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Malaysian Airlines flight lost MOD WARNING: NO JOKES!

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  • #32
    donegal__road
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    Ace2007 wrote: »
    A sports star playing his last home game is hardly more worthy news than a possible terrorism attack now is it, it that plane had been in America I bet it would have got more news time.

    or any other caucasian country.


  • #33
    Peregrine
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    Ace2007 wrote: »
    A sports star playing his last home game is hardly more worthy news than a possible terrorism attack now is it, it that plane had been in America I bet it would have got more news time.

    Unfortunately we don't know anything about this.

    I'd rather they only said it went missing, which is all we know really, than speculate like some other outlets.

    As for the stolen passports. There were 2 passengers on board that plane that used stolen passports, that's all we know. Nothing to say they were terrorits YET, could have been smuggling.


  • #34
    Femme_Fatale
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    Not usually one for whingeing about what's reported and how it's reported, but I agree it's bizarre that a sports story, even a big one, is considered more newsworthy than this story.
    I don't mind the BOD story being in the news and not just the sports news, but ahead of this story? Don't get it.


  • #35
    Ace2007
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    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    Unfortunately we don't know anything about this.

    I'd rather they only said it went missing, which is all we know really, than speculate like some other outlets.

    As for the stolen passports. There were 2 passengers on board that plane that used stolen passports, that's all we know. Nothing to say they were terrorits YET, could have been smuggling.

    could have been doing anything and hope they were smuggling, but still doesn't change the fact that if it happened in America or as another poster said any other caucasian country there would have been way more news time about it, sure it's been over 24 hours, and how many posts on AH 35?

    Western society doesn't care what happens over there it doesn't concern us.
    How much air time did the Kunming massacre get? - if that happen in London there would have been a prime time special about it.


  • #36
    wil
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    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    This is shaping up to be a terrible tragedy, seems theres links to terrorism now, as two of the people onboard seem to have been travelling on stolen passports. RIP to all the victims of this, and God help their families.
    The stolen passports may not mean much, European passports are valuable to people trying to avoid economic immigration control etc

    Also then there was the near miss by a North Korean missile last Tuesday on a Chinese airliner from Tokyo.

    Strange though that no debris has yet been spotted as you might expect from a mid air explosion.

    RIP


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  • #37
    Peregrine
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    Ace2007 wrote: »
    could have been doing anything and hope they were smuggling, but still doesn't change the fact that if it happened in America or as another poster said any other caucasian country there would have been way more news time about it, sure it's been over 24 hours, and how many posts on AH 35?

    If it happened in America, we would have a lot more information about it, that's for sure.

    Maybe 35 in AH but there's 388 posts and 30,000 views in a thread in Aviation and Aircraft about this and most of them aren't from regular posters.


  • #38
    Femme_Fatale
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    Ace2007 wrote: »
    could have been doing anything and hope they were smuggling, but still doesn't change the fact that if it happened in America or as another poster said any other caucasian country there would have been way more news time about it, sure it's been over 24 hours, and how many posts on AH 35?

    Western society doesn't care what happens over there it doesn't concern us.
    How much air time did the Kunming massacre get? - if that happen in London there would have been a prime time special about it.
    This was the main story in the radio news this morning. It's unfair to say western society doesn't care; I wouldn't expect media outlets in Asia to report on Northern Ireland - or even Ukraine. The Kunming massacre no doubt got plenty of coverage in Asia.
    It's not abnormal to concentrate reporting on what's on your doorstep (culturally or geographically).
    But I agree with you that it's strange for a rugby story to be reported ahead of this story.


  • #39
    Ace2007
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    wil wrote: »

    Also then there was the near miss by a North Korean missile last Tuesday on a Chinese airliner from Tokyo.
    :eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • #40
    Aidric
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    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    This was the main story in the radio news this morning. It's unfair to say western society doesn't care; I wouldn't expect media outlets in Asia to report on Northern Ireland - or even Ukraine. The Kunming massacre no doubt got plenty of coverage in Asia.
    It's not abnormal to concentrate reporting on what's on your doorstep (culturally or geographically).
    But I agree with you that it's strange for a rugby story to be reported ahead of this story.

    It is but as the case exists there is actually very little information available to trash out.


  • #41
    cml387
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    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    This was the main story in the radio news this morning. It's unfair to say western society doesn't care; I wouldn't expect media outlets in Asia to report on Northern Ireland - or even Ukraine. The Kunming massacre no doubt got plenty of coverage in Asia.
    It's not abnormal to concentrate reporting on what's on your doorstep (culturally or geographically).
    But I agree with you that it's strange for a rugby story to be reported ahead of this story.
    The BOD story was just the moment. RTE was right to place it, for one bulletin, ahead of a plane crash in another continent.
    Unfortunately the air crash story will still be around for a few days.


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  • #42
    Ace2007
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    cml387 wrote: »
    The BOD story was just the moment. RTE was right to place it, for one bulletin, ahead of a plane crash in another continent.
    Unfortunately the air crash story will still be around for a few days.

    Should it matter that it was in another continent? Say that plane had gone missing in the Atlantic would you have the same view?


  • #43
    ceadaoin.
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    cml387 wrote: »
    The BOD story was just the moment. RTE was right to place it, for one bulletin, ahead of a plane crash in another continent.
    Unfortunately the air crash story will still be around for a few days.

