Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

Kess73 · 20-02-2014 01:58PM

Dickerty wrote: »

I hear you, would like to think that our youths will provide the emergency and cup cover as need with the likes of Ibe, Rossiter, Wilson, Smith, even Sinclair all capable of showing up (assume Teix and McLaughlin on loan).
In fact, I think Ibe might go out as well, but I suspect Rossiter might be a one the keep close to home and bring straight through, he's that good...

How about Porto? And we get a 10% discount on all future purchases!

Porto generally don't loan in a lot of top young talent, they just go out and buy them instead.

Hell of a successful club when it comes to spotting and buying in young players and then moving them on for a massive profit.

Nuri Sahin · 20-02-2014 01:59PM

Porto don't do loans, nor sign players from Spain. Benfica or Sporting would be the opposite. Both have a long history of signing Spanish players.

Kess73 · 20-02-2014 02:00PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I think alot of us on here think Derby is a good club to send players on loan to.

But mainly I want players to go on loan there because Steve McClaren is a very good coach and our young players can learn a lot from him as well as getting game time.

Yep. Exactly the reason I would want our young players going there. People can say what they like about the guy as a manager, but as a coach he is very good, especially with young player.

By all accounts he is quite progressive with training methods and the like as well.

Kess73 · 20-02-2014 02:10PM

Raif Severance wrote: »

He can be of use, like an Alberto-kind of use. Like I said, he's better off with another Loan.

Suso has played all his Senior Games, as a Winger. Unfortunately, we have much better. So we don't really need him there.

Could we use him in Midfield? Sure, but I wouldn't play Suso there yet. Suso has alot to learn before I'd trust him there.

His Off-the-Ball Work Ethic is bad and his Defensive Positional-sense in Non-Existent.

FYI, Suso currently has 8 Yellow Cards in 22 Games. And that as a Winger. Now Imagine him as a Midfielder.

Yeah he is a right little card magnet alright.

K-9 · 20-02-2014 02:16PM

Suso would have to be ahead of Alberto in the pecking order, suppose it depends on transfers during the Summer but we don't have a hell of a lot of cover there.

Paulegend · 20-02-2014 02:27PM

K-9 wrote: »

Suso would have to be ahead of Alberto in the pecking order, suppose it depends on transfers during the Summer but we don't have a hell of a lot of cover there.

you kidding?? we have coutinho suso alberto and then tex playing that attacking center role. i think that area of the pitch is fine. even allen and hendo can play there if need be and gerrard was born for the role. its probably the one position we dont need to get cover for.

Agent Coulson · 20-02-2014 02:31PM

Paulegend wrote: »

you kidding?? we have coutinho suso alberto and then tex playing that attacking center role. i think that area of the pitch is fine. even allen and hendo can play there if need be and gerrard was born for the role. its probably the one position we dont need to get cover for.

They have maybe 5 full first team matches in a Liverpool jersey between them. I would call that a lack of cover for a starting position to be honest.

K-9 · 20-02-2014 02:41PM

Suso is the only one with decent experience, Alberto hasn't had much experience lately and Tex has just got his first sub appearance in the PL, the last 2 probably need loans. It's very doubtful Gerrard will ever play in that position again no matter how many fans want it.

Paulegend · 20-02-2014 02:47PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

They have maybe 5 full first team matches in a Liverpool jersey between them. I would call that a lack of cover for a starting position to be honest.

well as far as im concerned suso will be like a new player coming to us. in terms of his "run" here never really got going. so he will be new to the team in a way. so he is an unknown factor. he has looked like he has a lot of potential though. (no reason why suso cant be backup to coutinho next season. coming on from the bench with 10 or so minutes to go and starting in the cup games)

alberto has looked decent and i think its fair that he can be mentioned as a backup player. (should be playing back up to suso in the cup games. perhaps they could both be slotted in for some games)

tex is young. unfair to think of him as someone who can fill a void but at his age next season he should be expected to play in at least up to 10 games (probably from the bench)

aspas could also play there.

we aint going to spend more than 10 million on that position in the summer considering we have options. besides center defence on paper our attacking center mid is our strongest position.

we need a wide player and to sort out the full backs. possibly a center back depending on who leaves. then we need a defensive type mid. i think they will be the areas we focus on this summer.

