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Grown Men who can't drive. Do you find them weird?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    I'm surprised at anyone (without a medical reason) who lives in Ireland (one of the most car dependent countries on earth) who can't drive.

    Male or female, if you're not driving by 19… I would be wondering why not.

    Good for you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 shs08


    jester77 wrote: »
    Why is it weird?

    I don't drive and don't have a car. Just never needed one, I prefer to live where everything is close by. I was bored about 10 years ago and decided I'd do my driving test, joined the local driving school, did my exams, did the minimum required motorway, city, countryside and night time driving hours, passed the first-aid course and driving test.

    That was the last time I drove a car.
    So you've passed your driving test and can drive. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭HooohRaaah


    When people question somebody as to why they can't drive they seem to get very touchy. That says it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Butterface


    HooohRaaah wrote: »
    People say "oh there's public transport I don't need to drive"
    I find it hard to believe that these people would prefer to be at the mercy of the public transport timetable and to sit in a packed bus that having their own car.

    Nobody said anything about owning a brand new car so I don't get what you're trying to say there.

    Why have I left out half the population? Basically it's more accepted if a woman can't drive.

    The people who complain the most about public transport always seem to be the people who use it the least. Yeah, it's overpriced in Ireland, but any route I've ever had to rely on (having lived in Galway, Dublin, Belfast and Waterford) has never let me down.

    I'm very used to using public transport - planes, trains and buses on a regular basis. I've only had cause to rent a car on one occasion in the past 8 years and that was only because we were going off the beaten track a bit down in Kerry.

    I completely understand the need to own a car when you're living in the countryside and the nearest bus stop is 2 miles away, but not if you're living in a city.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Good for you.

    Well it's reasonable to wonder why not.

    Ireland is extremely hard to function in without at least being able to drive a car. Owning one isn't necessary, but even if you live and work in an urban area it's vital to be able to drive for some things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    I can drive but don't have a car, because financially I cannot afford to keep one on the road, I'm within walking distance of work and very close to an aldi and super value but if I could afford it, I would put a car on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭dm09


    HooohRaaah wrote: »
    Personally I find it odd if a grown man can't drive. Would anybody else share that opinion?

    Yes Kent, Yes I do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    HooohRaaah wrote: »
    Why have I left out half the population? Basically it's more accepted if a woman can't drive.
    Dunno how you come up with that idea.

    HooohRaaah wrote: »
    Personally I find it odd if a grown man can't drive. Would anybody else share that opinion?
    reading this you seem unsure about men, but have your mind made up about women.
    HooohRaaah wrote: »
    There just seems to something really strange if a man is over 24 years of age and can't drive.
    The men are "really strange", do you not even find it remotely strange if women don't drive?

    Any reason for the contrasting view? or did any people who told you its more acceptable for women come up with any ideas?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 shs08


    Butterface wrote: »
    The people who complain the most about public transport always seem to be the people who use it the least. Yeah, it's overpriced in Ireland, but any route I've ever had to rely on (having lived in Galway, Dublin, Belfast and Waterford) has never let me down.

    I'm very used to using public transport - planes, trains and buses on a regular basis. I've only had cause to rent a car on one occasion in the past 8 years and that was only because we were going off the beaten track a bit down in Kerry.

    I completely understand the need to own a car when you're living in the countryside and the nearest bus stop is 2 miles away, but not if you're living in a city.
    Public transport doesn't exist outside Dublin. It would take me 3 hours by public transport to make a journey across Cork City that would take me 15 minutes by car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    If youre living in a city them I guess not but down here in "Bogland" I think I would actually. Fair enough, lost licence or hit the dole etc, that can happen to anyone. But never learning at all? Yeah Id find it surprising. And annoying having to cart your fat hole everywhere:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Boggers tend to find it weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    I am 27 (female) my partner is 30 in April, neither of us can drive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭burnhardlanger


    I can drive but I don't have a license or a car.

    I could drive no problem in an emergency situation.

    But I don't have to pay for;

    Car Loan and it's interest
    Tax
    Insurance
    NCT fees
    Servicing fees
    Fuel
    etc

    Judge me all you want, I'm saving a fortune :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    shs08 wrote: »
    Public transport doesn't exist outside Dublin. It would take me 3 hours by public transport to make a journey across Cork City that would take me 15 minutes by car.

    You would walk across cork city in 3 hours, the bus services in cork city are pretty decent, I've never had a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭HooohRaaah


    I can drive but I don't have a license or a car.

    I could drive no problem in an emergency situation.