    So a rugby player is of more interest than over 200 people losing their lives? Bizarre. They will be all over it if it turns out to be a terrorist attack. There are now 4 suspect passengers so that is looking like an increasing possibility


  • #44
    asteroth
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    So a rugby player is of more interest than over 200 people losing their lives? Bizarre. They will be all over it if it turns out to be a terrorist attack. There are now 4 suspect passengers so that is looking like an increasing possibility

    Dozens of Iraqi civilians are killed each day in car bomb attacks. We'll still see their plight taking a back seat to crap about some bimbo's wardrobe malfunction though.


  • #45
    Kirby
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    He has a point. Proximity is king. Brian O Driscoll is Irish. We are Irish. The people on the plane are not. And more than that it happened halfway across the world. If it was a Ryan air or Aer Lingus plane it would be all over the place. It's callous and heartless and all those nasty things but its human nature.

    And before you insist on posting your outrage why is it more outrageous when 200 people die in a plane crash as opposed to 2,000 dying of starvation or AIDS or malaria at the same time? They didn't get their time on the news either. Nobody in here cared enough to post about them not getting news time yesterday. But this is more shocking and "sexier" than that. We are a fairly disgusting race when you think about it. :o


  • #46
    Sunglasses Ron
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    asteroth wrote: »
    Dozens of Iraqi civilians are killed each day in car bomb attacks. We'll still see their plight taking a back seat to crap about some bimbo's wardrobe malfunction though.

    Due to their frequency I doubt most Iraqis could remember where an attack happened 10 days ago and how many died. It is hardly a Western bias. I would safely say that attacks in Iraq that only kill one or two people probably don't even make the nightly news.


  • #47
    NIMAN
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    Local stories and people will always come first on the news, otherwise we would never hear another Irish story on the Irish news again, as there would always be something 'more important' elsewhere in the world.


  • #48
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    To those saying that because it's halfway across the world and not in our proximity it's less news worthy, I bet if it happened to an Australian Qantas flight with zero Irish people on it (as was the case here) it would be much more major news.


  • #49
    mad muffin
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    Previously, on Lost...



































    too soon?


  • #50
    Mr. CooL ICE
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    mad muffin wrote: »
    too soon?

    Yes.


  • #51
    [Deleted User]
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    Considering that it is still on going, then yes, it is too soon


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  • #52
    thelad95
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    I just hope this doesn't remain a mystery forever. The fact that no debris has been spotted or no oil in the water is worrying. If this had happened to someone I knew I would want closure of some sort.


  • #53
    Sunglasses Ron
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    thelad95 wrote: »
    I just hope this doesn't remain a mystery forever. The fact that no debris has been spotted or no oil in the water is worrying. If this had happened to someone I knew I would want closure of some sort.

    It is a very strange case in some regards but Christ I can imagine the Alex Jones fanboys are poring over the passenger lists to bring up some "motive" for this being a government operation as I speak.


  • #54
    Femme_Fatale
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    Kirby wrote: »
    He has a point. Proximity is king. Brian O Driscoll is Irish. We are Irish. The people on the plane are not. And more than that it happened halfway across the world. If it was a Ryan air or Aer Lingus plane it would be all over the place. It's callous and heartless and all those nasty things but its human nature.

    And before you insist on posting your outrage why is it more outrageous when 200 people die in a plane crash as opposed to 2,000 dying of starvation or AIDS or malaria at the same time? They didn't get their time on the news either. Nobody in here cared enough to post about them not getting news time yesterday. But this is more shocking and "sexier" than that. We are a fairly disgusting race when you think about it. :o
    Huh? There's nothing disgusting or race-based about it; if Chinese people didn't hear much about a missing plane in the Atlantic, I wouldn't expect them to devote lots of attention to it. There were news reports yesterday morning here, then it fizzled out because there was nothing more to report; now it's in the news again.


  • #55
    RollieFingers
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    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Huh? There's nothing disgusting or race-based about it; if Chinese people didn't hear much about a missing plane in the Atlantic, I wouldn't expect them to devote lots of attention to it. There were news reports yesterday morning here, then it fizzled out because there was nothing more to report; now it's in the news again.

    It's all to do with proximity and weight, think of the countless bombs that go off all around the world on a daily basis and hardly warrant a mention from Western news services, and then think of the bomb that went off in Boston and how much coverage that garnered!


  • #56
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
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    Starting to look increasingly like a terrorist attack, 2 passports stolen 18 months apart in the same area and both used to buy tickets at the same time. Plane (for some reason) was also returning to Kuala Lumpar at the time.


  • #57
    Peregrine
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    THFC wrote: »
    Starting to look increasingly like a terrorist attack, 2 passports stolen 18 months apart in the same area and both used to buy tickets at the same time. Plane (for some reason) was also returning to Kuala Lumpar at the time.

    2 stolen passports make you think it's a terrorist attack? Without any evidence, not even the wreckage of the plane?


    Why speculate when there's no evidence?


  • #58
    the_monkey
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    Papers saying it could be terriblism now
    Strange the way no mayday was issued


  • #59
    the_monkey
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    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    2 stolen passports make you think it's a terrorist attack? Without any evidence, not even the wreckage of the plane?


    Why speculate when there's no evidence?

    Certainly points to something fishy tho


  • #60
    decisions
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    the_monkey wrote: »
    Certainly points to something fishy tho

    Not really given how common passport theft is in that part of the world.


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  • #61
    Amirani
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    the_monkey wrote: »
    Certainly points to something fishy tho

    Not necessarily. It's a relatively common occurrence in that part of the world by all accounts.


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