The Hazards of Belief

Bannasidhe · 04-03-2014 04:33PM

oscarBravo wrote: »

Well, here's one authentic quote from him:

/snigger

*Tilts head and blinks rapidly *

Wut?????

PopePalpatine · 04-03-2014 06:20PM

robindch wrote: »

The school denies the report and its lawyer says the entire story is false:

http://www.wlos.com/shared/news/features/top-stories/stories/wlos_school-club-controversy-15319.shtml

I just found this on Reddit, apparently the school alleges that Kalei's father is trying to "manufacture" a controversy.

legspin · 04-03-2014 06:43PM

http://bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-religion-byo-43603.html.

Can't find confirmation but seems likely tbh.

robindch · 04-03-2014 06:59PM

legspin wrote: »

Can't find confirmation but seems likely tbh.

Hardly any weirder than Kazakhstan and Russia recently banning lace underwear:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kazakhstan-lacy-underwear-ban-sees-dozens-of-women-arrested-in-street-protest-9136570.html

Hotblack Desiato · 05-03-2014 10:22AM

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/second-opinion-talks-on-sexual-abstinence-have-no-place-in-our-schools-1.1711300

Unbelievably, talks on sexual abstinence are still delivered to post-primary school students by external agencies. A spokeswoman for an organisation called Pure in Heart was interviewed last week on RTÉ ’s Today with Seán O’Rourke.

Her message was it’s good to be pure and abstaining from sexual activity until marriage is the best option. Listeners, who texted in their views, were largely in favour of chastity education, thought teaching about purity was “refreshing”, and Catholic schools were entitled to promote Catholic views on sexuality. They are not.

Schools funded by taxpayers cannot include abstinence as part of Relationships and Sexuality Education (RSE). The R in RSE stands for relationships, not religion.

Well, then it would be ARSE... :pac:

“All programmes and events delivered by visitors and external agencies must use appropriate, evidence-based methodologies with clear educational outcomes.”

So no YD or iOnanists or assorted loons then.

Waking-Dreams · 05-03-2014 12:10PM

More about abstinence-only sex education here:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/sex-on-the-syllabus-what-are-our-children-taught-1.1677796

Despite best-practice guidelines, schools have no obligation to tell parents who is talking to their children about sex. Getting information on what these groups are teaching our children, and in what schools, can be difficult. In the course of this review of RSE, The Irish Times discovered a lack of transparency in sex education that doesn’t apply to any other curricular area. The majority of schools declined to answer basic questions about who visited to give talks or classes, or what textbooks they use.

recedite · 05-03-2014 05:40PM

robindch wrote: »

Hardly any weirder than Kazakhstan and Russia recently banning lace underwear:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kazakhstan-lacy-underwear-ban-sees-dozens-of-women-arrested-in-street-protest-9136570.html

Apparently its for health reasons, officials are "citing that lace does not absorb enough moisture".
I'll admit I'm not an expert on this subject, but I can see a possible compromise solution; Lace undies with silica gel dessicant sewn into the fabric. Only problem is, the lacy underwear will transform to an unflattering twice its normal size after washing. But this could be remedied by placing the panties in an oven at 150 degrees C for an hour or so, after which the silica crystals will shrink back down to their normal size and be renewed.

I think I'll send this info to Mr. Putin, as he's got a few headaches at the moment, and the poor guy is getting a very hard time from our own Eamon Gilmore.

Obliq · 05-03-2014 06:25PM

recedite wrote: »

I think I'll send this info to Mr. Putin, as he's got a few headaches at the moment, and the poor guy is getting a very hard time from our own Eamon Gilmore.

This made me laugh

Delirium · 06-03-2014 09:45AM

Parishioners scorched on forehead by holy ashes on Ash Wednesday

A priest was forced to abandon an Ash Wednesday mass yesterday – after 30 of his parishioners had their foreheads burned by the blessed ashes.

Fr Eugene Baker had given out the ashes to everyone in the congregation when they started to complain about a burning sensation.

He was forced to stop the mass in St Joseph’s Church in Newtownshandrum in north Cork and advise the congregation to go into the church sacristy and wash the ashes off.

Fr Baker told independent.ie that he is surprised by the anomaly and he apologised to his parishioners.

norrie rugger · 06-03-2014 09:48AM

They were vampires!!!! The holy ash burned their impure skin

norrie rugger · 06-03-2014 10:38AM

Just thinking, people were burned as witches for far less "evidence" than this

Bannasidhe · 06-03-2014 11:19AM

norrie rugger wrote: »

Just thinking, people were burned as witches for far less "evidence" than this

The Newtownshandrum Witch Trials!!!

It could put the place on the map boi!!

Ummmm...apart from the vague 'north Cork'...where the hell is it???

30 of 'his parishioners' were burnt...is it a teeny weeny place or a not very religious place???

norrie rugger · 06-03-2014 11:21AM

I only ever heard of the place in relation to either Bogball or Stickball

Bannasidhe · 06-03-2014 11:31AM

norrie rugger wrote: »

I only ever heard of the place in relation to either Bogball or Stickball

Would those be the same as Bigball and Smallball as they call them in the Shhhitty?