    But I don't have to pay for;

    Car Loan and it's interest
    Tax
    Insurance
    NCT fees
    Servicing fees
    Fuel
    etc

    Judge me all you want, I'm saving a fortune :)

    You know how to drive. I'm talking about fellas who can't


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I learned to drive when I was around 31 IIRC as I needed to. I didn't need to before then. Simple really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Bambi wrote: »
    Boggers tend to find it weird

    No it's actually a bit like saying you can't use the internet.

    Dublin is actually extremely car dependent by any standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    HooohRaaah wrote: »
    People say "oh there's public transport I don't need to drive"
    I find it hard to believe that these people would prefer to be at the mercy of the public transport timetable and to sit in a packed bus that having their own car.

    In the last ten years I've been working, I've used public transport to get to work. I could count on one hand the number of times I've been inconvenienced.

    Which is why I don't feel the need to buy a car right now. When I do, I will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I'd consider that a little unusual, but certainly not "weird". I know a good few fellas who can't drive, and a good few more who hold and maintain driver's licenses but don't really bother with the actual car bit. Most of these live in the city, mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Bambi wrote: »
    Boggers tend to find it weird

    Yeah :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Well it's reasonable to wonder why not.

    Ireland is extremely hard to function in without at least being able to drive a car. Owning one isn't necessary, but even if you live and work in an urban area it's vital to be able to drive for some things.

    you seem to to be hinting that non drivers better have a good explanation.
    what kind of reasons would satisfy you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    I think adults who can't drive can be a nuisance. Obviously some are happy to make their own way to places but others constantly expect lifts or for meeting places to be always organised around their lack of ability to drive, or for other family members to do the driving on holidays or to always be the one to not drink around Christmas time so they can be the chauffeur to family parties and get togethers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Butterface


    shs08 wrote: »
    Public transport doesn't exist outside Dublin. It would take me 3 hours by public transport to make a journey across Cork City that would take me 15 minutes by car.

    Have you ever actually used public transport? You keep repeating that it doesn't exist outside Dublin. Fair enough, some people would prefer not to have to rely on it, but many people are happy enough to live without a car.
    If I have to get somewhere and I'm not arsed getting a bus, then I phone a taxi. Have you heard of those? It's a car right, and you pay somebody else to drive you somewhere in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Depends, if they live in the country and have to get lifts from their mom to get around then yeah. If they live in the city/suburbs and have other transport options then no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    jimgoose wrote: »
    I'd consider that a little unusual, but certainly not "weird". I know a good few fellas who can't drive, and a good few more who hold and maintain driver's licenses but don't really bother with the actual car bit. Most of these live in the city, mind.

    Not owning a car or only driving occasionally isn't the same as just not ever learning how to drive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    Not really. If they don't need one and can manage without one, then great.

    My brother in law doesn't drive, but my sister has to drop him to the train every morning and collect him every evening. When she comes to Dublin at the weekend, and he doesn't come up with her, he has to get a taxi to and from wherever he wants to go. Even to the local shop because it's a good bit away. It shouldn't, but it annoys me..mainly because she's a complete pushover and even if she didn't want to get up at 6am to bring him to the train she wouldn't say anything to him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I think adults who can't drive can be a nuisance. Obviously some are happy to make their own way to places but others constantly expect lifts or for meeting places to be always organised around their lack of ability to drive, or for other family members to do the driving on holidays or to always be the one to not drink around Christmas time so they can be the chauffeur to family parties and get togethers.

    Most is spelled m-o-s-t. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Not owning a car or only driving occasionally isn't the same as just not ever learning how to drive.

    Yes, obviously I know that. I'm just musing! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Butterface


    mauzo! wrote: »
    Not really. If they don't need one and can manage without one, then great.

    My brother in law doesn't drive, but my sister has to drop him to the train every morning and collect him every evening. When she comes to Dublin at the weekend, and he doesn't come up with her, he has to get a taxi to and from wherever he wants to go. Even to the local shop because it's a good bit away. It shouldn't, but it annoys me..mainly because she's a complete pushover and even if she didn't want to get up at 6am to bring him to the train she wouldn't say anything to him!

    If you switch the genders in your story above, I'm sure the OP would find it acceptable.. because as we now know, it is less acceptable if a man cannot drive, than if a woman cannot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    I think adults who can't drive can be a nuisance. Obviously some are happy to make their own way to places but others constantly expect lifts or for meeting places to be always organised around their lack of ability to drive, or for other family members to do the driving on holidays or to always be the one to not drink around Christmas time so they can be the chauffeur to family parties and get togethers.
    Most is spelled m-o-s-t. ;)

    What crappy friends you both have. I never expect anything from someone. I carted home a 10kg wide box yesterday by walking and using public transport, it never even entered my head to ask someone for a lift. A lot of people I know are like that (not all, but a lot)


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