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  • #32
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    friend of mine impaled his leg on a fence, and started shouting he got stabbed because it was easier to explain lol.


  • #33
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Correct.
    The problem was a failure by the organizers to meet their legal duty of care.
    A mistake I doubt they will make again.

    What a sign to tell the terminally stupid not to climb the great big 4 metre fence with spikes on top? What age was she.. 4?


  • #34
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    woodoo wrote: »
    What a sign to tell the terminally stupid not to climb the great big 4 metre fence with spikes on top? What age was she.. 4?

    She won her case, she was in the right.
    Get over it.
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.
    What age were the organizers (and the begrudgers)


  • #35
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Correct.
    The problem was a failure by the organizers to meet their legal duty of care.
    A mistake I doubt they will make again.

    Can I climb a security fence around a commercial/business/castle fall off or impale my self and sue as well then ? No. Would you people be defending some skanger who injured themselves breaking into somewhere ?


  • #36
    coolbeans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    She won her case, she was in the right.
    Get over it.
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.
    What age were the organizers (and the begrudgers)

    Don't call me a begrudger just because I disagree with you. It's mentally lazy and maddening.


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  • #37
    ART6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭ART6


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    You shouldn't have to ask why it was a spiked gate if you read the story in the link.

    The judge apportioned blame to Ms McCormack of 20pc for the accident after she climbed the four-metre high gate with spikes on top of it. The court heard the gate was originally designed to keep knights and soldiers out of the grounds during wartime.

    So it was a security gate, designed to keep people in and out. It was thirteen feet high with spikes on top, yet she elected to climb it and got spiked. It sounds to me as if she was a prime candidate for the Darwin Awards! I increasingly wonder what it is that is needed to protect people from their own stupidity? Oh, of course. It is lawyers.


  • #38
    coolbeans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    ART6 wrote: »
    So it was a security gate, designed to keep people in and out. It was thirteen feet high with spikes on top, yet she elected to climb it and got spiked. It sounds to me as if she was a prime candidate for the Darwin Awards! I increasingly wonder what it is that is needed to protect people from their own stupidity? Oh, of course. It is lawyers.

    Sure you're only a begrudger on the girl's big pay day! ;-)


  • #39
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    She won her case, she was in the right.
    Get over it.
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.
    What age were the organizers (and the begrudgers)

    She was not forced or advised to climb over the gate. Thats something she did entirely of her own choosing.


  • #40
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    She won her case, she was in the right.
    Get over it.
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.
    What age were the organizers (and the begrudgers)

    Sir Humf is on the money though.

    Whilst Her Majesty's Judges have a quite narrowly defined book of compensatory values applicable to physical injuries,our more socially aware Judiciary have a far less restrictive set of mores,and they readily avail of that freedom from restriction.

    We have evolved into a Nation of Adults of infirm minds,sometimes spectacularly incapable of exercising any form of "Common" sense or "Reasonable Behaviour"....what makes us somewhat more different from the other European Peoples is the relative ease with which we can get a substantial payout....allied to the total erasure of the term "Mind Yourself now" from common usage .....:eek:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #41
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    coolbeans wrote: »
    Don't call me a begrudger just because I disagree with you. It's mentally lazy and maddening.

    Was I address you?
    Huh?
    Huh?


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  • #42
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    She won her case, she was in the right.
    Get over it.
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.
    What age were the organizers (and the begrudgers)

    Not that I want to rehash the whole case again but I think you are making up the part about her being directed to the gate.

    MCD contended she passed three main exits before going down the woodland track to the Dublin Road gate.

    In her judgment, Ms Justice O'Hanlon said not putting up signs about the Dublin Road gate being closed was ill-conceived. There should have been a person at the entrance to the woodland path leading to the gate and at the gate to alert people, she said.


  • #43
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Not that I want to rehash the whole case again but I think you are making up the part about her being directed to the gate.

    MCD contended she passed three main exits before going down the woodland track to the Dublin Road gate.

    In her judgment, Ms Justice O'Hanlon said not putting up signs about the Dublin Road gate being closed was ill-conceived. There should have been a person at the entrance to the woodland path leading to the gate and at the gate to alert people, she said.

    I can understand that in relation to say a massive hole in the ground. But by the logic there you should have signs and guards around trees saying don't climb up them. Some things don't need to be said/signed/guarded if she had climbed up say 13 feet of drain pipe and fell off would she have got compo...


