Will you eat meat tomorrow

catallus · 08-03-2014 03:09PM

Re-baptised and re-educated then. It obviously didn't take properly the first time!

P_1 · 08-03-2014 03:12PM

catallus wrote: »

Re-baptised and re-educated then. It obviously didn't take properly the first time!

So you're advocating brain washing then? Or would you rather an islamic style offence of apostasy to be inserted into law?

catallus · 08-03-2014 03:14PM

Apostasy, excellent! I knew I was looking for the right word

Yes the apostates need to be brought into line!

Elmo · 08-03-2014 03:17PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I don't work on Good Friday, majority of offices are closed, so it's not a normal day.

Off the top of my head 4 of the bank holiday's are religious Days.

People might decide to take Good Friday off as a long weekend leading into Easter Monday, but it is not an official holiday. And you entitled to nothing for working it.

There are only 9, 4 based around the Christian calendar, 1 based on the calendar, one based on paganism, and the others for the craic!

Non Religious (4)
New Year's Day (1 January)
May Bank Holiday
June Bank Holiday
August Bank Holiday

Religious (5)
St. Patrick's Day (17 March)
Easter Monday
Halloween (Last Monday in October)
Christmas Day (25 December)
St. Stephen's Day (26 December)

And yes public servants had it as a privilege day as they did for christmas shopping and some also had 30mins a week to get to the bank to cash their pay cheque.

P_1 · 08-03-2014 03:21PM

catallus wrote: »

Apostasy, excellent! I knew I was looking for the right word

Yes the apostates need to be brought into line!

What possible harm does people politely requesting that you do not impose your religious beliefs on them cause you?

Nobody is forcing you to drop your beliefs, why are you seemingly attempting to force others to practice them?

mrsbyrne · 08-03-2014 03:21PM

Uriel. wrote: »

And get rid of the bank holiday too of course as well as entitlement for Christmas day that most people have.

...and St Stephens Day and St Patrick's Day and Easter Monday..

Ace2007 · 08-03-2014 03:23PM

Elmo wrote: »

People might decide to take Good Friday off as a long weekend leading into Easter Monday, but it is not an official holiday. And you entitled to nothing for working it.

There are only 9, 4 based around the Christian calendar, 1 based on the calendar, one based on paganism, and the others for the craic!

Non Religious (4)
New Year's Day (1 January)
May Bank Holiday
June Bank Holiday
August Bank Holiday

Religious (5)
St. Patrick's Day (17 March)
Easter Monday
Halloween (Last Monday in October)
Christmas Day (25 December)
St. Stephen's Day (26 December)

I never said people were entitled for anything working Good Friday, I said the majority of offices close that day, for example the IFSC would be a ghost town that day, most stock exchanges around the world close that day.

And thanks for the above - over half of our bank holidays are religious days.

catallus · 08-03-2014 03:25PM

P_1 wrote: »

What possible harm does people politely requesting that you do not impose your religious beliefs on them cause you?

Nobody is forcing you to drop your beliefs, why are you seemingly attempting to force others to practice them?

The debasement and defacement of our culture is promoted by such benign passivity.

At root, evangelism is an act of mercy; to save non-believers from themselves.

mrsbyrne · 08-03-2014 03:28PM

P_1 wrote: »

Not really, quite a lot of people don't adhere to the practices of catholicism in Ireland at this stage and don't appreciate those practices being imposed on them. If you want to abstain on certain days feel free to do so but don't force me to do the same thank you very much.

But who exactly is imposing what on you? I'm sorry but I UST have missed the gangs of Sasi like priests roaming the land threatening you if you disobeyed orders! Who did you imagine was forcing you? To do what? Please solve the mystery!

Eutow · 08-03-2014 03:29PM

catallus wrote: »

The debasement and defacement of our culture is promoted by such benign passivity.

At root, evangelism is an act of mercy; to save non-believers from themselves.

I'm fine thanks. I look forward to this

rainbow kirby · 08-03-2014 03:29PM

mrsbyrne wrote: »

...and St Stephens Day and St Patrick's Day and Easter Monday..

Easter Monday has historical significance - start of the Easter Rising.

P_1 · 08-03-2014 03:29PM

catallus wrote: »

The debasement and defacement of our culture is promoted by such benign passivity.

At root, evangelism is an act of mercy; to save non-believers from themselves.

Evangelism, be it religious or ideological is one of the worst traits of humanity in my opinion. How many wars have been caused by zealots over the years?

Nonetheless it has been an interesting debate, now please excuse me while I go off to watch the rugby.

Ace2007 · 08-03-2014 03:29PM

P_1 wrote: »

What possible harm does people politely requesting that you do not impose your religious beliefs on them cause you?

