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tanks you have unlocked but not bought

  • 04-11-2013 10:16am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭


    thought this might be a useful thread for people to discuss tanks that they have unlocked but not bought due to nerfs or changes etc.

    one tank i have unlocked but never bought was the lorraine 40t.. it gets such awful player comments that i always bought a different tank i had unlocked as a preference. but now, the 1390 is so **** against similar light tier 8 tanks that i am tempted to save the 3.5 million and buy the lorraine..

    anyone used it? is it fun at all? you dont see many of them in game anymore.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    I'm almost that way on the French tanks. I've unlocked and bought them, but won't play them. I could do fine with the US auto-loaders, but me and the French ones just don't mix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    its kinda like that for me too, every time i say im gonna sell the 1390 i have one last game and get 4 or 5 kills with it and love it.. then have 7 or 8 crap games with it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,341 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Never bought or played a game in the Lorraine; at the time T9 was the cap for mediums and a certain player was talking about leaving the clan / logging off with our only Batchat less then an hour before CW (it was a month or so after release of the line as I recall) and we needed one so I free exped from the 13-90 to Batchat and bought the Batchat to have it available.

    Same thing with the Ferdi except I went with the Jagdpanter2 (which I loved) and unlocked everything on JP2 (which unlocked everything except tracks on the Ferdi) and free exped the Ferdi to elite it as it was rumored at the time the Ferdi would branch off to the new German TD tree (which was false as it turned out).

    I've also got a ton of Tier 2 - tier 6 I've skipped over using free exp in the grind simply because I can't move the crew over (don't get 10% experience) anyway so why bother (esp. arty lines to make sure they got HE which was tier 5) :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    theres still seems to be a lot of batchats in game, just rarely see any lorries.

    i went and sold my tier 9 patton last night.. played it the least of my 14 or 15 tanks, and i had a sh1t win rate in it, only 43%, so i thought fook it, im about to unlock t44 and enjoying the russian meds, so the t54 seems a much much better tank.

    gonna play my lowe a bit for creds, and go and buy the lorraine, see what its like..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    Lorraine is not a bad tank, gets alot of undeserved criticism I think. You're bigger than an AMX and less agile, harder to hide and harder to run away so it's more difficult to master.

    You're also driving a tier 9 medium, not a tier 7 or 8 light tank. 13/75, 13/90 rushes in spots a few tanks, deals 500 damage and then gets destroyed? No big deal.
    Do the same in a Lorraine and not only will you be annoyed with your own performance, your teammates also might be flaming you.

    At the start of every battle, your speed is almost a liabililty. You will be faster than most other tanks but don't be tempted to reach a position far away. Most likely you will be not be supported and unable to hold it by yourself instead being swarmed and destroyed.

    Your mobility is an asset in the second-half of the battle when you can relocate or rush a damaged, isolated enemy.

    My stats in the Lorraine aren't good but I learned the hard way and towards the end I was having some great battles with it.

    At the start of every battle your aim should be to find a good sniping position and try to fire off two drums of ammo before advancing dangerously into enemy territory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    some good points there, i done a bit more reading on the forums and its getting some buffs in the enxt patch, including the supposedly awful turret depression!

    so, i have the credits there now to buy it, i have the free xp to get the gun to start with, so i think i will wait till its buffed to buy it...

    couldnt find any official patch notes mentioning the buffs though...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    It's far too early for patch notes, it won't be out until late December.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    would explain why i cant find them alright :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    bit the bullet and bought it last night, used free xp on susp and gun.. used my 1390 crew and put camo net and the ammo rack durability attachments.

    i like it! packs a good punch, fast, not too un manouverable as is, i have a feeling it will be way better when its buffed...

    i would imagine it was great fun to play at tier 8!


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 79 ✭✭Drweavil


    So far I've unlocked but not yet bought: T10 = E-100, Obj. 140/430, AMX 50B, ehhh there's another that escapes me in that list too, can't for the life of me remember (at work). And a truck load of T7's and 8's.

