The worst kid's name you've ever heard?

Caliden · 12-03-2014 01:35PM

My thinking is, if it makes a good pet name(dog/cat/bird) then it should not be a child's name.

newmug · 12-03-2014 01:39PM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

Eh ahem, and a child's name influences this how exactly?

The same way derelict houses influence house prices in an area, or the way a stabbing in a pub influences the type of clientele that pub will attract. All environmental factors in life, including kids' names, help people to paint a cultural picture, from which they will base their decisions. Normalising names like Shakira, Rhianna, Brittney, etc. normalises the pyjama-wearing culture associated with them names, and the morals and values that culture has to offer. Which is not a good thing. I would have thought most adults would not need to have this explained to them. Even the tone of the thread should give you a clue!

They have it right in other countries, you have to pick a name from an official list. Its a massive list, but still, it keeps a handle on utter nonsensical names like moonbeam, peaches etc.

stefan idiot jones · 12-03-2014 01:43PM

My daughter was in school last year with a girl called Ella Fitzgerald.

Not a bad name, but why would you do that?

dark crystal · 12-03-2014 01:55PM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

My daughter was in school last year with a girl called Ella Fitzgerald.

Not a bad name, but why would you do that?

They probably had no clue who Ella Fitzgerald was. Some people don't bother with all that 'old time' music.

eyescreamcone · 12-03-2014 01:55PM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

My daughter was in school last year with a girl called Ella Fitzgerald.

Not a bad name, but why would you do that?

The majority of people wouldn't make the connection!

Bog Standard User · 12-03-2014 01:57PM

some twat in new zealand lost a bet and had to legally change his name to this "Full Metal Havok More Sexy N Intelligent Than Spock And All The Superheroes Combined With Frostnova."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/12/nz_name/

Lisha · 12-03-2014 01:59PM

homemadecider wrote: »

So... Congolese. Not Congoan.

Indeed yes, but I did not find it too difficult to make out what the poster was saying.

eisenberg1 · 12-03-2014 02:02PM

Bog Standard User wrote: »

some twat in new zealand lost a bet and had to legally change his name to this "Full Metal Havok More Sexy N Intelligent Than Spock And All The Superheroes Combined With Frostnova."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/12/nz_name/

Again?

lilsparkle69 · 12-03-2014 02:51PM

Knew a guy called Fintan... he preferred to be called Fin!

Sir Arthur Daley · 12-03-2014 02:54PM

lilsparkle69 wrote: »

Knew a guy called Fintan... he preferred to be called Fin!

After this episode?

Balmed Out · 12-03-2014 03:12PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Why should you automatically like (or dislike) Irish names simply because you're Irish?

I didnt say you should? I think its odd to dislike all Irish names. I think this is especially so if your from Ireland and have grown up knowing niamhs, ciaras, shanes, darraghs, liams etc etc. If not from Ireland and not accustomed to them perhaps they might sound strange thats all I meant.

jimmyneo1 · 12-03-2014 03:20PM

Have a friend who's 5 year old son is called Phoenix Maximus

She's about to drop another and calling him Ptolemy

There are no words...

12-03-2014 03:24PM

newmug wrote: »

Ah it is though, it influences society in general. We should all aspire to have a scum free society.

This sounds like the Katie Hopkins school of thought on names.

A kid could have what you consider the scummiest name on earth, but it's not a reflection on that kid or it's future.

MonsterCookie · 12-03-2014 03:52PM

newmug wrote: »

The same way derelict houses influence house prices in an area, or the way a stabbing in a pub influences the type of clientele that pub will attract. All environmental factors in life, including kids' names, help people to paint a cultural picture, from which they will base their decisions. Normalising names like Shakira, Rhianna, Brittney, etc. normalises the pyjama-wearing culture associated with them names, and the morals and values that culture has to offer. Which is not a good thing. I would have thought most adults would not need to have this explained to them. Even the tone of the thread should give you a clue!

They have it right in other countries, you have to pick a name from an official list. Its a massive list, but still, it keeps a handle on utter nonsensical names like moonbeam, peaches etc.

The thread is about worst kids names. You are talking about something very specific and your use of the term 'scum' I thought was a little random. By your logic, if I called my daughter Rihanna, she will grow up as scum, and if some scrote calls his daughter <insert acceptable name> the cycle will be reversed in some way?

Maybe I've misread what you're saying, but there's really no need for the dickish 'most adults' comment.

Moving on...

My mother who is her seventies tells me that when her own mother wanted to christen her Maria, the priest insisted on the name Mary. I gather this would have been quite accepted in those days whereas nowadays I think it would be difficult to assert any sort of naming convention for children would it not?

Electric Sheep · 12-03-2014 03:58PM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

The thread is about worst kids names. You are talking about something very specific and your use of the term 'scum' I thought was a little random. By your logic, if I called my daughter Rihanna, she will grow up as scum, and if some scrote calls his daughter <insert acceptable name> the cycle will be reversed in some way?

Maybe I've misread what you're saying, but there's really no need for the dickish 'most adults' comment.

She may not grow up as scum, but a lot of people will make assumptions about her family background based on her first name. Like it or not, it's true. Few employers will take a resume for a Rihanna very seriously.

