Nonsense woo-doo?

MadsL · 17-02-2014 06:19PM

Why homeopathy isn't harmless...

The family of a Calgary woman facing criminal charges in connection with the death of her seven-year-old son say they’re in shock over the allegations of neglect.

The boy, Ryan Alexander Lovett, died last March after suffering from a strep infection which kept him bedridden for 10 days.

Police allege his mother, Tamara Lovett, 44, chose to treat the bacterial infection with homeopathic herbal remedies instead of taking him to a doctor.

That decision likely killed the child, police say.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calgary/Woman+faces+negligence+charges+connection+with+death/9201019/story.html

Oryx · 17-02-2014 06:28PM

Wearing a hologram on your wrist will make you fitter.

The Diabolical Monocle · 17-02-2014 06:44PM

MadsL wrote: »

I do have a habit of making a bit of a scene when I find homeopathic 'remedies' displayed next to the till.

I pick one up and go and excruciatingly ask the pharmacist the full details of what it is in, and how it works...then ask why it is on sale? 99% agree with me but say 'head office'.

Disgrace, Joe.

Just an idea now, but, did you ever think to just buy your sht and leave, like 99.9% of customers.

MadsL · 17-02-2014 07:16PM

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Just an idea now, but, did you ever think to just buy your sht and leave, like 99.9% of customers.

If you saw a child running into the road would you try and stop it?

Nonsense woo like homeopath kills kids, as shown above - pharmacists selling this crap just make people believe it is legitimate medicine.

Pharmacists should be questioned on why they sell it, if we all called it out for what it is maybe they would stop. Or at least publically admit they are selling snake oil.

clairefontaine · 17-02-2014 07:19PM

MadsL wrote: »

If you saw a child running into the road would you try and stop it?

Nonsense woo like homeopath kills kids, as shown above - pharmacists selling this crap just make people believe it is legitimate medicine.

Pharmacists should be questioned on why they sell it, if we all called it out for what it is maybe they would stop. Or at least publically admit they are selling snake oil.

No, you can't do that. It makes no business sense to prohibit ineffective sugar pills from being sold. Bad precedent.

What you can do is a class action lawsuit with fraud charges on manufacturers.

17-02-2014 07:20PM

MadsL wrote: »

Pharmacists should be questioned on why they sell it, if we all called it out for what it is maybe they would stop. Or at least publically admit they are selling snake oil.

It's not down to the pharmacists, unless they also own the pharmacy. It's like blaming the check-in staff for a flight delay.

Write to the head office if it's a chain, or whoever's responsible for deciding what to stock, leave the staff do the job they're paid to do without holding them responsible for what's outside their control.

catallus · 17-02-2014 07:20PM

MadsL wrote: »

If you saw a child running into the road would you try and stop it?

And what if the child died and passersby said you chased the child onto the road! Don't be so naive!

Jake Rugby Walrus666 · 17-02-2014 07:24PM

MadsL wrote: »

If you saw a child running into the road would you try and stop it?

Nonsense woo like homeopath kills kids, as shown above - pharmacists selling this crap just make people believe it is legitimate medicine.

Pharmacists should be questioned on why they sell it, if we all called it out for what it is maybe they would stop. Or at least publically admit they are selling snake oil.

Maybe you wouldn't lose the rag with the poor pharmacist if you maybe brought with you some healing crystals to enhance your peace centres.

The Diabolical Monocle · 17-02-2014 07:31PM

MadsL wrote: »

If you saw a child running into the road would you try and stop it?

Nonsense woo like homeopath kills kids, as shown above - pharmacists selling this crap just make people believe it is legitimate medicine.

Pharmacists should be questioned on why they sell it, if we all called it out for what it is maybe they would stop. Or at least publically admit they are selling snake oil.

Pharmacists should be questioned.....by govt bodies and the medical community. Not busy-bodies and the pain in the hole community.

Cashiers should not be questioned by that .1% of customers.

The one's whos mere existence brought about the 'cries of retail' thread.

Muise... · 17-02-2014 07:38PM

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Pharmacists should be questioned.....by govt bodies and the medical community. Not busy-bodies and the pain in the hole community.

Cashiers should not be questioned by that .1% of customers.

The one's whos mere existence brought about the 'cries of retail' thread.