Utopia Parkway · 20-02-2014 02:51PM

Looking forward to seeing how Ibe develops. I know many who follow the youth set-up closely feel he can be even better than Sterling. Although that was before Sterling made such dramatic progress over the past 6 months.

shamrock55 · 20-02-2014 02:52PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Im just watching lfc tv and aldos team of 87-88, and it just got me thinking if our current 11 would beat that team?[CENTER

brucie
nicol gillespie hanson ablet

houghton spackman mcmahon barnes

beardsley aldo

this is the team that beat forest 5-0 in one of the greatest displays ever for a liverpool team, so you could put whealen in there instead of spackman normally

just wondering would any of our current side get in that team and could our current team beat them

personally i think the above back 4 and keeper stays the same, id put stevie instead of spackman or whealan,and of course luis most probably instead of beardsley,

i think if the 2 teams played 10 games in a row our current team might get 1 win and a couple of draws at best

what you guys think?[/CENTER]

any ideas on this??

Agent Coulson · 20-02-2014 02:56PM

Paulegend wrote: »

we aint going to spend more than 10 million on that position in the summer considering we have options. besides center defence on paper our attacking center mid is our strongest position.

Well considering you veiw on us getting Hummels, Shaw, Coleman, Moura, Keane and Basquets by loaning players in exchange.

I'm sure we could find more £10 million for a player in that position or sure we could loan out someome else Aspas maybe and get Messi as a back up.

Paulegend · 20-02-2014 03:07PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Well considering you veiw on us getting Hummels, Shaw, Coleman, Moura, Keane and Basquets by loaning players in exchange.

I'm sure we could find more £10 million for a player in that position or sure we could loan out someome else Aspas maybe and get Messi as a back up.

touche

but in real world the difference is we will probably spend up to 50 million this summer at the most. that includes any player sales. i doubt we will see more than that been spent. if that figure is close to reality then how could we possibly spend money on that position?

we might however get a player who can play both there and out wide. that is very possible

jcsoulinger · 20-02-2014 03:25PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

any ideas on this??

I think football players and the game have evolved allot since then, making comparisons is difficult and of no relevance really. The current squad of players would beat the older team every time IMO.

djPSB · 20-02-2014 03:59PM

Paulegend wrote: »

well as far as im concerned suso will be like a new player coming to us. in terms of his "run" here never really got going. so he will be new to the team in a way. so he is an unknown factor. he has looked like he has a lot of potential though. (no reason why suso cant be backup to coutinho next season. coming on from the bench with 10 or so minutes to go and starting in the cup games)

alberto has looked decent and i think its fair that he can be mentioned as a backup player. (should be playing back up to suso in the cup games. perhaps they could both be slotted in for some games)

tex is young. unfair to think of him as someone who can fill a void but at his age next season he should be expected to play in at least up to 10 games (probably from the bench)

aspas could also play there.

we aint going to spend more than 10 million on that position in the summer considering we have options. besides center defence on paper our attacking center mid is our strongest position.

we need a wide player and to sort out the full backs. possibly a center back depending on who leaves. then we need a defensive type mid. i think they will be the areas we focus on this summer.

Tex looked just as accomplished as Suso or Alberto in his cameo against Fulham.

Was confident on the ball and didn't try to hide. Bearing in mind it was very tough game to make your debut in.

hefferboi · 20-02-2014 04:00PM

I'd love if we could set up a b team and play it in the championship like in Spain. We'd have a handy team.

Reina
McLaughlin/Kelly--Llori---Toure---Robinson/Smith

Teixera

Suso

Alberto

Ibe

Assaidi---

Borini

shamrock55 · 20-02-2014 04:05PM

jcsoulinger wrote: »

I think football players and the game have evolved allot since then, making comparisons is difficult and of no relevance really. The current squad of players would beat the older team every time IMO.

