Sean O'Rourke Today Show

serfboard · 25-02-2014 01:22PM

The 11 o'clock beep was especially noticeable this morning.

IvyTheTerrible · 25-02-2014 01:29PM

serfboard wrote: »

The 11 o'clock beep was especially noticeable this morning.

Yeah it was really loud, had the radio on in the living room and heard it from the kitchen!

Roger_007 · 25-02-2014 01:37PM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Yeah it was really loud, had the radio on in the living room and heard it from the kitchen!

You really need a bigger house.:rolleyes:

serfboard · 25-02-2014 01:38PM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Yeah it was really loud, had the radio on in the living room and heard it from the kitchen!

I put it down to two things - there was a moment of silence which the beep filled, and Seán's hand must have been close to the mic.

After it went off he announced that he was going to an ad break. Says I to the radio - "What are you doing that for? It's 11 o'clock. 'Tis time for the news!".

ThisRegard · 25-02-2014 01:46PM

serfboard wrote: »

The 11 o'clock beep was especially noticeable this morning.

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Yeah it was really loud, had the radio on in the living room and heard it from the kitchen!

I've yet to notice it, maybe it's the inverse of one of those teenage buzzing things and only oul lads and wans can hear it ?

I'm happy to see what I'm not just there yet.

serfboard · 25-02-2014 01:50PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

I've yet to notice it

I'll guarantee you weren't listening at 11 this morning. You could not have missed it.

Callan57 · 25-02-2014 02:20PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

I've yet to notice it, maybe it's the inverse of one of those teenage buzzing things and only oul lads and wans can hear it ?

I'm happy to see what I'm not just there yet.

How dare you! - I'll have you know I'm a sprightly 35 & holding :eek:

thesandeman · 26-02-2014 03:20AM

CountyHurler wrote: »

Jaysus, she's some dose..

Just listening to the repeat. Interesting that when she was going on about the below cost selling of fruit and veg she mentions Tesco (who didn't get involved in the Christmas price war) but not Dunnes (who were one of the main culprits).

Lapin · 26-02-2014 11:29AM

RTÉ asked Paddy O'Gorman to go and interview some people from Mayo so he headed straight for the easiest place to find them. Galway Courthouse.

Callan57 · 26-02-2014 11:37AM

This fellow from the post office is flogging a dead horse - come on it 2014 not 1914

IvyTheTerrible · 28-02-2014 10:34AM

The first guy on this item about mortgages illustrates exactly why people got into trouble. He said "When I was younger, I should have just paid high rent and bought a brand new car instead of being sensible and getting on the property ladder".
How is it "sensible" to burden yourself with an unsustainable mortgage?

HeidiHeidi · 28-02-2014 10:41AM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

The first guy on this item about mortgages illustrates exactly why people got into trouble. He said "When I was younger, I should have just paid high rent and bought a brand new car instead of being sensible and getting on the property ladder".
How is it "sensible" to burden yourself with an unsustainable mortgage?

Well obviously it wasn't unsustainable at the time..... circumstances change, sometimes drastically, and leave people unable to cope. *

The rearward view from a high horse must be a very good one :rolleyes:

*yes, I know he might have taken out a 110% mortgage while in a flaky job, but tbh he didn't sound like that to me

IvyTheTerrible · 28-02-2014 10:43AM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Well obviously it wasn't unsustainable at the time..... circumstances change, sometimes drastically, and leave people unable to cope. *

The rearward view from a high horse must be a very good one :rolleyes:

*yes, I know he might have taken out a 110% mortgage while in a flaky job, but tbh he didn't sound like that to me

I'm not on a high horse :rolleyes:
But I get a bit sick of the "rent is dead money" argument, you're not throwing money away, you're paying for a service.
The tone of his voice was suggesting people who didn't buy were suckers.

Callan57 · 28-02-2014 10:55AM

I fully agree this "property ladder" line should be banned - every time I hear it I cringe. It's all gearing up again - people never learn :mad:

Folks, stick with buying a HOME

P. Breathnach · 28-02-2014 10:56AM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

The first guy on this item about mortgages illustrates exactly why people got into trouble. He said "When I was younger, I should have just paid high rent and bought a brand new car instead of being sensible and getting on the property ladder".
How is it "sensible" to burden yourself with an unsustainable mortgage?

I think he was using "sensible" in an ironic way. He did what was widely perceived at the time as being the sensible thing.

HeidiHeidi · 28-02-2014 10:58AM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I'm not on a high horse :rolleyes:
But I get a bit sick of the "rent is dead money" argument, you're not throwing money away, you're paying for a service.
The tone of his voice was suggesting people who didn't buy were suckers.

I disagree to an extent. Renting long-term in Ireland is a very insecure way of living - there's no long-term security of tenure, you're at the whim of (usually) individual landlords and are in no way guaranteed a secure home for your lifetime, or even the time while your kids are growing up. And that's before you get to the lack of supply of suitable "homes" (as opposed to just houses thrown together to be rented out).

