Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

DrumSteve · 23-02-2014 05:40PM

I think saying Mig is a dud is a bit much.

Without some of his earlier performances we would not be where we are now.

Tusky · 23-02-2014 05:42PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

He wasn't at fault for goals today, agreed, but he had a poor game. I'm baffled by people making excuses for him in here is all.

But he has a pretty good excuse - the defensive displays in front of him have been shocking. Even the most confident, established goalkeepers in the world would look a bit shaky with that defence in front of them.

Mr Alan wrote: »

No. I was one of the people who said letting Reina go on loan was retarded though. And I stand by that opinion as I feel having a goalkeeper of Reinas ability would have been beneficial this season when Mignolet could have done with dropping.

Mingolet was excellent at the start of the season, then he had a poor spell and since then he has been decent. Look back at Reina's final season for Liverpool, his lows were significantly lower than Mingolet's and he didn't have many highs.

Mr Alan · 23-02-2014 05:43PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

I think saying Mig is a dud is a bit much.

Without some of his earlier performances we would not be where we are now.

Any good he's brought has been offset by bad mistakes he has made IMO.

I'm not saying he's a dud, but there's still serious question marks.

ush · 23-02-2014 05:43PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

I think saying Mig is a dud is a bit much.

Without some of his earlier performances we would not be where we are now.

Dr Steve will fix him.

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 05:44PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

No. I was one of the people who said letting Reina go on loan was retarded though. And I stand by that opinion as I feel having a goalkeeper of Reinas ability would have been beneficial this season when Mignolet could have done with dropping.

Why don't Chelsea do that with Courtois and Cech in that case? They can surely afford to keep both on their books if they so wish.

There's only one club with two keepers of good standing on their books and that's Real Madrid with Casillas and Diego Lopez.

The vast majority of keepers are going to be unsettled somewhat with non-consistent back line, one that's chopping and changing pretty much week in and week out.

Mr Alan · 23-02-2014 05:45PM

Tusky wrote: »

But he has a pretty good excuse - the defensive displays in front of him have been shocking. Even the most confident, established goalkeepers in the world would look a bit shaky with that defence in front of them.

He has looked shaky in most facets of his performance for a couple of months now. **** all of it is to do with the players in front of him. As I said, bewildered by people looking for excuses for him.

Using your same logic, maybe the defence looks shakey because they've no confidence in the goalie behind them?

opr · 23-02-2014 05:46PM

Tusky wrote: »

Excuses? The only criticism of him appears to be that he was reluctant to come off his line. We conceded precisely zero goals as a result. He was not the issue today and has not been the issue all season.

He comes for virtually nothing ever.

The amount of times he kicked long today because he wasn't comfortable playing it out from the back under a bit of pressure was a joke. Rodgers' actually went mental on the sidelines after one of the times he opted to kick it long instead of play the pass.

Opr

Mr Alan · 23-02-2014 05:46PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Why don't Chelsea do that with Courtois and Cech in that case? They can surely afford to keep both on their books if they so wish.

There's only one club with two keepers of good standing on their books and that's Real Madrid with Casillas and Diego Lopez.

The vast majority of keepers are going to be unsettled somewhat with non-consistent back line, one that's chopping and changing pretty much week in and week out.

Look at some of the non-entities at our club/on our wage bill & there is no reason we couldn't have done it.

23-02-2014 05:48PM

Mig is far from a dud but when balls come in high to the box he makes me nervous.

hefferboi · 23-02-2014 05:50PM

Goalkeeper is far from the problem position for us.

DrumSteve · 23-02-2014 05:50PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Any good he's brought has been offset by bad mistakes he has made IMO.

I'm not saying he's a dud, but there's still serious question marks.

If the defence was performing well id be more inclined to agree with you.

mav79 · 23-02-2014 05:51PM

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

Vinz Mesrine · 23-02-2014 05:52PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Defence definitely wasn't helped by our midfield alright. Need Lucas back soon as possible.

Who would you drop? Gerrard and Hendo in their current roles are undroppable imo.

daithijjj · 23-02-2014 05:53PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Why don't Chelsea do that with Courtois and Cech in that case? They can surely afford to keep both on their books if they so wish.

There's only one club with two keepers of good standing on their books and that's Real Madrid with Casillas and Diego Lopez.

The vast majority of keepers are going to be unsettled somewhat with non-consistent back line, one that's chopping and changing pretty much week in and week out.

Probably because they are players at either end of their careers (Courtois and Reina i mean). Chelsea loaned a young keeper and brought in an old hand in Schwarzer.

Turtyturd · 23-02-2014 05:53PM

mav79 wrote: »

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

Didn't he get dropped at one stage?

'The Rodgers' managed to get one over on a manager Rafa managed a draw against btw.:pac:

Zapp Brannigan · 23-02-2014 05:53PM

Hopefully Skrtel will cop on now and stop grabbing attackers in the box.

Washington Irving · 23-02-2014 05:54PM

Mignolet is far from perfect, but I feel a lot more comfortable with him in goal than I was with Reina for his last two seasons.

I know the argument has been made that Reina proved himself as a top class keeper for Liverpool in previous years and while he was fantastic he did play with a solid backline in front of him and in a defensively sound Benitez system where he wasn't put into difficult positions near as much as Mignolet has been.

klose · 23-02-2014 05:55PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Look at some of the non-entities at our club/on our wage bill & there is no reason we couldn't have done it.

I would have rather we sold reina but loaning him out was correct tbh, who keeps a 100k+ wages per week declining keeper on the bench?

Utopia Parkway · 23-02-2014 05:55PM

mav79 wrote: »

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

He lost his place has he not? At least he did until recently. I know he played against Swansea during the week.

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 05:56PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Look at some of the non-entities at our club/on our wage bill & there is no reason we couldn't have done it.

Reina was never going to risk his WC place by sitting on the bench for a year quote potentially, even if he's merely as a cheerleader for the national side.

5live · 23-02-2014 05:56PM

Just wondering....

Has anybody seen Rodgers and Keegan in the same place at the same time?

No??

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 05:57PM

mav79 wrote: »

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

He's been average at best alright.

Turtyturd · 23-02-2014 05:57PM

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Hopefully Skrtel will cop on now and stop grabbing attackers in the box.

He will have to be careful. Nearly every defender does it at nearly every set piece but the spotlight is currently on him. Hopefully he can ride it out.

Gmol · 23-02-2014 05:59PM

A few points from the match today, we were way too open, Gerrard kept losing Shelvey and a better player would have scored 3. Agger is poor against more physical strikers. This affects Skrtels game. I think Agger will be moved on this summer.
Allen should have come on for Coutinho at half time. Moses is crap. I wouldn't even bother having him on the bench at this stage.

klose · 23-02-2014 06:05PM

Gmol wrote: »

A few points from the match today, we were way too open, Gerrard kept losing Shelvey and a better player would have scored 3. Agger is poor against more physical strikers. This affects Skrtels game. I think After will be moved on this summer.
Allen should have come on for Coutinho at half time. Moses is crap. I wouldn't even bother having him on the bench at this stage.

I read rodgers said he brought toure on for agger to add more physicality, not exactly what you would want to hear if you were him. Id imagine either him or skrtel will be gone in the summer.

23-02-2014 06:06PM

Norwich 1-0 :cool:

Not a chance they'll hang on, not a chance

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 06:06PM

Ssssh!

edit - Rarnes, why

NapoleonInRags · 23-02-2014 06:06PM

go on the Canaries!!

Lapin · 23-02-2014 06:06PM

Norwich score !!!!

23-02-2014 06:07PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Ssssh!

edit - Rarnes, why

ninja edit (me that is)

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