    I'm really just playing light tanks at T5-8 atm and enjoying the challenge. Might get a 50B next, I've had quite a few games on it on the test servers and it's so much better than the AMX 50 120. Had a 5k damage game in it the other night, but that was on the test server so it really doesn't count.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    since this thread i unlocked the batchat.. really loved the lorry, it suited me. just workin on credits now for batchat.

    unlocked the t7 lorraine spg but didnt buy it, unlocked gwtiger never bought it. got bored of the artys.

    unlocked the obj268 but havent bought it.

    like you, im playing through the 6-9 lines of new tanks and enjoying it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    I usually buy tanks almost straight away when I unlock them. The one tank I haven't is the 121, tier X Chinese medium. For a long time I didn't have enough credits for it and wasn't able to save any as I was buying new mid-tier tanks that I had researched or buying back tanks I had previously sold.

    I have enough credits for it now but am waiting for February as it might be on discount then. I like how the WZ-120 plays so I'm hoping I will enjoy it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭VikingG


    KV 3 for me..


    But it looks like it will be discounted this weekend so will probably buy it

    http://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/44/heavy-duty-weekend/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭BigEejit


    Aenaes wrote: »
    I usually buy tanks almost straight away when I unlock them. The one tank I haven't is the 121, tier X Chinese medium. For a long time I didn't have enough credits for it and wasn't able to save any as I was buying new mid-tier tanks that I had researched or buying back tanks I had previously sold.

    I have enough credits for it now but am waiting for February as it might be on discount then. I like how the WZ-120 plays so I'm hoping I will enjoy it.

    I dont know if they will have sales of tier 10's in Feb. They dont happen all that often. I need to buy a IS7 and T92 so would love them to go on sale, but I'm not holding my breath :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    BigEejit wrote: »
    I dont know if they will have sales of tier 10's in Feb. They dont happen all that often. I need to buy a IS7 and T92 so would love them to go on sale, but I'm not holding my breath :P

    Well they had tier 10 discounts last year until November (I think) then they cancelled them because of the big Wargaming 15 year anniversary and Christmas sales. They stated then that they would return in February. All other servers are having discounts on different tier 10 vehicles in February.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    will have to spend real money for credits for obj and batchat and maybe buy back is4 and is7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    The German "scout tank" that should not be has been unlocked for rather a long time for me. Everything in it except tracks and turret are unlocked elsewhere but even at 50% discount it's not getting bought.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    nesf wrote: »
    The German "scout tank" that should not be has been unlocked for rather a long time for me. Everything in it except tracks and turret are unlocked elsewhere but even at 50% discount it's not getting bought.

    If you mean the infamous awfulpanther, then there's good news, as the long term plan is to both buff the scouts, and reduce their MM weight once the new higher tier scouts are introduced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Spear wrote: »
    If you mean the infamous awfulpanther, then there's good news, as the long term plan is to both buff the scouts, and reduce their MM weight once the new higher tier scouts are introduced.

    Really until they change the spotting and camo mechanics it doesn't matter. The change to shot dispersion was very detrimental towards scouts and they never received any compensation for this sudden drop in survivability.

    The main problem though is the whole spotting system. It's just absurd. The camo system is just a horribly designed by-product of this (camo values and tank size seem to have little in common).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭BigEejit


    Indeed ... just recently I saw a guy with a few thousand battles in a Maus roll slowly across a field in Murovanka getting shot/spotted at by at least 4 or 5 people and he came to a small little bush and disappeared. The fecking Maus dwarfed the tiny bush but the stupid camo system hid it. :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    KV 13, I unlocked it but the T 34-85 is just so much fun with the derp gun i cannot bring myself to give it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Shams wrote: »
    KV 13, I unlocked it but the T 34-85 is just so much fun with the derp gun i cannot bring myself to give it up

    I loved the KV-13. It wasn't a grind at all for me, the T-43 was more annoying for me but still enjoyable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭YuM


    IS4 & T92 - It'll take a while to grind the credits for them, loving the whole TD shoot em in the ass thing ATM so working up the xp for a jgpz E100, prob grab that one first.

    Can't beat the wee KV2 for derp gunning. :)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 79 ✭✭Drweavil


    During a bout of more belligerent gaming the other night I managed to log into the live server instead of the test server and spent over 231k in converted XP before I realised my mistake.

    Let that be a lesson to all y'all! Don't drink and train! lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    haha niiiiiice


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 79 ✭✭Drweavil


    ahh I don't really mind, it means I'm one tank away from the Obj.430 so that's not a bad thing. But it does mean some crew training needed to be turned off... still, it's all fun ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    can anybody access the test server?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    copeyhagen wrote: »
    can anybody access the test server?

    any updates anyone?!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    copeyhagen wrote: »
    any updates anyone?!