FouxDaFaFa · 06-03-2014 11:49AM

SW wrote: »

Parishioners scorched on forehead by holy ashes on Ash Wednesday

Yikes, thankfully it seems they only received minor burns.

How would that even happen?

Surely if the ashes were somehow so fresh that they were still warm, the people would notice immediately rather than after half an hour? Maybe in conjunction with the oil and the heat from their own skin?

Bannasidhe · 06-03-2014 12:00PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Yikes, thankfully it seems they only received minor burns.

How would that even happen?

Surely if the ashes were somehow so fresh that they were still warm, the people would notice immediately rather than after half an hour? Maybe in conjunction with the oil and the heat from their own skin?

This is no place for your logic and seeking a reasonable explanation :mad:

*checks forum* Oh - it is.

Sorry bout that. My mistake.

Do carry on.

Mr_A · 06-03-2014 12:00PM

If it burned the parishioners, how come the priests finger wasn't burned even more?

It's a miracle!

06-03-2014 12:15PM

Someone in another forum said yesterday a woman showed up at the doc with a burn on her forehead from it as well
I'd say it could easily be one of those things that doesn't really start to hurt for a couple mins, depending on what was in the actual ashes

Delirium · 06-03-2014 12:24PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Someone in another forum said yesterday a woman showed up at the doc with a burn on her forehead from it as well
I'd say it could easily be one of those things that doesn't really start to hurt for a couple mins, depending on what was in the actual ashes

Yeah. It's a slow burn so you could handle the ash for a brief time but prolonged exposure would eventually burn you.

robindch · 06-03-2014 01:03PM

If it was a Russian Orthodox church service, I'd be concerned the ashes contained polonium.

LeinsterDub · 06-03-2014 03:36PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Yikes, thankfully it seems they only received minor burns.

How would that even happen?

Surely if the ashes were somehow so fresh that they were still warm, the people would notice immediately rather than after half an hour? Maybe in conjunction with the oil and the heat from their own skin?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/galway-priest-solves-mystery-after-ashes-burn-foreheads-1.1715055?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Turns out it's science's fault yet again.

Gordon · 06-03-2014 06:17PM

SW wrote: »

Parishioners scorched on forehead by holy ashes on Ash Wednesday

Presumably they were sinners, so their god smote them a little.

recedite · 06-03-2014 09:33PM

LeinsterDub wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/galway-priest-solves-mystery-after-ashes-burn-foreheads-1.1715055?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Turns out it's science's fault yet again.

That's a misunderstanding of science though; the conclusion that it was chlorine in the water is BS. This is what happens when you allow a priest to "interpret" chemistry to a reporter. Interpreting the bible is one thing, but....

Its an alkali called caustic lye; here's how to make it.
Our ancestors were very familiar with it, early Celtic and Saxon peoples used lye products as their soap for washing themselves, and also bleaching their hair. I'd say the trick is to rub it in well, and then rinse it off fairly quickly.

The ash would not have been caustic until the priest added the (holy) water to it.

Turtwig · 06-03-2014 09:40PM

So what's your saying is God set the Holy Water on fire to demonstrate his wrath with believers for letting the fabric of society be destroyed!

Hotblack Desiato · 06-03-2014 09:47PM

Never saw a single person with the mark of satan ashes on their head this year.

Only a few years back there would have been several in work and maybe 10% of people walking down the street.

robindch · 07-03-2014 12:50AM

SW wrote: »

Parishioners scorched on forehead by holy ashes on Ash Wednesday

Shouldn't that be Rash Wednesday?(*)

(*) Nick wins a bet.

Mr_A · 07-03-2014 12:52AM

Still totally a miracle that the priest's touching finger didn't burn.

robindch · 07-03-2014 12:55AM

Mr_A wrote: »

Still totally a miracle that the priest's touching finger didn't burn.

Maybe he's immune to his own transubstantiation spell?

Hotblack Desiato · 07-03-2014 01:04AM

Mr_A wrote: »

Still totally a miracle that the priest's touching finger didn't burn.

Bet he said that to all the altar boys.

legspin · 07-03-2014 01:49AM

Mr_A wrote: »

Still totally a miracle that the priest's touching finger didn't burn.

The skin on the thumb, while being sensitive to touch, is quite thick and fairly tough. It has to be to put up with all the abuse it gets in daily life.

The skin on the forehead, not so much, especially if not that weather-beaten.
Therefore it stands to reason that a caustic substance such as potash (KNO3, potassium hydroxide, a product in the ash of certain burnt woods) would irritate the thin skin on a forehead.
Mind you, if the priest had got some on anything other than the pad of his thumb (the base and sides of the thumbnail for example), he'd certainly know it.

One of the "treatments" to de-horn calves is to rub the nubbins of their horns with a stick of potash before they break through the skin. You had to make sure it broke through the fibrous outer layer of horn under the skin and onto the still growing core. Do it when the calves were young enough and it would essentially cauterise the bit of the horn that made it grow and the calve would grow up 'pollied'.
It was always one of the more unpleasant tasks during spring and early summer as it drove the poor little buggers mad.
We also used sodium hydroxide to wash the milking machine. That would sting like hell as well

This is slightly conjecture but the moment I heard the story I jumped to this conclusion. If I'm wildly off the mark, please tell me.

The Hazards of Belief

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