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Will you eat meat tomorrow

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  • #302
    jimmytwotimes 2013
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,804 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Part of the problem with St Patrick's Day is that it serves the purpose of a religious festival and has become a national day to express ones irishness. An atheist, non-Christian/Catholic may want to join in on the day for this reason, and have no interest in the Patrick side of things.


  • #303
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,101 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Will all the meat avoiding people be attending mass today?


  • #304
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    meat every day until Easter baby

    Laissez les bon temps rouler!


  • #305
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Akrasia wrote: »
    It's totally immature. But that's ok. This is after hours. We're allowed to be immature.

    And poking fun at others who believe wearing a bit of ash on their forehead while not eating meat (that can't swim) is important is a human right

    If you can't see the humour in how quaint and silly it all is, then that's your loss, not mine.

    And I'm glad that we are allowed to see the humour in it. It's what makes us a free country.please don't charge me with blasphemy

    A bit of fun and humour is one thing. Sniggering at other people's beliefs on a public forum is another. Do you also publicly sneer at Jewish beliefs, or Buddhist practices because you're 'just having a joke. C'mon don't be so seeen-si-tive?'


  • #306
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    A bit of fun and humour is one thing. Sniggering at other people's beliefs on a public forum is another. Do you also publicly sneer at Jewish beliefs, or Buddhist practices because you're 'just having a joke. C'mon don't be so seeen-si-tive?'

    Its the law of averages. Catholicism is the most visible, prevalent and invasive religion in this country and so will be the most taken to task.
    Judaism has practically zero impact on Irish life and Buddhism isnt a religion to start with.
    Besides a belief isnt a sentient thing and so cannot be hurt and God, if it exists and is all powerful certainly wont be hurt by it.


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  • #307
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    A bit of fun and humour is one thing. Sniggering at other people's beliefs on a public forum is another. Do you also publicly sneer at Jewish beliefs, or Buddhist practices because you're 'just having a joke. C'mon don't be so seeen-si-tive?'

    To be fair, this is After Hours, and a lot of Catholics would see the ashes and no meat aspect of Ash Wednesday as one of the endearingly peculiar aspects of their faith. Not to mention the Irish interpretation of Lent with the Patrick's Day blowout clause!


  • #308
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Its the law of averages. Catholicism is the most visible, prevalent and invasive religion in this country and so will be the most taken to task.
    Judaism has practically zero impact on Irish life and Buddhism isnt a religion to start with.
    Besides a belief isnt a sentient thing and so cannot be hurt and God, if it exists and is all powerful certainly wont be hurt by it.

    Taken to task and provocative sneering are two different things. People are perfectly entitled to criticise the tenets of any religion or belief system they wish. But surely it should be done in a way that is intelligent, respectful of the people who do practice that religion, and tolerant of things that might not make sense to them but are not doing any harm to society eg abstaining from meat on certain days of the year?


  • #309
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    To be fair, this is After Hours, and a lot of Catholics would see the ashes and no meat aspect of Ash Wednesday as one of the endearingly peculiar aspects of their faith. Not to mention the Irish interpretation of Lent with the Patrick's Day blowout clause!

    No problem with that at all. I've even heard priests laugh at the way people desperately try to get around some of the fasting rules. It's when it's done in an ignorant, superior or nastily contemptuous way that I have a problem. And there has been plenty of that on this thread.


  • #310
    GenieOz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    A bit of fun and humour is one thing. Sniggering at other people's beliefs on a public forum is another. Do you also publicly sneer at Jewish beliefs, or Buddhist practices because you're 'just having a joke. C'mon don't be so seeen-si-tive?'

    They're probably sneered at so much because for the majority of people on this forum those very beliefs were forced on them all growing up, only now do they get to break free of them.
    If you expect people not to sneer then you're being overly optimistic.


  • #311
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    Taken to task and provocative sneering are two different things. People are perfectly entitled to criticise the tenets of any religion or belief system they wish. But surely it should be done in a way that is intelligent, respectful of the people who do practice that religion, and tolerant of things that might not make sense to them but are not doing any harm to society eg abstaining from meat on certain days of the year?

    Satire is a perfect way of taking something to task.
    Dont assume that those who mock religion do so because, as you suggest, it makes no sense to them. I think you may find the total opposite to be true.
    Ever hear the ism that the surest way to atheism is to read the two Testements?

    I mock religion but not the religious in the same way that I loathe smoking but not smokers.


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  • #312
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    No problem with that at all. I've even heard priests laugh at the way people desperately try to get around some of the fasting rules. It's when it's done in an ignorant, superior or nastily contemptuous way that I have a problem. And there has been plenty of that on this thread.

    Im yet to find a single example of any criticism of religion which doesnt get called superior, arrogant or contemptuous. It seems to be the knee jerk defense mechanism of those who have no other way to back up a belief based on the text of a story with a talking snake at the beginning.

