Price of drink in the pubs, no wonder we're drinking at home more.

09-02-2014 03:58PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I does make my blood boil when then come out with " Cheap alcohol is the problem" what cheap alcohol ? Were is this cheap alcohol their talking about if were the 2nd most expensive country to buy it in ... Then you have Consultants making stuff up jumping on bandwagons. Do these people do any research or just believe what the government/agenda report says ?

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/consultant-blames-cheap-price-of-alcohol-for-neknomination-craze-29974910.html

Do people not realise that things like this neknomination happen regardless of pricing. Also, it makes more sense for it to happen when booze is expensive as people are trying to get hammered for as little as possible.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 09-02-2014 04:07PM

I think the worst thing from a publicans view is that Irish society is now very much against them. You need only look at this thread to see the amount of people saying "**** the publicans, they are only out ot shaft us. " Even if they reduced the price of drink dramatically in the pubs now (which they won't ) there'd still be that feeling of resentment bubbling away. Plus pre drinking is heavily ingrained in Irish people now, particularly the younger cohort.

hatrickpatrick · 09-02-2014 04:34PM

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

I think the worst thing from a publicans view is that Irish society is now very much against them. You need only look at this thread to see the amount of people saying "**** the publicans, they are only out ot shaft us. " Even if they reduced the price of drink dramatically in the pubs now (which they won't ) there'd still be that feeling of resentment bubbling away.

Why would there be, if they weren't (a) trying to rip people off, and more importantly (b) trying to force others to increase their prices so as they wouldn't have to deal with fair commercial competition?

Plus pre drinking is heavily ingrained in Irish people now, particularly the younger cohort.

It's ingrained because buying drink in a pub is so feckin' expensive.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 09-02-2014 04:39PM

O I know I totally agree that drink is ridiculous in pubs. In my local (student town) the cost of a pint is 5.90. 5 ****ing 90? and its probably the worst pint I've ever had.

darkpagandeath · 09-02-2014 04:43PM

I'm sure as well the Minimum price is to make the pub prices not seem that much more expensive so they can put the price up again. I have an idea just like any business if you cant afford to trade don't. Don't lobby the government saying we cant compete.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 09-02-2014 04:46PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I'm sure as well the Minimum price is to make the pub prices not seem that much more expensive so they can put the price up again. I have an idea just like any business if you cant afford to trade don't. Don't lobby the government saying we cant compete.

But that's the vinters favorite line. Whatever shall they do?

hatrickpatrick · 09-02-2014 04:53PM

The Vinters are gobsh!tes for taking advantage of it, but at the end of the day it's the government who are supposed to have the balls to run the country for the people and not bow to vested interests, so as unfair as this might sound, if minimum pricing etc does come in, even if it was "pushed through" by the Vinters, it's the government I'll be holding responsible.

Never thought I'd live to see the day when the Irish people have to rely on the EU to stick up for them against their own government :mad:

darkpagandeath · 09-02-2014 05:06PM

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-raises-the-spectre-of-drinks-sponsorship-ban-29990927.html

from above article

Writing in today's Irish Independent, Junior Health Minister Alex White said the legislation will mean the end of "dirt-cheap spirits and beer being sold at pocket-money prices".

Were are these people getting these figures from ? And who's pocket money not mine for sure.

harney · 17-02-2014 09:24PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

those countries are not in the EU

The other poster was harping on about Ireland being the second most expensive place in Europe, not the EU.

Don't get me wrong, the prices every time I come back home are ridiculous, however having spent 1 month in Finland and seeing comments from friends in Norway there are worse out there.

I do think the whole publicans association is far too deeply embedded in the pockets/minds of Irish political society, and eventually they are going to need to get a massive slap down.