I rented in Germany, where renting is the norm, and it's a whole different ballgame - the apartment block was owned by a pension fund or some such, and once you were in, you were in, you had great security.

That's putting it very simplistically, I know - but I can absolutely understand why people don't see renting as a viable long-term option in Ireland, but it's not to do with the old cliche that "rent is dead money".

HeidiHeidi · 28-02-2014 11:00AM

Callan57 wrote: »

I fully agree this "property ladder" line should be banned - every time I hear it I cringe. It's all gearing up again - people never learn :mad:

Folks, stick with buying a HOME

Yes, but back then when the madness had struck, there were very few who could afford a long-term family HOME from the word go, they were priced in the stratosphere. So you bought what you could afford (at the time, with no knowledge of the future) and hoped that you could trade up in time.

Coupled with what I've just posted about renting, I can't really blame people who went about this in a non-mad way - it was the only option at the time for a lot of not-yet-families.

chinwag · 28-02-2014 11:23AM

Callan57 wrote: »

I fully agree this "property ladder" line should be banned - every time I hear it I cringe. It's all gearing up again - people never learn :mad:

Folks, stick with buying a HOME

True. But even our government conveniently use the term 'property' when it comes to taxation. Local Property Tax is in fact a Home Tax but that description is too uncomfortable for our government to use :mad:

Callan57 · 28-02-2014 11:36AM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Yes, but back then when the madness had struck, there were very few who could afford a long-term family HOME from the word go, they were priced in the stratosphere. So you bought what you could afford (at the time, with no knowledge of the future) and hoped that you could trade up in time.

Coupled with what I've just posted about renting, I can't really blame people who went about this in a non-mad way - it was the only option at the time for a lot of not-yet-families.

Agree but why was a HOME deliberately made unaffordable? It was the property tax incentives that made it attractive for speculators with money to invest in multiple houses thus driving up the asking prices for those who just wanted to buy a home & raise their family there.
I have personal knowledge of towns where every new housing estate had X number of houses earmarked for local business property syndicates before the estates were even built - houses that, of course, were intended for rent allowance renters (yet another state benefit to the section of society who already had access to property tax benefits.)
This was absolutely nothing but speculation assisted by taxation benefits and anyone could see what it did was drive up the prices for everyone else (most who, of course, did not have access to the same tax exemptions)
And slowly but surely you can see it gearing up all over again - when I see the like of Jim Power & Dan McLoughlin starting to appear again I just despair. :mad:

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-03-2014 10:26AM

Pat windbag at the trough Cox really annoys me

Happyman42 · 03-03-2014 10:40AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Pat windbag at the trough Cox really annoys me

I'd say Putin is an emotional gibbering wreck after the 'silken one' spoketh!

Callan57 · 03-03-2014 10:53AM

Happyman42 wrote: »

I'd say Putin is an emotional gibbering wreck after the 'silken one' spoketh!

Vladimir put right off his weetabix I bet :rolleyes:

DownBeaten · 04-03-2014 10:52AM

I don't think I've ever encountered a more obnoxious individual than Alastair Campbell.

Ciaran · 04-03-2014 11:09AM

There's no need to sedate this guy's horses. Just have him talk around them and they'll fall asleep.

Harry Angstrom · 04-03-2014 11:56AM

All those Cajun songs sound exactly the same....

alaimacerc · 04-03-2014 04:36PM

chinwag wrote: »

True. But even our government conveniently use the term 'property' when it comes to taxation. Local Property Tax is in fact a Home Tax but that description is too uncomfortable for our government to use :mad:

Or to flip that around, "property tax" is too neutral a description for those who'd prefer "home tax" to whip up a bit of the ol' reflexive populist resentment? After all, it's payable by the owner on rental property, too. (Commercial property is already taxed, albeit on a separate basis.)

Callan57 · 04-03-2014 06:29PM

alaimacerc wrote: »

Or to flip that around, "property tax" is too neutral a description for those who'd prefer "home tax" to whip up a bit of the ol' reflexive populist resentment? After all, it's payable by the owner on rental property, too. (Commercial property is already taxed, albeit on a separate basis.)

It's a tax on the property regardless of whether or not it's a home.

CountyHurler · 06-03-2014 11:32AM

Ex Drug addict: "I love me life now.. And I have a three month baby girl".
Sean O'rourke: "And are you still with the father".
Ex Drug addict: "No, no. "
Sean O'Rourke: "I see."

:pac::pac:

Roger_007 · 06-03-2014 11:59AM

Every discussion on the Irish Language is conducted entirely in English. Nuff said!

Callan57 · 06-03-2014 12:01PM

They have lorried money into Irish since the foundation of the state & they gave advantage to those who did the Leaving through Irish & grants to gaeltacht areas and still nothing to show for it.
Maybe it's time to try an alternative approach and ban it completly ... the perverse people we are we'd probably all be speaking it fluently in a few years.

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