Grown Men who can't drive. Do you find them weird?

SFS 505 · 21-02-2014 10:58AM

FollatonWood wrote: »

The only time I get the bus is to work and to be honest I quite like the journey - I just zone out with my earphones in. Other than that, I walk everywhere.

I'd go for either rather than being stuck in traffic!

Well I'd hate to not have the option of renting a car when going on holidays.

It's insanity not learning how to drive.

HooohRaaah · 21-02-2014 11:05AM

SFS 505 wrote: »

Well I'd hate to not have the option of renting a car when going on holidays.

It's insanity not learning how to drive.

But they all love walking and getting on packed buses. They don't mind the wind and rain!!! Cars are for losers :rolleyes:

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:06AM

HooohRaaah wrote: »

Ah yes, every single time we get into the car there's traffic :rolleyes:

I say it's great walking everywhere in this beautiful Irish weather

I don't think that at all. But it's not raining every single time I go walking either

enda1 · 21-02-2014 11:06AM

HooohRaaah wrote: »

Your name is Enda.

Right so you've no point. Grand.

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:07AM

HooohRaaah wrote: »

But they all love walking and getting on packed buses. They don't mind the wind and rain!!! Cars are for losers :rolleyes:

Whoah, defensive much? I never said that. Fair play to anyone who feels they need and can afford a car. My point is, I don't 'need' one, so I don't see a reason to add it as an expenditure.

jimgoose · 21-02-2014 11:08AM

enda1 wrote: »

I don't quite understand you

Just because you have something as a necessity, doesn't mean you have some interest in it outside of it's necessity. I have a toothbrush because I was to keep my teeth clean. I have no interest in my toothbrush.

Having "an interest" in something does not necessarily mean that you like/enjoy/have sex with the thing for and of itself. You have more interest in your toothbrush than someone who doesn't brush their teeth.

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:08AM

SFS 505 wrote: »

Well I'd hate to not have the option of renting a car when going on holidays.

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That's actually the reason I probably will learn eventually, as I mentioned previously. But I doubt I'll be buying a car, as I don't need one.

ronjo · 21-02-2014 11:09AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I'm 36 and studying for the theory test at the moment. I'm sick of asking for lifts to places or coming back from the supermarket with a heavy bag of groceries. I've always had a fear of learning to drive but its now time to overcome that fear.

Fair play.... You can do it.
I was 35 and was terrified at the start but you really will get over it with practice and then wonder why the f*ck didnt I do this years ago,

rainbow kirby · 21-02-2014 11:09AM

HooohRaaah wrote: »

So the people who say "I live in a city so I don't have to" Are you people happy sitting on packed bus and having to stand waiting on it in occasional wind and rain?

Even if I could drive, I'd rather be sporked in the face repeatedly than drive into central London every day. It would cost me around 50 quid a week in congestion charges anyway, what a waste - particularly considering it only takes 20 minutes to get into work on the tube anyway.

NTMK · 21-02-2014 11:12AM

FollatonWood wrote: »

Whoah, defensive much? I never said that. Fair play to anyone who feels they need and can afford a car. My point is, I don't 'need' one, so I don't see a reason to add it as an expenditure.

This is pretty much it for me. i dont need one at all im a 5 minute walk from work, a ten minute walk to the city centre and a 20 minute train ride from london its just a waste of money for me

Needed it at home because i lived in a rural area but i see no real need for one

enda1 · 21-02-2014 11:13AM

jimgoose wrote: »

Having "an interest" in something does not necessarily mean that you like/enjoy/have sex with the thing for and of itself. You have more interest in your toothbrush than someone who doesn't brush their teeth.

Yes it does unless you're trying to be anally pedantic. Why bother even use the word interest if all you mean is have. You said that some people don't have a car because they have no interest in one.

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:14AM

NTMK wrote: »

This is pretty much it for me. i dont need one at all im a 5 minute walk from work, a ten minute walk to the city centre and a 20 minute train ride from london its just a waste of money for me

Needed it at home because i lived in a rural area but i see no real need for one

My boss a few years ago was minted but ended up selling her Audi because it was literally sitting in the garage 24/7!

jimgoose · 21-02-2014 11:15AM

enda1 wrote: »

Yes it does unless you're trying to be anally pedantic. Why bother even use the word interest if all you mean is have. You said that some people don't have a car because they have no interest in one.

Because then I would have said that some people don't bother with cars because they don't have one, which would make no sense whatsoever.

enda1 · 21-02-2014 11:18AM

jimgoose wrote: »

Having "an interest" in something does not necessarily mean that you like/enjoy/have sex with the thing for and of itself. You have more interest in your toothbrush than someone who doesn't brush their teeth.

jimgoose wrote: »

Because then I would have said that some people don't bother with cars because they don't have one, which would make no sense whatsoever.

I agree that your point made little sense based upon your own reasoning.

jimgoose · 21-02-2014 11:20AM

enda1 wrote: »

I agree that your point made little sense based upon your own reasoning.

