eventually there was a bit of a debate but with their argument of "ruining" marriage it didnt last long. They got more than they would have given is positions were reversed.


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  • #22
    h2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭h2005


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    Typical RCC hysteria and hatred.
    Endorsed to hilt by the current pope who has dome zilch to change the official hatred of the RCC towards gays.
    They're not members of the RCC


  • #23
    Lockstep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    Typical RCC hysteria and hatred.
    Endorsed to hilt by the current pope who has dome zilch to change the official hatred of the RCC towards gays.

    They're evangelical, not Catholic.
    Catholicism has major problems but at least the Pope says gays shouldn't be oppressed. Unlike these guys.


  • #24
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    So are they Galways Mayo's version of the crazy Phelps family then? Whoever they are, they sound like a bunch of ignorant fools.

    Corrected.


  • #25
    B_Rabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭B_Rabbit


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    Typical RCC hysteria and hatred.
    Endorsed to hilt by the current pope who has dome zilch to change the official hatred of the RCC towards gays.

    Your argument is bullsh!t , the pope has actually done quite a bit regarding the treatment of homosexuals.


  • #26
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    Typical RCC hysteria and hatred.
    Endorsed to hilt by the current pope who has dome zilch to change the official hatred of the RCC towards gays.

    Except by all accounts the family concerned are more of the crazy American evangelical sort than your traditional stereotypical rural Irish catholic sort but let's not let those pesky facts get in the way of a good old fashioned rant shall we ;)


  • #27
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    P_1 wrote: »
    We do, they're exercising their right to free speech with their 'interesting' views and we're exercising ours by pointing and laughing at them.

    Aren't they mad that their campus posters are being torn down though? I remember one of the numerous leftie socs in my time throwing a massive hissyfit over allegations some group was doing it to them.

    I think this SU vote is important though, could really affect things *snigger*


  • #28
    Davarus Walrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Students, gay marriage, protests, lefties, religious nutjobs.

    It's like a car crash AH thread. No. 2456.


  • #29
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    c_man wrote: »
    Aren't they mad that their campus posters are being torn down though? I remember one of the numerous leftie socs in my time throwing a massive hissyfit over allegations some group was doing it to them.

    I think this SU vote is important though, could really affect things *snigger*

    I'd imagine that the only people who really care about posters in colleges are those who have connections with the printing industry to be honest...


  • #30
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    P_1 wrote: »
    I'd imagine that the only people who really care about posters in colleges are those who have connections with the printing industry to be honest...

    They did upgrade from a dedicated printing press company to a campus based, wireless printer solution. Galway isn't a backward hole. Well... it only happened like 5 months ago, but still.


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  • #31
    krudler
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    Davarus Walrus wrote: »
    Students, gay marriage, protests, lefties, religious nutjobs.

    It's like a car crash AH thread. No. 2456.

    Throw in some banker and dole cheats and you got a stew going..


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