    8.11 was released today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    yeh i seen that. but is the test server open to anyone that wants to try the new tnaks or inv only or what?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    I think it was taken down Monday. When it was down last week, it was probably for the CT3 update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    copeyhagen wrote: »
    yeh i seen that. but is the test server open to anyone that wants to try the new tnaks or inv only or what?

    The test server is open to everyone a few weeks before a patch. You just need to download it...or something.
    Any questions about it, Spear knows all about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Aenaes wrote: »
    The test server is open to everyone a few weeks before a patch. You just need to download it...or something.
    Any questions about it, Spear knows all about it.

    Anyone can download it before the patch, it's a separate install of World of Tanks, you get a ton of gold and free xp to unlock the tanks you want. It is taken down before the patch goes live.

    It's normally fairly annoying because almost all games are Tier 10 matches consisting almost totally of whatever new Tier 10 is being introduced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    thanks lads. will use it next time its open to try some of the current tier 10s im thinking of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    was grinding towards t110e4. Had the smaller gun on the t30, it has good pen and about 450 alpha damage.. after reading all the reviews I was gonna just use that gun and grind the tier 10. But now im thinking I might not buy that tier 10, so last night I unlocked the susp, and for some reason the tier 10gun was unlocked but not bought! I didn’t unlock it, and its unique to that tank, but I thought happy days! It costs 55k xp to unlock, so I don’t know how I unlocked it!! But its useless! I played two games with it, shot maybe 6 shells and haven’t even hit a target yet! I read the reviews of it so I knew it was hit and miss. Dmg is 750 average, 280 pen, but it’s a 20second reload.

    Now I will need to play a good few games with it but that’s an awful record, 6shots, no hits, nevermind pens! Compared to the bl10 its garbage so far!


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 79 ✭✭Drweavil


    Hey Copey, the 155mm gun is quite troll and will give you games of frustration and joy in equal measure. I don't have an E4 myself but every time there's a test server up, I go get one as I do find it an enjoyable tank. It's like an E5 on steroids!

    Try using APCR and HEAT in equal quantities as you ammo loadout and where possible be clever with what shell you use and it makes a lot more sense as a tank.

    Crew skills make a huge difference too, are you running her with a good crew?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    yeah crew are on third skill at the moment. will take a few games to get a good feel for the gun alright.

    vertical stab would be nice to reduce the load time by 10%, think i have camo net and vents at moment only.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 79 ✭✭Drweavil


    Cool, are you using BIA as the first skill? I only ask as, as soon as I get the third skill I put BIA in as the first skill and some people maintain (DezGamez on Youtube) say you should wait for the 4th skill.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,341 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Drweavil wrote: »
    Cool, are you using BIA as the first skill? I only ask as, as soon as I get the third skill I put BIA in as the first skill and some people maintain (DezGamez on Youtube) say you should wait for the 4th skill.
    Well on a 20s reload BIA takes you down to 19.56s so I'm a recent convert to the idea that BIA is not really worth it (it's 5% crew skill but the actual effect is 2.2%). BIA don't work on time between in clips either but purely on the magazine (i.e. Waffenträgger has 2s between shells and you can't reduce that; you only reduce time on the full magazine reload). Even on a 60s reload you're taking a 1.38s saving :(

    Hence I'd place it at third at best (sixth sense / other crew skill, repair, first slot for BIA if you don't want/need second skill or camo)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    like nody, i normally go repair till second skill is 50ish, then drop repair for sixth sense/repair, then do the same thing on the third skill and go for bia


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 79 ✭✭Drweavil


    You don't rate the increase in view range, decrease in aim time and all that? Interesting... although I suppose it depends on the tank...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,341 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Drweavil wrote: »
    You don't rate the increase in view range, decrease in aim time and all that? Interesting... although I suppose it depends on the tank...
    View range I got sorted with coated optics (or Bino if I'm a sit in the bush tank), aim time improvement is neglible. If it normally takes 7s (usually you're far less then that) it goes down to 6.846s; you're not going to notice the difference and the moment one of your crew die you lose the benefit (i.e. I only ressurect loader and gunner, sometimes driver but would never want to waste it on the radio operator).


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