That isn't what I said at all, and well you know it. Just as well I'm one of the reasonable, tolerant petrol-heads in this thread - imagine if I was actually arguing with you over something??

noodler · 21-02-2014 11:33AM

Whats the cheapest someone reckons you could run a car (something very small, just inside the ten year bracket, including fuel, insurance etc?).

For those who don't drive, and would probably only drive on ocassion even if they did, this cost needs to be weighed against the benefit of having the option.

Blowfish · 21-02-2014 11:35AM

HooohRaaah wrote: »

So the people who say "I live in a city so I don't have to" Are you people happy sitting on packed bus and having to stand waiting on it in occasional wind and rain?

I live in Dublin and haven't had to get the bus for about 6 months. On rare occasions I do get the Luas or Dart, but both are quicker than driving and have covered platforms so you don't get wet. They also allow me to browse the web, watch Netflix etc. while on them, which you can't do while driving.

If it comes to the point where I find driving will be useful to me in the future, then sure, I'll learn to drive, but right now, it's simply not worth the cost.

enda1 · 21-02-2014 11:36AM

noodler wrote: »

Whats the cheapest someone reckons you could run a car (something very small, just inside the ten year bracket, including fuel, insurance etc?).

For those who don't drive, and would probably only drive on ocassion even if they did, this cost needs to be weighed against the benefit of having the option.

The option of driving need not be owning a car. You can rent cars of use car pool systems of get a lend of a car. The ability and right to drive (full license) is what's important.

To answer the cost question: I'd say €1000/year would be about the minimum at least to start. This could drop if your insurance does over time.

jimgoose · 21-02-2014 11:40AM

enda1 wrote: »

...To answer the cost question: I'd say €1000/year would be about the minimum at least to start. This could drop if your insurance does over time.

It'd tighten you to do it on that. Assuming a seasoned enough person who's insurance costs about €400 on a 1-litre city runabout. Motor tax on that would be €200, another €150 or so for an annual service. Then you have tyres and around €700 per-annum on petrol, assuming very light mileage.

SFS 505 · 21-02-2014 11:45AM

TBH when I hear people say they "have no interest" in driving I think that usually means they are just too afraid to learn to drive. It's scary for most people when starting but once you get over that it seems ridiculous how scared you were.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-02-2014 11:47AM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Yeh I know, but was just using it as an example of how driving is not laziness, just being practical.

I see your point, but for me getting the metro is just as practical. And, as I said earlier, if I did drive, I'd be about 5 stone heavier!

Maximus Alexander · 21-02-2014 11:49AM

Thread seems to be focusing on the practicality of owning a car, but that's not what the question was. The question was about people being able to drive. I totally get why someone might not own a car in the city, I find it strange if an adult doesn't know how to drive though.

Scarinae · 21-02-2014 11:49AM

HooohRaaah wrote: »

So the people who say "I live in a city so I don't have to" Are you people happy sitting on packed bus and having to stand waiting on it in occasional wind and rain?

Yes, I'm in London which genuinely does have good public transport. I'd probably drive if I lived in Dublin though, I absolutely hate Dublin Bus

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:50AM

Scarinae wrote: »

Yes, I'm in London which genuinely does have good public transport. I'd probably drive if I lived in Dublin though, I absolutely hate Dublin Bus

Depends where you live really, if you're on a dart or luas line you're set.

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:51AM

SFS 505 wrote: »

TBH when I hear people say they "have no interest" in driving I think that usually means they are just too afraid to learn to drive. It's scary for most people when starting but once you get over that it seems ridiculous how scared you were.

That's a bit of an assumption TBH. I did a few lessons and got bored because I knew I wouldn't be buying a car in the near future plus was in college and needed the cash I was spending on lessons.

SFS 505 · 21-02-2014 11:55AM

FollatonWood wrote: »

That's a bit of an assumption TBH. I did a few lessons and got bored because I knew I wouldn't be buying a car in the near future plus was in college and needed the cash I was spending on lessons.

Did you say to people that you "had no interest"?

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:57AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I find it strange if an adult doesn't know how to drive though.

Why?

FollatonWood · 21-02-2014 11:58AM

SFS 505 wrote: »

Did you say to people that you "had no interest"?

I had no interest and have no interest... I was referring to your point of this meaning I had a fear of driving - which I definitely do not.

Davarus Walrus · 21-02-2014 11:59AM

I'd have thought that being able to drive a car would be seen as a pretty basic life skill. What if your partner was pregnant and her waters broke? Stand around looking at the Hailo app to see what time Jimmy H will pull up so the pair of you can go to the hospital?

Maximus Alexander · 21-02-2014 11:59AM

FollatonWood wrote: »

Why?

I don't know really. It seems to me like such basic knowledge in the modern world. I would also find it strange if someone couldn't ride a bicycle or use a washing machine for example. Or send an email.

Grown Men who can't drive. Do you find them weird?

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