Nobody is forcing you to drop your beliefs, why are you seemingly attempting to force others to practice them?

I assume you have the view that alcohol should be sold 24 hours a day, has the reason it's not got to do with religion?

rainbow kirby · 08-03-2014 03:32PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I assume you have the view that alcohol should be sold 24 hours a day, has the reason it's not got to do with religion?

Erm, I kinda like the fact that I can nip up to the Sainsburys Local just up the road if we decide after 10pm that we'd like more drink... :pac:

mrsbyrne · 08-03-2014 03:45PM

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Easter Monday has historical significance - start of the Easter Rising.

Only in Ireland. Everywhere else its a christian religious public holiday.believe it or not Americans don't celebrate the Easter Rising. Hell, we don't celebrate the Easter Rising.
What if we change it to the actual date that the Easter rising started, if that's Saturday or Sunday its just tough? The other religious holidays we can abandon. Sure Paddys day is only a joke anyway.
That's it I'm sold. No more looking forward to the next Monday off with pay.
Your seperateing church and state is looking better with every post. For the small or medium business man anyway.

shruikan2553 · 08-03-2014 04:11PM

Glad to see people are up for the idea of forcing religion on others. We should have working on Sunday punishable by death as it says in the bible. Whats not to like, we all get a day off to relax!

Jamsiek · 08-03-2014 04:15PM

catallus wrote: »

Apostasy, excellent! I knew I was looking for the right word

Yes the apostates need to be brought into line!

Now I know you're joking

Jamsiek · 08-03-2014 04:24PM

mrsbyrne wrote: »

But who exactly is imposing what on you? I'm sorry but I UST have missed the gangs of Sasi like priests roaming the land threatening you if you disobeyed orders! Who did you imagine was forcing you? To do what? Please solve the mystery!

From someone on the outside looking at Ireland, it does look backward that religious laws are imposed on everybody in a supposed modern European country.

I don't live in Ireland anymore and I intend to enjoy a pint on Good Friday to start off the long weekend.

mrsbyrne · 08-03-2014 04:32PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

From someone on the outside looking at Ireland, it does look backward that religious laws are imposed on everybody in a supposed modern European country.

I don't live in Ireland anymore and I intend to enjoy a pint on Good Friday to start off the long weekend.

So your just pretending that stuff is being imposed on you and that you are being forced to do anything . I see. Thanks for being honest though.And I hope you enjoy your pint on Good Friday and be sure and tell the locals what an uncontrollable rebel you are.
BTW which religious laws are imposed on everybody in Ireland? I can't think of any?

Uriel. · 08-03-2014 04:34PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

From someone on the outside looking at Ireland, it does look backward that religious laws are imposed on everybody in a supposed modern European country.

I don't live in Ireland anymore and I intend to enjoy a pint on Good Friday to start off the long weekend.

That's really not a problem. No one, at least I'm not, suggesting a complete opposition to changing the prohibition on certain things (like selling drink on good friday). But if it's simply an F U to the church then fine, let's all enjoy our pints on a good Friday after work and maybe some on Saturday and Sunday, tho on Sunday get home early because work the next morning.

I really just can't stand this sh1te of putting one up to the church out of one corner of your mouth while out of the other corner accepting and enjoying the benefits provided such as a paid day off work.

Fred Swanson · 08-03-2014 04:36PM

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Elmo · 08-03-2014 04:36PM

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Only in Ireland. Everywhere else its a christian religious public holiday.believe it or not Americans don't celebrate the Easter Rising. Hell, we don't celebrate the Easter Rising.

Easter Changes each year. The Easter Rising took place between 24–29 April 1916.

IMO the whole Good Friday thing is blown out of proportion. It's one day of the year. Many people will drink in their homes on that day. A day when the pubs are closed each year isn't a bad thing IMO.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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No holiday is a gift from the state or from your employer, it is your life FFS.

Ace2007 · 08-03-2014 04:47PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Is this the same state that bans the sale of alcohol on Good Friday?

Fred Swanson · 08-03-2014 04:51PM

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Ace2007 · 08-03-2014 04:53PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I love the way you use the state to make one point, but then don't accept that they make the rules regarding sale of alcohol.

Fred Swanson · 08-03-2014 04:54PM

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Ace2007 · 08-03-2014 04:56PM

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of course they do, keep telling yourself that....

Fred Swanson · 08-03-2014 04:59PM

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Ace2007 · 08-03-2014 05:05PM

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So now your saying it was prior to 1973, if we go back over 100 years, the Brits ran the country, why don't you use live in current Ireland, your saying that the church/state are practically one when making decisions?

Fred Swanson · 08-03-2014 05:06PM

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