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Small People- Big Career

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Many are quite big too. Arnie, Dev etc etc....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    There goes your hypothesis OP.

    The verisimilitude of your arguement was somewhat convincing, even if it did turn out to be a load of shit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,632 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Enda Kenny isn't that small, he's a fairly normal height :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Many are quite big too. Arnie, Dev etc etc....

    Yeah i suppose, had an experience recently of a small guy (5'4) compensating by having huge heels on his shoes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Wee man from Jackass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    I'd tend not to judge a persons ability based on their height/weight/shoe size etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Hitler?

    Napoleon Bonaparte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Didn't Michael D take part in the presidential debate on Primetime on stilts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,632 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Didn't Michael D take part in the presidential debate on Primetime on stilts.

    I was going to mention him, but he doesn't have any power!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Chucken wrote: »
    I'd tend not to judge a persons ability based on their height/weight/shoe size etc

    Even if your job was in a shoe-model recruiting agency?!?! I NEED ANSWERS


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    Do we just name small men?

    Danny de Vito. Am I doing it right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Hitler?

    Wasn't he compensating for only having one ball rather than his lack of height?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Sky King wrote: »
    There goes your hypothesis OP.

    The verisimilitude of your arguement was somewhat convincing, even if it did turn out to be a load of shit

    I wouldn't call it an "argument" or "a load of sh**", I was simply putting out there something I've noticed recently, chill the beans.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 625 ✭✭✭roadsmart


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Wasn't he compensating for only having one ball rather than his lack of height?

    Himmler had something........like that too, afair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    I found it amusing watching a world leaders' summit where most of them were very tall! Don't think there is any merit to the notion that height has anything to do with anything. Well, maybe, that the taller they are, the more successful they usually seem to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    sopretty wrote: »
    I found it amusing watching a world leaders' summit where most of them were very tall! Don't think there is any merit to the notion that height has anything to do with anything. Well, maybe, that the taller they are, the more successful they usually seem to be.

    Vlad Putin is hardly stooping to go under the doors now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Even if your job was in a shoe-model recruiting agency?!?! I NEED ANSWERS

    In that case I'd just quit before I started.

    At least I'd still have my morals :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Vlad Putin is hardly stooping to go under the doors now...

    That's true. Obama is quite imposing. Can't remember who the line-up included, but our own bucko looked tiny beside them all lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    sopretty wrote: »
    That's true. Obama is quite imposing. Can't remember who the line-up included, but our own bucko looked tiny beside them all lol.

    Haha yes, don't know if Gilmore or Kenny will be playing in the NBA any time soon!


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think the conventional wisdom is usually on the side of the tall guys being more likely to do well than the little people. Tallness commands respect, more of a 'presence' and all that stuff. The tend to earn more too, because of it.

    I'm rather petite myself, and am often referred to as 'the little girl' when people point me out. This does not command respect. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Candie wrote: »
    I think the conventional wisdom is usually on the side of the tall guys being more likely to do well than the little people. Tallness commands respect, more of a 'presence' and all that stuff. The tend to earn more too, because of it.

    I'm rather petite myself, and am often referred to as 'the little girl' when people point me out. This does not command respect. :(

    Yes I understand what your saying but I don't think respect is gained upon appearance, more the persons mannerisms and how they carry themselves.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes I understand what your saying but I don't think respect is gained upon appearance, more the persons mannerisms and how they carry themselves.

    But...your mannerisms and how you carry yourself are part of your appearance!

    I often hear the word 'imposing' in the same sentence as 'tall'. Tall makes an impression that small doesn't, and it tends to be good.

    How many times have you heard the words 'small' and 'insignificant' in the same sentence? :)

    It's easier for tall people to be noticed, and that is a very good start if nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Candie wrote: »
    But...your mannerisms and how you carry yourself are part of your appearance!

    I often hear the word 'imposing' in the same sentence as 'tall'. Tall makes an impression that small doesn't, and it tends to be good.

    How many times have you heard the words 'small' and 'insignificant' in the same sentence? :)

    It's easier for tall people to be noticed, and that is a very good start if nothing else.

    Well when you mentioned appearance I presumed you meant physical appearance, sorry about that. For me personally, whether a person is tall or small would have no influence on what I would think of them and I think the same would go for most other people.

    However, I understand what you mean about being noticed in a crowd for example but many tall people would rather be the same height or smaller than the people around them as they feel insecure about their height.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well when you mentioned appearance I presumed you meant physical appearance, sorry about that. For me personally, whether a person is tall or small would have no influence on what I would think of them and I think the same would go for most other people.

    However, I understand what you mean about being noticed in a crowd for example but many tall people would rather be the same height or smaller than the people around them as they feel insecure about their height.

    I don't think many people make conscious judgements on the basis of height, you'd have to be extraordinarily shallow to do so. I think the effect is more subconscious, we favour people closest to a physical ideal because evolution has taught us thats the best way to be.

    It's also been demonstrated that people with symmetrical faces are likely to be treated better by parents, teachers and employers...and its most likely the same bias at play. That's why it's the pretty babies who get the most attention, and why we go for the lookers when we're on the prowl.

    Good looks are aspirational and indicate good genetic makeup, we can't help but be in thrall to them. All we can do is try to compensate, but our patina of civilisation can only go so far :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭MangoMachine


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't think many people make conscious judgements on the basis of height, you'd have to be extraordinarily shallow to do so. I think the effect is more subconscious, we favour people closest to a physical ideal because evolution has taught us thats the best way to be.

    It's also been demonstrated that people with symmetrical faces are likely to be treated better by parents, teachers and employers...and its most likely the same bias at play. That's why it's the pretty babies who get the most attention, and why we go for the lookers when we're on the prowl.

    Good looks are aspirational and indicate good genetic makeup, we can't help but be in thrall to them. All we can do is try to compensate, but our patina of civilisation can only go so far :).

    Would you agree however that sometimes smaller people try to compensate for their height, or lack of it, by overbearing others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭Brego888


    Male leaders are generally at the far ends of the scale i.e. short or tall. Seemingly average height does not a great leader make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Pug160


    Candie wrote: »
    I think the conventional wisdom is usually on the side of the tall guys being more likely to do well than the little people. Tallness commands respect, more of a 'presence' and all that stuff. The tend to earn more too, because of it.

    I'm rather petite myself, and am often referred to as 'the little girl' when people point me out. This does not command respect. :(

    I think being taller makes you stand out more but it doesn't always command respect in itself. There are a lot of very awkward lanky men. I think being taller does give men an advantage in life but good body language makes a huge difference.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would you agree however that sometimes smaller people try to compensate for their height, or lack of it, by overbearing others?

    I think the Napoleon complex is quite real, much more so amongst some small men than small women. If they can't get noticed by the power of their physicality, they can compensate by overbearing or conspicuous behaviour to make their presence felt.

    Small women have less of a poison chalice to drink from; we're not expected to be brawny protector/providers so get more of a pass for being shortarses. I do know one or two very didactic small women though, so who knows!


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pug160 wrote: »
    I think being taller makes you stand out more but it doesn't always command respect in itself. There are a lot of very awkward lanky men. I think being taller does give men an advantage in life but good body language makes a huge difference.

    People don't respect the tallness in itself, they respect the presence it gives a person.

    You can have all the good body language in the world, but if you're a man under (say) five foot five, you won't draw much attention in a room of taller people.

    Awkwardness is something you can overcome, shortness isn't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I'm 6 foot but my Da is about 5'6" and my ma is just under 5 foot*

    Shortarse bullet dodged.



    *Still terrifying


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