Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread IV

justsomebloke · 24-02-2014 01:32PM

He lacks self belief and aggression, kind of the same a Toner a few years ago. I think he has potential he just needs to learn not to give a **** and get on with it and get a run of games

.ak · 24-02-2014 01:36PM

justsomebloke wrote: »

He lacks self belief and aggression, kind of the same a Toner a few years ago. I think he has potential he just needs to learn not to give a **** and get on with it and get a run of games

Unfortunately that part is beyond his control.

Tox56 · 24-02-2014 01:54PM

ssaye2 wrote: »

Mad to think he was held in the same regard as Eben Etzebeth back home 3 years ago. Hugely different careers now

I'm almost certain this came up before and it wasn't the case. Etzebeth is held in the same regard over there as we would hold someone like Henderson, Roux never was, I'm pretty sure he didn't even make their U20 team

Buer · 24-02-2014 02:07PM

Tox56 wrote: »

I'm almost certain this came up before and it wasn't the case. Etzebeth is held in the same regard over there as we would hold someone like Henderson, Roux never was, I'm pretty sure he didn't even make their U20 team

Correct. Comparing Etzebeth and Roux is akin to comparing Henderson and Ben Marshall.

They were never rated at the same level. Roux never made an underage South African side but worked hard and made the bench in the S15 a few times. That was the height of it.

ssaye2 · 24-02-2014 04:31PM

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/fitzgerald-luke-fitness-leinster-ireland-reddan-1331208-Feb2014/

http://inpho.ie/assignment/Leinster-Rugby-Squad-Training-amp-Media-Briefing/in2oWDKAKI_XyhvG6WvWxQ..a?ts=cGsCAMhcpn6JkyVE4XtNhw..a

Nice to see Goodman is alive, being in a few pics recently

http://www.sportsfile.com/more-images/1402260/

Noopti · 24-02-2014 04:37PM

.ak wrote: »

I must be on my own but I thought he looked good against Cardiff. He made some pretty glaring defensive errors but I'm looking at the raw material, he's got lots of potential, a great athlete and very physical.

I'm with you. He has blown hot and cold in games, but when putting in a decent shift he looks promising. Whatever about Denton having a decent game last time out.....he has been utterly and consistently shocking previously. At least Roux has shown some promise, and with some proper game time I think he can become a good player for us.

Tox56 · 24-02-2014 04:48PM

So, for Glasgow

McGrath
Cronin
Moore
Cullen
McCarthy
Ruddock
Murphy
Conan (this is a bit of a wild card, but playing at 7 might help Jordi's international cause and I'd love to get a look at Conan again)
Reddan
Madigan
Fitzgerald
Reid
Macken
Fanning (going by bib theory it looks like.. again.. sigh)
Kirchner

justsomebloke · 24-02-2014 04:48PM

ssaye2 wrote: »

Nice to see Goodman is alive, being in a few pics recently

seems like his waist line is in good health :pac:

like Berquist it's a shame injury hampered their spell here but at least it forced our hand at giving some of the younger guys a chance

justsomebloke · 24-02-2014 04:50PM

Tox56 wrote: »

So, for Glasgow

McGrath
Cronin
Moore
Cullen
McCarthy
Ruddock
Murphy
Conan (this is a bit of a wild card, but playing at 7 might help Jordi's international cause and I'd love to get a look at Conan again)
Reddan
Madigan
Fitzgerald
Reid
Macken
Fanning (going by bib theory it looks like.. again.. sigh)
Kirchner

With Ruddock playing I'd have Denton or Roux over Cullen

Tox56 · 24-02-2014 04:51PM

justsomebloke wrote: »

With Ruddock playing I'd have Denton or Roux over Cullen

So would I but I'm going by bib theory

ssaye2 · 24-02-2014 04:55PM

Absolute beast

Juan_Mata · 24-02-2014 05:38PM

How does Fanning play for Leinster? He got shipped from Connacht didn't he? And he's not going to improve much or become an international. Why not give some upcoming players some wing time.

clsmooth · 24-02-2014 05:45PM

Juan_Mata wrote: »

How does Fanning play for Leinster? He got shipped from Connacht didn't he? And he's not going to improve much or become an international. Why not give some upcoming players some wing time.

Never thought of it like that before

former legend · 24-02-2014 05:49PM

Tox56 wrote: »

So, for Glasgow

McGrath
Cronin
Moore
Cullen
McCarthy
Ruddock
Murphy
Conan
Reddan
Madigan
Fitzgerald
Reid
Macken
Fanning
Kirchner

Surely McFadden will play ahead of Fanning. If so, that's potentially a very strong team to be sending out for a game during the 6N.