  • #44
    coolbeans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Was I address you?
    Huh?
    Huh?

    You were obviously addressing those who disagree with you.


  • #45
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    She won her case, she was in the right.
    Get over it.
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.
    What age were the organizers (and the begrudgers)

    I'm glad you are happy to pay higher insurance premiums to foot the bill for a broken system like we have here.


  • #46
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    woodoo wrote: »
    I'm glad you are happy to pay higher insurance premiums to foot the bill for a broken system like we have here.

    wonder how long till restaurants have to supply you with a armbands when eating soup for your own safety.


  • #47
    Sir Arthur Daley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.

    Was she?


  • #48
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Not that I want to rehash the whole case again but I think you are making up the part about her being directed to the gate.

    MCD contended she passed three main exits before going down the woodland track to the Dublin Road gate.

    In her judgment, Ms Justice O'Hanlon said not putting up signs about the Dublin Road gate being closed was ill-conceived. There should have been a person at the entrance to the woodland path leading to the gate and at the gate to alert people, she said.

    Ms McCormack said when her group came out of the castle she asked a security guard how to get out and was told to go to the top of the field and turn right, which they did.
    She said she did not see exits and she went where she was told to go.
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/concertgoer-sues-after-impaling-her-arm-on-gate-spike-at-slane-30048930.html


  • #49
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Ms McCormack said when her group came out of the castle she asked a security guard how to get out and was told to go to the top of the field and turn right, which they did.
    She said she did not see exits and she went where she was told to go.
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/concertgoer-sues-after-impaling-her-arm-on-gate-spike-at-slane-30048930.html

    She went Down a clearly unlit path with no signs saying exit unlike the one the guard was maybe talking about that would have been clearly lit and signed. Even if the story is accurate that fact of coming to a dead end with a massive security gate/fence would say you went the wrong way. It would not lead you to believe oh yeah this must be the way out over this 13 foot fence with spikes.....


  • #50
    wendell borton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    She won her case, she was in the right.
    Get over it.
    She was directed down an unlit path to locked gate.
    What age were the organizers (and the begrudgers)

    The actions of these people was an effect on the quality of life the non-idiot decent percentage of the population. Not only with increased insurance and fees, but also the H&S red tape in place to protect said idiots makes life just a bit more annoying for the rest of us to go about our lives.


  • #51
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    WikiHow wrote: »
    Was she?

    That was the evidence given in court, and it was accepted by the court.


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  • #52
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    She went Down a clearly unlit path with no signs saying exit unlike the one the guard was maybe talking about that would have been clearly lit and signed. Even if the story is accurate that fact of coming to a dead end with a massive security gate/fence would say you went the wrong way. It would not lead you to believe oh yeah this must be the way out over this 13 foot fence with spikes.....

    Happily the Court disagreed with you.


  • #53
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Happily the Court disagreed with you.

    Yes we all know the judges here are clearly in touch with reality....


  • #54
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    jane82 wrote: »
    They should have been made safe so before it was deemed to charge 80 000 people for being there.

    Your post comes across as being a complete spanner.

    BANNED.

    Mod.


  • #55
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Happily the Court disagreed with you.

    Why would you be happy about this. Was she your daughter or something :D


  • #56
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    woodoo wrote: »
    Why would you be happy about this. Was she your daughter or something :D

    Nah.
    Sad you need to get personal, very sad.
    I just believe in law and justice.


  • #57
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Stavros Murphy wrote: »
    Your post comes across as being a complete spanner.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Nah.
    Sad you need to get personal, very sad.
    I just believe in law and justice.

    Yeah and people wonder why some people fall over so much sue council/Tesco whoever and are serial claimants. It all puts our prices up in the long run. We are fast becoming just like America in this way, Ambulance chasers for you lawyers. No one is turned down by solicitors/lawyers anymore as even if they don't win their claim for stupidity “they usually Win” they still get paid. And the rest of us foot the bill. I wonder what would happen if you tried this say in the Netherlands.


  • #58
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    woodoo wrote: »
    Why would you be happy about this. Was she your daughter or something :D

    Probably a solicitor!


  • #59
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Sad you need to get personal, very sad.
    .

    Aren't you over reacting a little. :rolleyes:


  • #60
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    woodoo wrote: »
    Aren't you over reacting a little. :rolleyes:

    No.


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  • #61
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    No.

    You are defending ridiculous claims that cost us all in the long run. I don't really believe you are serious i think you may be trolling a little here.


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