Did you used to watch that team of 88, i doubt this current team would get near it tbh

Iang87 · 20-02-2014 04:08PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Did you used to watch that team of 88, i doubt this current team would get near it tbh

No way team of 88 are nearly in there 50s now. I fancy our current side

.......ok i have my coat

Boom_Bap · 20-02-2014 04:15PM

hefferboi wrote: »

I'd love if we could set up a b team and play it in the championship like in Spain. We'd have a handy team.
Reina
McLaughlin/Kelly--Llori---Toure---Robinson/Smith
Teixera
Suso
Alberto
Ibe
Assaidi---
Borini

I think there are talks of doing something like this.

....and I just found the thing i read on it -> http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/9165365/Scudamore-confirms-B-league-plans

Thud · 20-02-2014 05:04PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Did you used to watch that team of 88, i doubt this current team would get near it tbh

yes but the team of 88 prob went on the lash most weekends after their games (and possibly before), fitness levels would be day and night

8-10 · 20-02-2014 05:14PM

Paulegend wrote: »

in 10 years time will people remember the europa league he won or the time he finished 4th???

Is this another joke or serious post?

Agent Coulson · 20-02-2014 05:16PM

Which memeber of our current would get into the 88 team only 1 for me.

brucie
nicol gillespie hanson ablet

houghton mcmahon barnes

beardsley aldo Suarez

I'd repalce Spackman with Suarez and go 433 that's about it really.

Paulegend · 20-02-2014 05:24PM

8-10 wrote: »

Is this another joke or serious post?

what are you on about???

of course a manager is going to choose actually winning a trophy over finishing 4th place with a team he probably wont spend his career with.

just think Rafa at chelsea. it would have been ridiculous if he came out and said that 4th is more important to him than winning a trophy.

surely you dont need a lesson as to why????

4th place is not remembered. despite what wenger said it doesnt come with a trophy

DrumSteve · 20-02-2014 05:24PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Which memeber of our current would get into the 88 team only 1 for me.

brucie
nicol gillespie hanson ablet

houghton mcmahon barnes

beardsley aldo Suarez

I'd repalce Spackman with Suarez and go 433 that's about it really.

Gerrard ahead of McMahon.

Paulegend · 20-02-2014 05:26PM

djPSB wrote: »

Tex looked just as accomplished as Suso or Alberto in his cameo against Fulham.

Was confident on the ball and didn't try to hide. Bearing in mind it was very tough game to make your debut in.

of course. im not denying that he looks quality. im just saying that the others have played and shown more with the first team. even if it is marginal. i think we would all agree that suso has shown more potential in his games at liverpool and on loan.

alberto and tex are players i like though

Agent Coulson · 20-02-2014 05:30PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Gerrard ahead of McMahon.

Said our current squad. Not when Gerrard was in his prime. In his prime he would be in the 88 team, not now he wouldn't get into it.

8-10 · 20-02-2014 05:35PM

Paulegend wrote: »

what are you on about???

of course a manager is going to choose actually winning a trophy over finishing 4th place with a team he probably wont spend his career with.

just think Rafa at chelsea. it would have been ridiculous if he came out and said that 4th is more important to him than winning a trophy.

surely you dont need a lesson as to why????

4th place is not remembered. despite what wenger said it doesnt come with a trophy

Maybe it's just me but I don't even know what manager won the Europa League 5 years ago let alone 10! (looked it up - Mircea Lucescu, and actually should have known Rafa Benitez 10 years ago but he's not exactly remembered for that)

I think both are as forgettable as each other but maybe that's just me.

Nuri Sahin · 20-02-2014 05:42PM

Slow day is slow.

mike65 · 20-02-2014 05:48PM

Paulegend wrote: »

what are you on about???

of course a manager is going to choose actually winning a trophy over finishing 4th place with a team he probably wont spend his career with.

just think Rafa at chelsea. it would have been ridiculous if he came out and said that 4th is more important to him than winning a trophy.

surely you dont need a lesson as to why????

4th place is not remembered. despite what wenger said it doesnt come with a trophy

Ah come on now any fool knows that 4th place is like the Championship Play Off victory, its not a cup - its the door to better a place full of money! I'd have CL qualification over a poxy EL title any day.

djPSB · 20-02-2014 05:49PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Slow day is slow.

If you had a choice...

Would you fight ten duck sized Luis Suarez or one Luis Suarez sized duck?

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