Dravokivich · 24-02-2014 05:49PM

Juan_Mata wrote: »

How does Fanning play for Leinster? He got shipped from Connacht didn't he? And he's not going to improve much or become an international. Why not give some upcoming players some wing time.

Oh you don't know? :pac:

Tox56 · 24-02-2014 05:50PM

former legend wrote: »

Surely McFadden will play ahead of Fanning. If so, that's potentially a very strong team to be sending out for a game during the 6N.

I suppose yeah, bib theory falls down a bit there, but there doesn't seem to be any sign of him in the training pics

Gracelessly Tom · 24-02-2014 05:50PM

Juan_Mata wrote: »

How does Fanning play for Leinster? He got shipped from Connacht didn't he? And he's not going to improve much or become an international. Why not give some upcoming players some wing time.

Why will he not improve? Surely training with the Leinster squad every day will improve him?

Glad to see you'll write him off on the basis of Connacht letting him go a few years ago.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 24-02-2014 05:52PM

Fanning gets a lot of slack but the reality is that he's a solid error free winger even if he doesn't offer a whole pile else

Tox56 · 24-02-2014 05:56PM

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Fanning gets a lot of slack but the reality is that he's a solid error free winger even if he doesn't offer a whole pile else

It's not so much him I have a problem with, it's that the weighting of gametime has been way more in his favour compared to someone like Hudson than I think it should have been.

And I disagree on error free, he's pretty average under the high ball and is prone to the defensive blunder.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-02-2014 06:10PM

Tox56 wrote: »

I suppose yeah, bib theory falls down a bit there, but there doesn't seem to be any sign of him in the training pics

Its only Monday, maybe the internationals get an extra day off, or maybe he is in camp with Joe and will be released later in the week to Leinster

LostArt · 24-02-2014 07:43PM

He trained

http://inpho.ie/media/l1sywvSiHUEUqWAOqOiA5A..a?wosid=AtpDiKyW7cAcungQ6Zu9fM&woinst=1&ts=CZOI-4QDp9bGw9PJcA7uqWzTlwvuBd6bZf7EAM34qU0.a

CatFromHue · 24-02-2014 08:31PM

Just looking at the A lineups and Hudson is being picked at full back with Coghlan Murray and Fanning on the wings this season. So on the back of that it looks like Fanning must be doing something in those games to get picked ahead of the other two lads.

Tox56 · 24-02-2014 08:42PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Just looking at the A lineups and Hudson is being picked at full back with Coghlan Murray and Fanning on the wings this season. So on the back of that it looks like Fanning must be doing something in those games to get picked ahead of the other two lads.

Yeah I haven't seen the A games, but hugonaut on LF, whos opinion I'd trust, has said that the persistence with Fanning over Hudson (or at least the disparity in how often they've been used, Fanning has six times as many minutes as Hudson this season) is still inexplicable to him as someone who has seen them in both A games and senior games.

Zeebs · 24-02-2014 08:45PM

Tox56 wrote: »

Yeah I haven't seen the A games, but hugonaut on LF, whos opinion I'd trust, has said that the persistence with Fanning over Hudson (or at least the disparity in how often they've been used, Fanning has six times as many minutes as Hudson this season) is still inexplicable to him as someone who has seen them in both A games and senior games.

Hudson is leaving at the end of the season, theres your reason.

former legend · 24-02-2014 08:49PM

Zeebs wrote: »

Hudson is leaving at the end of the season, theres your reason.

But would he be leaving if he'd got more game time?

.ak · 24-02-2014 11:09PM

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Fanning gets a lot of slack but the reality is that he's a solid error free winger even if he doesn't offer a whole pile else

I actually think the other way around. Flashes of brilliance but far too error prone, in terms in positioning and defence.

.ak · 24-02-2014 11:12PM

former legend wrote: »

But would he be leaving if he'd got more game time?

Chicken or the egg?

molloyjh · 24-02-2014 11:58PM

Tox56 wrote: »

Yeah I haven't seen the A games, but hugonaut on LF, whos opinion I'd trust, has said that the persistence with Fanning over Hudson (or at least the disparity in how often they've been used, Fanning has six times as many minutes as Hudson this season) is still inexplicable to him as someone who has seen them in both A games and senior games.

Yeah I've caught a couple of the games and Hudson def stood out far more than Fanning. No question.

The Pheasant2 · 25-02-2014 02:51AM

I how different Conway's place in Irish rugby would be if he'd stayed at Leinster...he certainly isn't thriving at Munster anyway

Hagz · 25-02-2014 03:01AM

I would imagine he would be in an almost identical situation except he'd have hair.

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