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Driver suspended for a month for ejecting Irish speakers from taxi

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    P_1 wrote: »
    So he didn't throw them out for speaking Irish, rather for acting the maggot in his cab. Baffling decision IMO

    I'd imagine if taxi drivers were to throw everyone out for acting the maggot, they'd be very short of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    P_1 wrote: »
    So he didn't throw them out for speaking Irish, rather for acting the maggot in his cab. Baffling decision IMO

    Thats what I find strange if they did use the term h*n then he had every right to throw them out. Very very strange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    keith16 wrote: »
    I'd imagine if taxi drivers were to throw everyone out for acting the maggot, they'd be very short of work.

    Hun is classed as sectarian in Scotland more than enough reason to throw them out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Definitely a Hun. A different slant on things in this report.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/city-taxi-driver-suspended-after-irish-gaelic-row.23612316

    At yesterday's hearing, a statement by the Hampden Cars driver was read. It stated: "I collected three males. During the journey one of the party started to sing/chant: 'There's Only One Glasgow Celtic.' I asked the chap to stop. The chap said: 'You must be a Hun then.'

    "I said: 'That's right, I'm a Hun.' Two of the party began speaking in a different language, Gaelic I think. I asked them to stop but they continued."

    so he was provoked into taking action


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    keith16 wrote: »
    I'd imagine if taxi drivers were to throw everyone out for acting the maggot, they'd be very short of work.

    True but isn't 'hun' classed in Scotland the same way that 'paki' or other slurs would be classed elsewhere?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    See, people say stuff like this, and then call people who speak Irish extremists :confused:


    It's absurd - humour in a very black sense. Believe it or not I wouldn't actually drive over someone for speaking Irish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    P_1 wrote: »
    True but isn't 'hun' classed in Scotland the same way that 'paki' or other slurs would be classed elsewhere?

    oh yeah....maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    What are your criteria for determining it to be a "shyte" language?
    How would you compare it to English in terms of phonology, lexis, grammar etc?


    I knew a guy who learned Klingon ..... he's making good money at the Star Trek Hilton experience in Las Vegas ....

    Thats a useful language !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭miroslavklose


    What are your criteria for determining it to be a "shyte" language?
    How would you compare it to English in terms of phonology, lexis, grammar etc?
    Judging by his spelling, I'd say it's because it's not dyslexic enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Judging by his spelling, I'd say it's because it's not dyslexic enough.


    Brilliant.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    This so called H*n thinks what the driver did was a disgrace imagine that ;)
    Really really pathetic I don't know any Rangers fans who would use the term when talking about themselves
    Thats what I find strange if they did use the term h*n then he had every right to throw them out. Very very strange
    Hun is classed as sectarian in Scotland more than enough reason to throw them out

    OK, so it's alright for a Ranger's supporter to call oneself a "so called Hun"
    Hun is sectarian in Glasgae? What about Paddy, Mick etc?
    He called himself a Hun ....... why didn't he decamp as well?

    As for plotting? Typical paranoia of that ilk. Cabbie says NO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    OK, so it's alright for a Ranger's supporter to call oneself a "so called Hun"
    Hun is sectarian in Glasgae? What about Paddy, Mick etc?
    He called himself a Hun ....... why didn't he decamp as well?

    As for plotting? Typical paranoia of that ilk. Cabbie says NO

    If you read what I posted you would see very few Rangers fans use the term h*n when talking about themselves. In fact I don't know any. Are you seriously trying to equate Paddy or Mick with a disgusting sectarian term which is rightly classed as sectarian in Scotland.
    H*n and Fen*an are rightly condemned as sectarian as they are of the same ilk get over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    I've never heard a Rangers supporter refer themselves with such a name - it would be like a Celtic supporter calling himself a Fenian b***ard, something does seem right with that Herald story!

    Oh and btw the owner of Hampden cabs is a Celtic supporter so maybe thats why he's only getting a month off as punishment(really nice guy is Mr Hampden;)).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Madam wrote: »
    I've never heard a Rangers supporter refer themselves with such a name - it would be like a Celtic supporter calling himself a Fenian b***ard, something does seem right with that Herald story!

    Oh and btw the owner of Hampden cabs is a Celtic supporter so maybe thats why he's only getting a month off as punishment(really nice guy is Mr Hampden;)).

    Thanks Madam. To many people seem to live in some sort of bubble I hear all the time its only Rangers fans that are called it you and I know its not. Also if it was the case why do you see KAH sprayed on walls in the North.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    A Hun can drive for a Celtic firm ........ could a Celtic fan drive for a firm connected to Rangers. If so, it must only just be recently. Celtic Football Club has had protestant players for years and the great Jock Stein - it's most successful manager. How many Catholic players/managers have Rangers had? I'm not trying to turn this thread into an arena of bigotry but the anomoly needs to be defined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    There was a thread on this a while back and to be honest I'm not sure what side to believe.

    Of course people should be free to converse in whatever language they choose and if the driver ejected them for that reason he should be punished. It is also undeniable that anti-Irish sentiment and sectarianism does exist in Scotland, more than is reported.

    However I have trouble believing that a taxi driver would choose to indulge in a spot of bigotry when outnumbered by three young men.

    I suspect what may have begun as some harmless football related banter between fans and the driver turned nasty. Sober driver in a bad mood coupled with drunk supporters pushing things too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    A Hun can drive for a Celtic firm ........ could a Celtic fan drive for a firm connected to Rangers. If so, it must only just be recently. Celtic Football Club has had protestant players for years and the great Jock Stein - it's most successful manager. How many Catholic players/managers have Rangers had? I'm not trying to turn this thread into an arena of bigotry but the anomoly needs to be defined.

