Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

NukaCola · 23-02-2014 09:35PM

Vicxas wrote: »

We've a fairly hard march too

Saints - Away (Bloody tough)
2 week break
UTD - Away (Can go either way really)
Cardiff - Away (Can be a toughy)

Whatever about Utd and S'Hampton, Cardiff are absolute muck, just awful.

Chucky the tree · 23-02-2014 09:36PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

We had a scout at the Wolfsburg/Leverkusen match this weekend apparently. Rodriguez? Bender?

Hyypia to come back as our star defender? He can't do much worse than Skrtel, Agger or Toure.

NukaCola · 23-02-2014 09:37PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Hyypia to come back as our star defender? He can't do much worse than Skrtel, Agger or Toure.

Pop up with a goal or two also

billymitchell · 23-02-2014 09:38PM

NukaCola wrote: »

Whatever about Utd and S'Hampton, Cardiff are absolute muck, just awful.

But they are the games we fail to motivate ourselves for!

NukaCola · 23-02-2014 09:41PM

billymitchell wrote: »

But they are the games we fail to motivate ourselves for!

What are you talking about?

redzerdrog · 23-02-2014 09:42PM

is match of the day on tonight?

stampydmonkey · 23-02-2014 09:45PM

redzerdrog wrote: »

is match of the day on tonight?

YUP, 10.25PM

klose · 23-02-2014 09:45PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

We had a scout at the Wolfsburg/Leverkusen match this weekend apparently. Rodriguez? Bender?

Bender or gustavo hopefully, xhaka i hear good things about too.

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 09:45PM

redzerdrog wrote: »

is match of the day on tonight?

10.25pm, BBC1

Gbear · 23-02-2014 09:46PM

klose wrote: »

Bender or gustavo hopefully, xhaka i hear good things about too.

Granit Xhaka.

What a ****ing name that is.

billymitchell · 23-02-2014 09:46PM

When is Lucas back?

klose · 23-02-2014 09:48PM

Gbear wrote: »

Granit Xhaka.

What a ****ing name that is.

Definitely the hard bastard we need in midfield.....

Agueroooo · 23-02-2014 09:48PM

Gbear wrote: »

Granit Xhaka.

What a ****ing name that is.

We've been scouting him for a while I think.

whatawaster · 23-02-2014 09:50PM

We are 6 players short of were we want to be.

The Ukranian lad, or another attacker
A central midfielder
A right back
A left back
A centre back
A sub goalkeeper

The only defenders I hope are at the club next season are Flanagan, Wisdom, Sakho, Illori and Enrique, and out of those only Sakho should be first choice.

Mignolet getting stuck to his line is becoming a real problem imo. My preference would be a keeper flying out a la Reina or Lloris. But if he is not going to come, then the defenders should know that and should deal with the ****ing situation. Skrtel is constantly looking at Mignolet as if he can't believe he is not coming to deal with situation. Communication is key and it's clearly lacking between those two in particular. Overall, Mignolet has had a good season and has gained us a lot more points than he has cost us (I reckon he has cost us 4/5 points). But I do wonder if he is the long term ideal option for us. He needs re-inventing to a certain extent. He has improved on the ball somewhat as the season has gone on, but he doesn't command the area well at all imo.

I don't buy into the praise that Skrtel has got this season. One or two immense performances, yes, but has more often han not looked like an accident waiting to happen. Sakho looks to have all the tools for me. Great on the ball, strong and DECISIVE. That's the big thing for me. Doesn't mess about, just deals with things. Gets it wrong sometimes, but so does every defender.

Agger should go, imo. He is just not the defender he is made out to be and hasn't lived up to his potential. What's more I think the notion that he is great on the ball is overplayed. He's decent, sure, and this was amplified playing next to Skrtel or Carragher, but he is nothing special.

Toure will probably stay for his experience and because he will accept playing second fiddle in a way that Agger or Skrtel won't (or shouldn't).

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 09:51PM

Could be for one from Perisic, Trasch or Sam too. All players we've been linked to before.

Dont be at yourself · 23-02-2014 09:54PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Could be for one from Perisic, Trasch or Sam too. All players we've been linked to before.

Sam's on his way to Schalke.

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 09:55PM

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Sam's on his way to Schalke.

Derp, forgot about that.

NukaCola · 23-02-2014 09:57PM

billymitchell wrote: »

But they are the games we fail to motivate ourselves for!

NukaCola wrote: »

What are you talking about?

Just to follow up on why your post was confusing

Points versus bottom 10

Fulham 6/6
Cardiff 3/3
Sunderland 3/3
West Brom 4/6
Crystal Palace 3/3
Stoke 6/6
Norwich 3/3
Aston Villa 4/6
Swansea 4/6
Hull 3/6
West Ham 3/3

42 points out of a possible 51. 1 loss in 17 versus the bottom 10.

Gmol · 23-02-2014 09:57PM

whatawaster wrote: »

We are 6 players short of were we want to be.

