Have you ever spoken to a Fianna Fail supporter?

Dyr · 24-02-2014 12:38AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I'm sure you were calling out for tax increases and welfare cuts in the early 2000s :rolleyes:

FF gave the people what they wanted. The system is what's broken. The politicians have to do what they have to do to keep their jobs.

theres the pure gombeen scumbaggery mindset of fianna fail, "twas'nt us, twas de people, twas de sishtem, twas shometing but twas'nt us"

let me tell ya something horse, all through 2000's I sure wasn't voting for fianna fail. I don't think having crooks as leaders is a good thing

Busted Flat. · 24-02-2014 12:39AM

WesternZulu wrote: »

Yeah that's how the cycle works anyway.

FF run the country to the ground and leave someone else to clean up their mess.

Once the electorate forgets come back again in a few years and go about doing the same thing again.

Toxic party!

FF will more than likely form the next coalition, due to the lies and deceit, broken promises, and what has happened over the last few weeks. The present lot are the ones that will give FF their victory, and they are to arrogant to see it happening.

WesternZulu · 24-02-2014 12:40AM

Busted Flat. wrote: »

FF will more than likely form the next coalition, due to the lies and deceit, broken promises, and what has happened over the last few weeks. The present lot are the ones that will give FF their victory, and they are to arrogant to see it happening.

You do know that you are not obliged to vote FF if you're not happy with the current Government?

Busted Flat. · 24-02-2014 12:42AM

WesternZulu wrote: »

You do know that you are not obliged to vote FF if you're not happy with the current Government?

This is Ireland, do not forget what Rabbitt said "you make promises at election time".

Lou.m · 24-02-2014 12:44AM

jetsonx wrote: »

Have you ever spoken to a Fianna Fail supporter?

They do exist John Waters is a Fianna Fail supporter.

catallus · 24-02-2014 12:44AM

I'm not one for RTE bashing, but in the last few weeks the promotion of the FF party through tv radio and the internet has been very obvious. Any political story at all and we have a promotion of the leader of that party spouting nonsense retaliatory crap. It is hideous.

LoganRice · 24-02-2014 12:54AM

yes good times

kub · 24-02-2014 12:59AM

catallus wrote: »

I'm not one for RTE bashing, but in the last few weeks the promotion of the FF party through tv radio and the internet has been very obvious. Any political story at all and we have a promotion of the leader of that party spouting nonsense retaliatory crap. It is hideous.

I agree with you, obvious FF buddies in RTE, doing the usual FF underhand carry on no doubt. That party is crooked to its very core, I remember a budget back in i think 2002, when that gambler of a finance minister we had by the name of Mc Creevey decided to reduce taxes and increase social welfare payments on the same day.
The warnings from the ECB still echo in my brain, but that arrogant man would not listen and was it any wonder with economic policies like that been favored by the party members that this country collapsed. Not to mention how FF have a strange way of dealing with taxation and bribery.

sligojoek · 24-02-2014 12:59AM

JOOOOOOOOOE DUFFEH

rainbow kirby · 24-02-2014 01:00AM

My grandmother still has her 25 year membership of FF certificate, signed by Bertie Ahern, up on the wall. I've long since learned not to mention politics when she's around, the amount of things she'll come up with that are absolutely bat**** insane...

Aongus Von Bismarck · 24-02-2014 01:02AM

Bambi wrote: »

theres the pure gombeen scumbaggery mindset of fianna fail, "twas'nt us, twas de people, twas de sishtem, twas shometing but twas'nt us"

let me tell ya something horse, all through 2000's I sure wasn't voting for fianna fail. I don't think having crooks as leaders is a good thing

Chill out "horse".

You haven't made a coherent point in this thread. Its all just misplaced bluster and anger.

sheesh · 24-02-2014 01:31AM

I think we can all agree that we are totally screwed for choice in the next election!

I fortunately never voted fianna fail in the national elections as I felt that our FF TD was mentally deficient and that I did not want him representing me. he lost his seat in the last election and is trying to get back in the next one hopefully this will not happen. if it does it proves that we (as an electorate) deserve everything that happened to us.

Dyr · 24-02-2014 10:35AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Chill out "horse".

You haven't made a coherent point in this thread. Its all just misplaced bluster and anger.

fianna failers will get nothing but abuse from me horse

dublinman1990 · 24-02-2014 02:47PM

I had voted for Fianna Fail in the last GE because I literally had a lack of choice on to vote for in my constituency. I was only a young guy at the time as I hadn't any rational thought on who to vote for at the time.

This would say to me that I'm not a supporter of FF or any other party.

I am more suited to be voting in referendums rather than voting for politicians because I don't think that the system of Irish party politics works for me as I find it too complex to understand. Another thing that puts me off is the grandstanding of our politicians in our media.

I am more suited to discussing political issues with like-minded people as they don't seem themselves to be out of touch with reality as most of our current lot of politicians are out of touch with reality in collecting their expenses and high pensions. I also prefer to hear about political issues from the UK and from the USA as they can be expressed in a free and open manner unlike what happens here in Ireland.

c_man · 24-02-2014 03:02PM

A good friend of mine is a proud member of his cumann! He's 26, a new teacher and is unashamedly FF. I wouldn't be surprised to see him doing some local work in a few years. I don't get it tbh, I mean he's a smart, sound lad and yet FF

He'd call Ahern and Cowen *****, and seems to yearn towards more like a Lemass FF. Anyways I don't decide friends on politics. Just as well really!

miss no stars · 24-02-2014 03:04PM

There are two types of people who vote for FF.

