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How do I obtain a third teaching subject having already qualified?

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  • #32
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    SDowling wrote: »
    I have narrowed it down to Geography and History as I feel they are in demand right now.

    They are not in demand. If you are doing it in terms of demand French, German or Maths would be much better.


  • #33
    lemmno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭lemmno


    From what I hear history will soon be a thing of the past. Pun intended. But on a serious note go for geography if you're between them two as I hear with all the changes history will soon be gone.


  • #34
    gaeilgebeo
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    SDowling wrote: »
    I have narrowed it down to Geography and History as I feel they are in demand right now.

    I don't know where you have gotten this information but it is not accurate.
    There are several history and geography teachers in my school worried about their future employment with history and geography changing to "short courses" at Junior Cert level.
    This could be the case in many schools.
    It will eventually have a knock-on affect on the subjects at LC level.
    I would do a core subject if at all possible.


  • #35
    SDowling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭SDowling


    Language subjects are not my string point and I would rather attain a subject that I would be confident teaching. I had contemplated Business but have been advised that it is not as strong as History or Geography. I am qualified to teach one core subject already, English, and I would have thought that it is common place for most teachers to have one core subject in their combination. I am limited to History, Geography or Business. I would have liked to think that having 3 subjects (one core) along with extra-curricular subjects and very good results and references would be appealing for principals when hiring?

    If any of you are principals I would greatly appreciate your feedback please. Most in demand subjects? I am very serious about my career and very much appreciate all of the feedback so far.

    Thank you.


  • #36
    lemmno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭lemmno


    I'm not a principal but from what I've heard is the most in demand are maths and science. Business is very very very common-a ridiculous percentage of h.dips have it, more so than any other non core subject.


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  • #37
    genieinabottle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭genieinabottle


    Science and maths are not in demand either. Five years and still subbing!!! Most of the people that i know that did the science dip with me are still subbing too.


  • #38
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    genieinabottle wrote: »
    Science and maths are not in demand either. Five years and still subbing!!! Most of the people that i know that did the science dip with me are still subbing too.

    Relatively speaking maths is in demand.


  • #39
    genieinabottle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭genieinabottle


    Its not, I have maths too and so will alot more people this year when the first group of the free maths courses are finished.


  • #40
    lemmno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭lemmno


    All I know is we have 2 unqualified 'maths' teachers in our school as principal couldn't find one. I also know they're offering incentives like scholarships/grants to get people with science to do the dip as there's apparently not enough to meet the demand...


  • #41
    genieinabottle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭genieinabottle


    incentives like scholarships/grants?? I have heard of this in England but not Ireland. Is it something new?


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  • #42
    lemmno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭lemmno


    genieinabottle wrote: »
    incentives like scholarships/grants?? I have heard of this in England but not Ireland. Is it something new?

    Yeah as far as I know this is the first year they did it. I was in NUIG a few weeks ago and my old lecturer was telling me about it-it was the only way to get them in. Anything to make it easier for them to apply. Now maybe I picked him up wrong but as far as I know that was the jist of it.


  • #43
    rainbowtrout
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    lemmno wrote: »
    Yeah as far as I know this is the first year they did it. I was in NUIG a few weeks ago and my old lecturer was telling me about it-it was the only way to get them in. Anything to make it easier for them to apply. Now maybe I picked him up wrong but as far as I know that was the jist of it.

    Not saying the lecturer didn't said that, but given that there are a certain amount of people who do the PDE every year and qualifying in Maths/Science on top of the Science Education degrees in Dublin, Maynooth and Limerick I'd find it very hard to believe that there is any shortage of science graduates for teaching at the moment.


  • #44
    evolving_doors
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    genieinabottle wrote: »
    Its not, I have maths too and so will alot more people this year when the first group of the free maths courses are finished.

    To my knowledge -if it's the 2 yr. part time distance course you are referring to- the teachers who qualified to do that course were already teaching maths!


  • #45
    lemmno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭lemmno


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    Not saying the lecturer didn't said that, but given that there are a certain amount of people who do the PDE every year and qualifying in Maths/Science on top of the Science Education degrees in Dublin, Maynooth and Limerick I'd find it very hard to believe that there is any shortage of science graduates for teaching at the moment.


    http://www.nuigalway.ie/education/downloads/dgo/sparntachta_dgocogg_201314_leagan_barla.pdf

    Here's a link I found on NUIG website confirming it. €1200-2000 bursaries for those who apply with science.


  • #46
    genieinabottle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭genieinabottle


    te="Armelodie;89087508"]To my knowledge -if it's the 2 yr. part time distance course you are referring to- the teachers who qualified to do that course were already teaching maths![/quote]

    I know a few science and business teachers not on full hours that are doing that course hoping to pick up maths hours next year.

    I also know of a girl that got the principal in a school where she was subbing at the time to sign the form and she is also doing the course.


  • #47
    genieinabottle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭genieinabottle


    lemmno wrote: »
    http://www.nuigalway.ie/education/downloads/dgo/sparntachta_dgocogg_201314_leagan_barla.pdf

    Here's a link I found on NUIG website confirming it. €1200-2000 bursaries for those who apply with science.

    To teach through Irish


  • #48
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    genieinabottle wrote: »
    To teach through Irish

    That puts a completely different slant on it.


  • #49
    genieinabottle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭genieinabottle


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    That puts a completely different slant on it.

    Yeah, so no shortage of English speaking science teachers... Shortage of one's that will teach through Irish.


  • #50
    lemmno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭lemmno


    Well at least it shows my lecturer isn't a liar! :D


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