The Ukranian lad, or another attacker
A central midfielder
A right back
A left back
A centre back
A sub goalkeeper

The only defenders I hope are at the club next season are Flanagan, Wisdom, Sakho, Illori and Enrique, and out of those only Sakho should be first choice.

Mignolet getting stuck to his line is becoming a real problem imo. My preference would be a keeper flying out a la Reina or Lloris. But if he is not going to come, then the defenders should know that and should deal with the ****ing situation. Skrtel is constantly looking at Mignolet as if he can't believe he is not coming to deal with situation. Communication is key and it's clearly lacking between those two in particular. Overall, Mignolet has had a good season and has gained us a lot more points than he has cost us (I reckon he has cost us 4/5 points). But I do wonder if he is the long term ideal option for us. He needs re-inventing to a certain extent. He has improved on the ball somewhat as the season has gone on, but he doesn't command the area well at all imo.

I don't buy into the praise that Skrtel has got this season. One or two immense performances, yes, but has more often han not looked like an accident waiting to happen. Sakho looks to have all the tools for me. Great on the ball, strong and DECISIVE. That's the big thing for me. Doesn't mess about, just deals with things. Gets it wrong sometimes, but so does every defender.

Agger should go, imo. He is just not the defender he is made out to be and hasn't lived up to his potential. What's more I think the notion that he is great on the ball is overplayed. He's decent, sure, and this was amplified playing next to Skrtel or Carragher, but he is nothing special.

Toure will probably stay for his experience and because he will accept playing second fiddle in a way that Agger or Skrtel won't (or shouldn't).

6 would be a bit too much to bring in, Skrtel is fine as long as Sakho is fit. Having Gerrard as the sole cover is a problem in certain games especially if the 5 in front do not hary the opposition

michael999999 · 23-02-2014 09:58PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

We had a scout at the Wolfsburg/Leverkusen match this weekend apparently. Rodriguez? Bender?

Hyppia back as defensive coach hopefully!

MR NINE · 23-02-2014 09:59PM

I have to say ive been pretty happy with sakho so far, and im desperately looking forward to seeing him back in the starting eleven. I think he can become an important player and should hopefully benefit from an extended run of first team football if he can stay fit

whatawaster · 23-02-2014 10:02PM

Gmol wrote: »

6 would be a bit too much to bring in, Skrtel is fine as long as Sakho is fit. Having Gerrard as the sole cover is a problem in certain games especially if the 5 in front do not hary the opposition

Probably is too much to bring in. One defender, one attacker and one midfielder, each of whom improve the first 11 would be a great starting point. After that, any other additions would be a bonus.

DrumSteve · 23-02-2014 10:03PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Could be for one from Perisic, Trasch or Sam too. All players we've been linked to before.

What about Dede?

Kerrigooney · 23-02-2014 10:08PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Southampton have won 1 from their last 7 league games at home.

Don't care...they have a hex on us. A hex I tell ya.

whatawaster · 23-02-2014 10:12PM

One of Coutinho or Sterling might have to be sacrificed next weekend. Probably Coutinho.

Kerrigooney · 23-02-2014 10:12PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

We had a scout at the Wolfsburg/Leverkusen match this weekend apparently. Rodriguez? Bender?

Toprak,Bender and Rodriguez according to some on Twitter.

Courtesy Flush · 23-02-2014 10:13PM

We were very exposed in midfield and defence today. The Swansea midfield had so much space to run into
The centre halves are all accidents waiting to happen. The basis for any team is a solid partnership at the back. I dont see it
Just as well we have great forwards !!

K-9 · 23-02-2014 10:13PM

K-9 wrote: »

Closer to top than 4th, white coats would have been needed if I thought that at the start of the season.

We need 20/33 points to finish on 76 which is effectively 77 for us, we can fall below our target of 2 ppg, which given the next 3 away games is good.

Spurs need 27/33!

United need 11 wins!

Just on the 77 point thing a few posters picked up on, the above is based on Liverpool finishing on 76 points, ties in with Morzadec's table he is doing all season.

Spurs and United points are based on them getting 77 and 78 points respectively as they'll need to if we get 76.

Also it's mathematically impossible for United to finish on 77, 78 is the maximum they can get. Everton need 32/36 points.

John Henry tweeted on the January 2 that the odds of finishing 4th were 61% Liverpool, 30% United, Everton 20 and Spurs 12. We must be 70%+ at this stage. Sherwoods saying Spurs could lose 4 or 5 looks extremely unlikely after today, put it that way, they'll need to go on an Arsenal type run last season to get 76. 73/74 looks more the target for 4th after today, 76 would guarantee it.

Kerrigooney · 23-02-2014 10:13PM

whatawaster wrote: »

One of Coutinho or Sterling might have to be sacrificed next weekend. Probably Coutinho.

Should be. No way Sterling deserves to lose his place. He's fantastic atm.

Tusky · 23-02-2014 10:16PM

whatawaster wrote: »

One of Coutinho or Sterling might have to be sacrificed next weekend. Probably Coutinho.

Sterling is so much more consistent than Coutiniho. I'd say the Brazilian has only had about five or six good games this season. They mostly probably came in 2014 though.

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