Dick phelan · 17-02-2014 09:50PM

Minimum pricing is a ****ing joke, the price of drink in this country is already a complete rob, it won't change our drinking culture one bit guess what drink in most other countries is cheaper and they don't have the drinking problems we have, The government and the publicans are using it to push through their own interests. **** the pubs they rob you blind, was in a pub watching the Ireland vs Scotland game cheeky bastards tried to give me a Guinness in a plastic cup, and charge me €5 for it. Frankly the publicans didn't move with the times people have less money than a few years back yet still no change in price, no deals in the majority of pubs frankly it's no surprise people go to the offie instead, far cheaper and often more enjoyable.

Stojkovic · 17-02-2014 10:02PM

Drinking at home is for dipsos.

Banjo String · 17-02-2014 10:20PM

Stojkovic wrote: »

Drinking at home is for dipsos.

No. Drinking round the back of the public jacks with the 3litre bottle of white lightening cider you bought from a few unsuspecting folk who thought they were donating towards that bus" you need to catch, to get home to Waterford". And smoking rollies with tobacco from others discarded fag ends in the gutter is for dipsos Stojkovic.

A well earned six pack after a hard week at work with the remote to yourself, a big bag of crisps or a chipper/pizza isn't in the same bloody league.

Stojkovic · 17-02-2014 10:37PM

Banjo String wrote: »

A well earned six pack after a hard week at work with the remote to yourself, a big bag of crisps or a chipper/pizza isn't in the same bloody league.

Drinking on your own.
How sad.

SamAK · 17-02-2014 10:38PM

Stojkovic wrote: »

Drinking on your own.
How sad.

Trolly troll is trolling!

:cool:

Banjo String · 17-02-2014 10:43PM

Stojkovic wrote: »

Drinking on your own.
How sad.

You could be in a pub with over 50 other people but still be "drinking on your own"

Stojkovic · 17-02-2014 10:44PM

Banjo String wrote: »

You could be in a pub with over 50 other people but still be "drinking on your own"

Not if you go where everybody knows your name.

Banjo String · 17-02-2014 10:48PM

Stojkovic wrote: »

Not if you go where everybody knows your name.

Bollocks.

I could go into my local any night of the week where everyone knows my name. That doesn't mean I couldn't choose to head into the snug, all by myself and drink my self into oblivion (on my own).

Must troll harder.

Stojkovic · 17-02-2014 10:54PM

Just because someone disagrees with you it doesnt mean they're a troll.

PS Whats a troll ?

rustedtrumpet · 17-02-2014 11:00PM

Couldnt stand the cheap skates that use to come into the busy pub where I worked, and moaned. Like moaning at a young bartender is going to do anything, complaining for the sake of it. Give him the aul "jaysus that much for a pint is it? ****in rip off, ****in robbery so it is, should be ashamed of yourself". "Sure I could pick up a bottle of tonic in the offo for a euro." As if the off-licsence and pub's prices are going to be the same. Go speak to a manager or not enter the pub at all, you know its going to be pricey no point in giving the bar tender abuse over 50cent for the sake of it because you're an 'aul fella' and you've 'years of drinkin' behind you.

Satriale · 18-02-2014 02:43AM

rustedtrumpet wrote: »

Couldnt stand the cheap skates that use to come into the busy pub where I worked, and moaned. Like moaning at a young bartender is going to do anything, complaining for the sake of it. Give him the aul "jaysus that much for a pint is it? ****in rip off, ****in robbery so it is, should be ashamed of yourself". "Sure I could pick up a bottle of tonic in the offo for a euro." As if the off-licsence and pub's prices are going to be the same. Go speak to a manager or not enter the pub at all, you know its going to be pricey no point in giving the bar tender abuse over 50cent for the sake of it because you're an 'aul fella' and you've 'years of drinkin' behind you.

The ironing is delicious.....

18-02-2014 03:04AM

Banjo String wrote: »

Supply and demand. Too many pubs competing for too little consumers (too little that are prepared to pay the prices being asked)

Very few publicans are adapting their business strategies to match the decline in people's disposable income.

Restaurants Offer various deals, 3 courses for €10, 4 for €12 etc.

Very few pubs I've been in have started to address the need to offer sweetners for example. How much does those little glass bottles of mineral cost? Why not offer them free with a spirit? Charging 3 and 4 euro for them isn't acceptable anymore.