MonsterCookie · 12-03-2014 04:03PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

She may not grow up as scum, but a lot of people will make assumptions about her family background based on her first name. Like it or not, it's true. Few employers will take a resume for a Rihanna very seriously.

Not if new mug represents most employers :eek:

In my experience most organisations would not judge someone by their first name.

Electric Sheep · 12-03-2014 04:07PM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

Not if new mug represents most employers :eek:

In my experience most organisations would not judge someone by their first name.

Actually several studies have shown that your name can have a large influence. Here is a link to just one:

http://www.thedigeratilife.com/blog/index.php/2007/07/02/name-discrimination-how-it-affects-job-and-career-choices-life-status-overall-success/

Bray Header · 12-03-2014 04:08PM

I work for one of the largest software companies in the world, based in Dublin. Our global head of Legal is a middle class, middle aged, white lady from England and her name is Rihanna. She was hired by my company about 3 years ago. So in summary, you are wrong.

12-03-2014 04:17PM

If someone has an unconventional or plain ridiculous first name, it's a reflection on their parents rather than themselves.

I hate the thought of lists of pre-approved names. I don't think the state should have any say in what people name their kids, even if it means we risk being over run by Moon Units or Aleechias.

Pinkmoon19 · 12-03-2014 04:27PM

I hate a lot of the "new-age" Irish names. I know someone who very recently called their baby Donnacha, such an old man name. I also hate Róan and Matilda.

orangesoda · 12-03-2014 04:57PM

wolfen wrote: »

I hate a lot of the "new-age" Irish names. I know someone who very recently called their baby Donnacha, such an old man name. I also hate Róan and Matilda.

Not exactly new, some old high kings were called Donnchad which i would assume is similar

Pinkmoon19 · 12-03-2014 05:03PM

orangesoda wrote: »

Not exactly new, some old high kings were called Donnchad which i would assume is similar

Exactly - such an old man name!! :P

jonnyfingers · 12-03-2014 05:06PM

Jarvis.

eisenberg1 · 12-03-2014 05:33PM

lilsparkle69 wrote: »

Knew a guy called Fintan... he preferred to be called Fin!

Thats the worst you have heard ?

stefan idiot jones · 12-03-2014 06:43PM

dark crystal wrote: »

They probably had no clue who Ella Fitzgerald was. Some people don't bother with all that 'old time' music.

There is no way on Gods earth that if your name was Fitzgerald or you married a Fitzgerald that you hadn't heard of the only famous person with that name?

Just googled it and there is another one, a F. Scott Fitzgerald. That's it.

If your surname was Branson would you call him Richard?

If your surname was Streisand would you call your daughter Barbra?

Case dismissed.

tim3000 · 12-03-2014 06:52PM

I always hated the name Lorcan. I guess I just associate it with D4, rich hollister wearing solicitors sons.

Or those American names like Chet, Brent, and Brett. Those names sound like wood working tools to me.

Balmed Out · 12-03-2014 07:02PM

53 pages in and Gay Byrne and Dick Spring haven't been mentioned

MonsterCookie · 12-03-2014 07:16PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Actually several studies have shown that your name can have a large influence. Here is a link to just one:

http://www.thedigeratilife.com/blog/index.php/2007/07/02/name-discrimination-how-it-affects-job-and-career-choices-life-status-overall-success/

Interesting read, thanks. I haven't read the studies that you or the article referred to but it's no great surprise that some people will demonstrate name bias. I'd have to say though, that this has not been my experience in Ireland within the last 15 to 20 years.

The suggestion in the thread earlier was that we should avoid certain names to ensure a scum free society, or words to that effect. That is just bs in my view.

Salty · 12-03-2014 09:04PM

wolfen wrote: »

I hate a lot of the "new-age" Irish names. I know someone who very recently called their baby Donnacha, such an old man name. I also hate Róan and Matilda.

My brother (who is 13) is called Donnchadh, and the only other person I know with that name is my age (21). I've never met an old man with it so don't associate it with old men, funny how our experiences shape our perceptions!

Femme_Fatale · 12-03-2014 10:28PM

fussyonion wrote: »

Sinead
Aoife
Ciara

ANY Irish name actually..they just look horrible when written and they don't sound nice either.
Oisin is a particular bugbear.

Eric, Eugene, Anne, Anna, Roberta, Emily, Josh, Jake, Abbey, Clare, Mary, Fiona, Vera...I could go on....

You're including Sinead, Ciara, Eric, Anne, Anna, Emily, Clare, Mary and Fiona - some of the plainest, most unremarkable names ever - in a thread called "The worst kid's name you've ever heard"?
Even the others you list aren't THAT out-there.

I like the sound of "Aoife" but the spelling is just too awkward. I know countless Aoifes and they all say the spelling is a nuisance when abroad. Ditto Saoirse, but I love that name.

The ones I dislike are the obvious extreme auld people names, like Muriel, and the ludicrously spelled/non phonetically pronounced names (wherever they originate from) and Shakira/Beyoncé type names, and made-up ones like LaFondue.

I like/don't mind run-of-the-mill Irish names like Conor, Orla, Niamh, Colm, Seán. And I love the name Aisling.

The worst kid's name you've ever heard?

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