    Hows THAT for sneery!:D

    Yours in arrogance
    GB


  • #313
    Brendan Flowers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    Am I the only one who thinks that half the people here that have said they've got Steaks for tonight since its Ash Wednesday are probably the people who more than likely just be eating their usual beans on toast for dinner tonight?


  • #314
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    Jaysus. I rest my case.
    "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain"...heretic :eek: ;)


  • #315
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Look, there's nothing wrong with being critical of the catholic church at an institutional level and of the hypocrisy of some catholics (I'd fully agree) but whatever about any of the above, an adult in Ireland 2014 acting as if eating meat today/eating sweets throughout Lent are kinda rebellious of them... is just embarrassingly sad. It's not rebelling against anyone, nobody is stopping people from eating meat, and catholicism is an extremely soft target.

    Referring to priests in general as paedos is being dickish too.


  • #316
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Satire is a perfect way of taking something to task.
    Dont assume that those who mock religion do so because, as you suggest, it makes no sense to them. I think you may find the total opposite to be true.
    Ever hear the ism that the surest way to atheism is to read the two Testements?

    I mock religion but not the religious in the same way that I loathe smoking but not smokers.

    Satire is not the word I would use to describe some of the posts on this thread. I think you greatly flatter some of the posters.


  • #317
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    MonstaMash wrote: »
    "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain"...heretic :eek: ;)

    I know. But there is no one in the bible called 'Jaysus'. :)


  • #318
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    I know. But there is no one in the bible called 'Jaysus'. :)
    :pac::pac::pac: ;)


  • #319
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Im yet to find a single example of any criticism of religion which doesnt get called superior, arrogant or contemptuous. It seems to be the knee jerk defense mechanism of those who have no other way to back up a belief based on the text of a story with a talking snake at the beginning.

    Hows THAT for sneery!:D

    Yours in arrogance
    GB

    Is that a serious remark? And where have I, or anyone on this thread, backed up stories about talking snakes? In fact, have I even said I'm a practising Catholic?


  • #320
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    I know. But there is no one in the bible called 'Jaysus'. :)

    What about de Baby Cheeses?? Look at 'em there, la:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WnFQCdnyo6o/Tm0Q-G84odI/AAAAAAAAAw4/4gVQKgWH8JY/s400/babybel.jpg


  • #321
    shroom007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭shroom007


    Melissa Mammoth Trademark wrote: »
    Satire is not the word I would use to describe some of the posts on this thread. I think you greatly flatter some of the posters.

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh more tea vicar


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  • #322
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    It's not rebelling against anyone, nobody is stopping people from eating meat, and catholicism is an extremely soft target.

    Catholicism is not a soft target clearly, I haven't read the entire thread but I haven't seen anyone outrightly say in all seriousness they REBELLING against the church by eating meat today. It's obviously all lighthearted.

    Yet, we have several posters on here replying in full seriousness to defend the church. Bizarrely hypocritically sneering themselves at people for what they see as 'sneering' (to quote, "childish", "pathetic excuse for oneupmanship", etc etc)
    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Referring to priests in general as peados is being dickish too.

    Is it? It's certainly seems the post popular profession for peados. Not that they all are so it's definitely a generalisation, but not one without some merit.

    This is Afterhours after all.


  • #323
    zenno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Some people believe black people are inferior. Some believe women shouldnt have the vote.

    It all depends on who these "some people" are, doesn't it. Were not all assholes ye know.


  • #324
    mrsbyrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Akrasia wrote: »
    It's not silly, it's a celebration that Ireland has finally crawled (mostly) out from underneath the thumb of the RC church.

    No, really, its very silly.


  • #325
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    zenno wrote: »
    It all depends on who these "some people" are, doesn't it. Were not all assholes ye know.

    But ones beliefs must be respected apparently. I didnt read a dick head exception!


  • #326
    pragmatic1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Yep. A big t-bone steak.


  • #327
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Was in a hurry so had some bacon for lunch. Ended up setting off the smoke alarm. My housemate with children outside of marriage decided to comment on my activities.


  • #328
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Seeing as I'm both an athiest and a fan of all things carnivorous then yes I have eaten meat and will presumably have some with my dinner today. If you're catholic and adhere to its practices then enjoy your fish supper this evening but don't you dare to try to project your beliefs on others. If you're childishly saying 'nom nom steak, up yours catholics' then I'm afraid that you're a childish idiot.


  • #329
    Pang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Pang


    No meat today but not because of religious reasons. Trying to do more vegetarian and fish dishes in general for health purposes.


  • #330
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Had my lunch made today before I thought of it and didn't want to waste good food but will have fish for dinner.


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  • #331
    opiniated
    Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭opiniated


    I haven't eaten meat today.
    I wont eat meat on Good Friday. No big deal.

    For those who chose to eat meat today, I hope they enjoyed it.

    On the other hand, those who feel the need to mock those who abstained from meat, or feel that they are "heroes" for eating meat clearly have issues.
    I feel sorry for them.


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