Why not offer deals on pints? If a pint of paulaner (example) is five euro, why not offer 6 for twenty euro?

No, publicans think the good times are still here, with there €6 for large cokes, and 4 or 5 euro for a mixer.

Then whinge to the Govt when things aren't going their way.

I've seen places doing buckets of bottles, 6 for 20 quid. Works out at €3.33 a bottle or about €1 per 100ml or €5.70 a pint. People still seem the go for it.

O'Reilly's next to Tara St. can sell pints for under €3.50 each, 10 minutes walk from places in Temple Bar where some places charge the same. Where I like a few pubs have started €3.50 pints of whatever they can get cheap and it's gotten me and my friends in their door while 2/3 years ago the same places were empty all week and had plenty of sitting space. Adapt and survive, it's pretty much that simple.

Luap · 18-02-2014 03:05AM

Couching Dragon, hidden naggin.

fonecrusher1 · 18-02-2014 03:15AM

Drink at home till late then into the pub for a few so I don't end up spending a small fortune. Amost 5 euro for a pint of lager or 7/8 euro for vodka & mixer is just fcuking disgusting whatever way you cut it.

I don't give a toss about overheads, rent, staff wages. Not my problem. Recognize the times we're in & be reasonable with your prices or close because you still think its 2006.

spiralism · 18-02-2014 04:21AM

Pubs can complain all they want but the money isn't there for a lot of young lads to be able to afford to go out and put 50 euro behind the bar any given night.

Now for example, take students, a crowd either working part time or not at all and generally operating on a budget. You cant expect a lad surviving on 70 euro a week and getting him in the door of a pub if its going to cost him at least half of that on his night out?

Students/people in their early twenties aren't generally making a lot, be it due to college or generally working entry level jobs if at all. Yet they're one of the most likely groups to head out for obvious reasons, when you're young you tend to head out naturally. But they can't afford those prices when invariably living on a budget, it's not that they dont want to. Minimum pricing comes in and what you'll have is young people having no choice but to head out less and then the publicans will still complain that people aren't heading out while nightclubs/late bars lose out on admission as well! It clearly doesnt solve the problem!

SparkySpitfire · 18-02-2014 04:40AM

O'Reilly's at Tara St. do €3.60 pints and have been for a while. On the weekend they have 1 euro shots and 2 euro bottles of Kopparberg, can't beat it! Every single time I go there there's not a seat to be had, but you wait for one anyway because staying there means saving 3 quid on every drink you buy!

spiralism · 18-02-2014 04:41AM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

O'Reilly's at Tara St. do €3.60 pints and have been for a while. On the weekend they have 1 euro shots and 2 euro bottles of Kopparberg, can't beat it! Every single time I go there there's not a seat to be had, but you wait for one anyway because staying there means saving 3 quid on every drink you buy!

That's a bit more like it and it's clearly paying off for them, fair play to them.

MadsL · 18-02-2014 04:53AM

charlietheminxx wrote: »

I paid nearly 15 feckin euro for a double Malibu last week.

Did you get the ride?

18-02-2014 05:47AM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

O'Reilly's at Tara St. do €3.60 pints and have been for a while. On the weekend they have 1 euro shots and 2 euro bottles of Kopparberg, can't beat it! Every single time I go there there's not a seat to be had, but you wait for one anyway because staying there means saving 3 quid on every drink you buy!

I was in a few weeks ago when I had time to kill of an afternoon and saw they had an after-party for a gig. €5 entry including a pint of Heineken I think it was. Ridiculous.

SparkySpitfire · 18-02-2014 03:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was in a few weeks ago when I had time to kill of an afternoon and saw they had an after-party for a gig. €5 entry including a pint of Heineken I think it was. Ridiculous.

What's bad about that?

18-02-2014 04:02PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

What's bad about that?

Nothing, it was a compliment compared to the other ****ers in Dublin.

Price of drink in the pubs, no wonder we're drinking at home more.

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