The first type are the older generation. There are a few of them in the family. One couple won't hear a word bad about them and even if it was quite categorically a FF decision that was rubbish they say "Ahhh no now, FG made them do that that wasn't FF". Another one votes for FF because "my mother died when FG got in". Never mind his mother being in her 90s at the time and the government having nothing to do with her dying...

The second is the type who look around at the options and pick who they believe to be the best politician of the bad lot running in their area. Take my area. There's one good politican but he's VERY left leaning and reckons that people on welfare should be given more. It's a pity, cos I think he's great in every other way, but I really really don't agree that welfare should be increased. So other than him, I have a plonker who'd rather see me die than get a medically necessary termination should I ever be in the situation and a few other wishy-washy eejit independents, we usually have a SFer or two and I can't stand them; and then there's normally a FF. I really don't know who I'll vote for because they're all muppets in their own ways. So it'll come down to "not SF, not against my right to life, not an independent running on one local issue, not in favour of increasing welfare"... Which will probably leave FF. Hobson's choice.

RainMaker · 24-02-2014 03:22PM

I think the whole notion of "supporting" a political party is an insult to democracy!

Political parties should be held accountable for their actions, their popularity should rise and fall based on their performance!

If people are just going to keep voting for the same party over and over regardless of their performance or the state of the country... well people like that just shouldn't be allowed to vote!

cletus van damme · 24-02-2014 03:35PM

i swop and change who i vote for.

I mostly voted green party in recent times as the candidate was the best in my area and I liked his view on how things should be. Although i found him a little pious.

That said I'd have no bother voting Fianna fail.

eireannBEAR · 24-02-2014 03:39PM

SF were the biggest losers in all of this, a lot of people were looking to them as a real alternative to FF/FG and they were not capable of capitalizing on it,If any of the posters with their snotty posts think FG are any different than FF....Well then im lost for words. Its laughable.

Holsten · 24-02-2014 04:11PM

Yes I have, a few of them.

Answers to the question of why is usually met with "Sure I always voted for them" or "They're all the same, it doesn't matter".

eireannBEAR · 24-02-2014 04:13PM

Holsten wrote: »

Yes I have, a few of them.

Answers to the question of why is usually met with "Sure I always voted for them" or "They're all the same, it doesn't matter".

SURE THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!!!

I think you will find thats the answer from most voters.

Kiwi in IE · 24-02-2014 04:20PM

"My Father was a FF supporter so I shall be too for the rest of my days. It makes no difference what their polices are. We are a FF family".

I thought this person was taking the p*ss, but sadly not.

cometogether · 24-02-2014 04:31PM

I really doubt I'll vote in the next general election. Which is a shame, because it'll be my first time being eligible to do so

bbbaldy · 24-02-2014 06:37PM

My father is one of the generation that blindly supports Fianna Fail regardless of their actions.
Before the last election we spoke of all that they had done wrong and he agreed with most of my opinions on their corruption, jobs for the boys etc,etc. When polling day came I asked who he voted for, (assuming that he had seen the light), he said 'Fianna Fail #1, 2 and 3' I said 'but you know that they wrecked the country' his reply was ' but shure who else would I vote for'.

Big Bucks · 24-02-2014 06:43PM

cometogether wrote: »

I really doubt I'll vote in the next general election. Which is a shame, because it'll be my first time being eligible to do so

Regardless of your thoughts on the candidates i would always find a way to cast my vote and especially if you are a first time voter.

Shady Tady · 24-02-2014 06:44PM

bbbaldy wrote: »

My father is one of the generation that blindly supports Fianna Fail regardless of their actions.
Before the last election we spoke of all that they had done wrong and he agreed with most of my opinions on their corruption, jobs for the boys etc,etc. When polling day came I asked who he voted for, (assuming that he had seen the light), he said 'Fianna Fail #1, 2 and 3' I said 'but you know that they wrecked the country' his reply was ' but shure who else would I vote for'.

This current government is so rotten they will turn people back to Fianna Fáil. I only recall Fine Gael claiming Fianna Fáil weren't going far enough with tax cuts etc during the Celtic tiger. They wanted even more of the bad policies that have us where we are, those of you who can't see that are every bit as bad as the die hard Fianna Fáil supporter you ridicule!!! What a bull**** thread title.

miss no stars · 24-02-2014 06:59PM

cometogether wrote: »

I really doubt I'll vote in the next general election. Which is a shame, because it'll be my first time being eligible to do so

In that case spoil your vote. A lot of people seem unaware that spoiling your vote actually means something - it means you've taken the effort to go out and vote and have declared that there is nobody (or no option) on the polling card to your satisfaction.

Ghost Buster · 24-02-2014 07:04PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I voted Fianna Fail in the past and I am not ashamed of it. If I return home I will most likely do the same again.

Read a paper, watch a news broadcast and research the legacy of Haughy and Ahern and their associates.

Fred Swanson · 24-02-2014 07:05PM

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eireannBEAR · 24-02-2014 07:07PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Read a paper, watch a news broadcast and research the legacy of Haughy and Ahern and their associates.

Ah history is history,If we turned the tables on the FG supporters,Half the posters here would be wearing blue shirts and chanting fascist slogans!!

Have you ever spoken to a Fianna Fail supporter?

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