    Really have you ever lived in Glasgow RC's and Protestants mix and socialise live in the same streets its not the North.

    Stien was treated disgracefully by Celtic offered a glorified sales job after what he did for the club
    As for your point about Rangers and RC players your right there was an Unwritten rule from the mid 1930's up until Mo Johnston signed not to sign RC.s but they in fact did not many but RC's did play for Rangers in this period in fact John Spencer was a youth player when Johnston signed. But bringing up old history is pretty pointless as its not happened for for 25 years its in the past try moving on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    I'm not trying to turn this thread into an arena of bigotry but the anomoly needs to be defined.

    Thread needs owl pics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    There was a thread on this a while back and to be honest I'm not sure what side to believe.

    Of course people should be free to converse in whatever language they choose and if the driver ejected them for that reason he should be punished. It is also undeniable that anti-Irish sentiment and sectarianism does exist in Scotland, more than is reported.

    However I have trouble believing that a taxi driver would choose to indulge in a spot of bigotry when outnumbered by three young men.

    I suspect what may have begun as some harmless football related banter between fans and the driver turned nasty. Sober driver in a bad mood coupled with drunk supporters pushing things too far.

    Sensible post but for just one thing! The young men where not drunk - in fact one of them doesn't drink alcohol at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Madam wrote: »
    Sensible post but for just one thing! The young men where not drunk - in fact one of them doesn't drink alcohol at all!
    Ah I must have misread that. Substitute jovial for drunk or perhaps drunk on their team's success!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Ah I must have misread that. Substitute jovial for drunk or perhaps drunk on their team's success!

    That would be it:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    There was a thread on this a while back and to be honest I'm not sure what side to believe.

    Of course people should be free to converse in whatever language they choose and if the driver ejected them for that reason he should be punished. It is also undeniable that anti-Irish sentiment and sectarianism does exist in Scotland, more than is reported.

    However I have trouble believing that a taxi driver would choose to indulge in a spot of bigotry when outnumbered by three young men.

    I suspect what may have begun as some harmless football related banter between fans and the driver turned nasty. Sober driver in a bad mood coupled with drunk supporters pushing things too far.

    There is also a lot of casual racism and sectarianism in the Republic people seem to be in denial about this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    There was a thread on this a while back and to be honest I'm not sure what side to believe.

    Of course people should be free to converse in whatever language they choose and if the driver ejected them for that reason he should be punished. It is also undeniable that anti-Irish sentiment and sectarianism does exist in Scotland, more than is reported.

    However I have trouble believing that a taxi driver would choose to indulge in a spot of bigotry when outnumbered by three young men.

    I suspect what may have begun as some harmless football related banter between fans and the driver turned nasty. Sober driver in a bad mood coupled with drunk supporters pushing things too far.

    This previous thread said it was an aunt with two young lads. The young men were from Donegal speaking to each other in Irish....not the driver. Not sure what the other paper is on about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Perhaps telling him where to go in English and then switching to Irish made him think they were talking about him. Simple explanation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    kowloon wrote: »
    Perhaps telling him where to go in English and then switching to Irish made him think they were talking about him. Simple explanation.

    So any foreigner getting into a Taxi telling the driver where they are going and then reverting to their own language is fair game for being thrown out. Don't think so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    There is also a lot of casual racism and sectarianism in the Republic people seem to be in denial about this


    This is quite possible but for the most part people down South really don't care about sectarianism. We had some unionist visitors who were friends of friends during the flag protests last year. They were dying to know everyone's opinions and were flabbergasted that nobody had one and most at the party didn't know it was even happening.

    I think that because of this any slaggings going on after definitely held more weight for our visitors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Ranchu wrote: »
    This is quite possible but for the most part people down South really don't care about sectarianism. We had some unionist visitors who were friends of friends during the flag protests last year. They were dying to know everyone's opinions and were flabbergasted that nobody had one and most at the party didn't know it was even happening.

    I think that because of this any slaggings going on after definitely held more weight for our visitors.

    Hhhmmm where do you class as being down South.

    As for your other point I am not saying everyone one is sectarian


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    The majority of the attendees were from Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Ranchu wrote: »
    The majority of the attendees were from Dublin.

    Lol Funny I have been told more than once not to mention I am a Rangers supporter in Dublin to put in bluntly because we don't like orange b@st@rds was what I was told now that was more than once but as I am neither of those things it was a bit annoying. And again I spend a lot of time in Dublin and its not everyone but it happens and it happens in my home county. People need to get over it I support a football team for football reasons as do the majority of Rangers fans we of course have more than our fair share of idiots as do Celtic unfortunately lots of different circumstances have made it like this. It is slowly getting better but you don't get rid of 100 years of crap in a few years


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    Lol Funny I have been told more than once not to mention I am a Rangers supporter in Dublin to put in bluntly because we don't like orange b@st@rds was what I was told now that was more than once but as I am neither of those things it was a bit annoying. And again I spend a lot of time in Dublin and its not everyone but it happens and it happens in my home county. People need to get over it I support a football team for football reasons as do the majority of Rangers fans we of course have more than our fair share of idiots as do Celtic unfortunately lots of different circumstances have made it like this. It is slowly getting better but you don't get rid of 100 years of crap in a few years

    I'm sorry to hear that.

    Do you find it happens more often in the confines of football supporting people, at matches, in pubs after etc?

    Or do you find it is as likely to happen while doing whatever you're doing in Dublin if it's not football related?


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