Jeeeeesus, don't be calling the pains in the hole a community or they'll band together and demand rights and all that carry on. As .1% they only have microscopic - homeopathic, even - levels of impact on the poor collective retail hole.

catallus · 17-02-2014 07:42PM

Would Climate Change count?

H2UMrsRobinson · 17-02-2014 07:43PM

Bottled water

Einhard · 17-02-2014 08:12PM

catallus wrote: »

Would Climate Change count?

No.

MadsL · 17-02-2014 08:18PM

Jake Rugby Walrus666 wrote: »

Maybe you wouldn't lose the rag with the poor pharmacist if you maybe brought with you some healing crystals to enhance your peace centres.

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Pharmacists should be questioned.....by govt bodies and the medical community. Not busy-bodies and the pain in the hole community.

Cashiers should not be questioned by that .1% of customers.

The one's whos mere existence brought about the 'cries of retail' thread.

Who said anything about losing the rag?

So let's examine this. Are you saying that customers should not question pharmacists as to the effectiveness, ingredients, and dosage of the 'medicines' they sell? Particularly Pharmacists, who undertake years of training in medicines and their use, who often catch mistakes Doctors make in prescribing, should not be asked why a "6c homeopathic potency of gentle Chamomilla" is appropriate for a teething child and since "Chamomilla is often described by homeopaths as the first-choice remedy for teething, with remarkable results." where one can read trials information about this remarkable drug. After all "Homeopathy is a system of medicine which stimulates the body's own natural healing processes and has been used for decades. Homeopathic medicines are suitable for all the family."

Really. From
http://www.mccabespharmacy.com/nelsons-teetha-teething-granules-24.html

McCabes "Advice you can trust".

I'd see nothing wrong in asking a pharmacist more closely about such claims. After all, are they not supposed to understand the medical effects of products they sell. Perhaps if we all did, such nonsense would be taken off the shelves.

Jimoslimos · 17-02-2014 08:20PM

MadsL wrote: »

What's worse is the IMB legitimising homeopathy by 'licensing' it.

Or where I am the NHS funding homeopathetic [sic] treatments and clinics. :mad:

My university even has a complementary medicine clinic on campus

MadsL · 17-02-2014 08:20PM

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Cashiers should not be questioned by that .1% of customers.

The one's whos mere existence brought about the 'cries of retail' thread.

Where did I advocate questioning Cashiers??

MadsL · 17-02-2014 08:21PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

My university even has a complementary medicine clinic on campus

That's nice, we have to pay for it here

The King of Moo · 17-02-2014 08:26PM

"He'll have no luck for it."

catallus wrote: »

Would Climate Change count?

Have you not looked out the window in the last two months?

Jimoslimos · 17-02-2014 08:26PM

MadsL wrote: »

That's nice, we have to pay for it here

Ba-dum-tssssh!

catallus · 17-02-2014 08:36PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Have you not looked out the window in the last two months?

Yep! Tis awful altogether. Why you ask?

The King of Moo · 17-02-2014 08:37PM

catallus wrote: »

Yep! Tis awful altogether. Why you ask?

It shows that the climate has changed.

catallus · 17-02-2014 08:38PM

Ah. I see. Good, good.

catallus · 17-02-2014 08:38PM

So it does count?

The King of Moo · 17-02-2014 08:39PM

catallus wrote: »

So it does count?

No.

Senna · 17-02-2014 08:40PM

WTF is Woo-doo, Voodoo maybe?

catallus · 17-02-2014 08:45PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

No.

I'm not following; no it is woo-doo or no it isn't?

MadsL · 17-02-2014 09:02PM

Senna wrote: »

WTF is Woo-doo, Voodoo maybe?

Nah. Voodoo is real.

dxhound2005 · 17-02-2014 09:10PM

MadsL wrote: »

Nah. Voodoo is real.

I didn't want to bother starting a new thread and seeing you were writing about snake oil earlier I thought I would post this. Sort of connected. Some mad people over there.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/local/2014/02/16/pastor-dies-after-snake-he-was-handling-bit-him/5529907/

MadsL · 17-02-2014 09:16PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I didn't want to bother starting a new thread and seeing you were writing about snake oil earlier I thought I would post this. Sort of connected. Some mad people over there.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/local/2014/02/16/pastor-dies-after-snake-he-was-handling-bit-him/5529907/

Darwin 1, God-botherer 0

Capt'n Midnight · 17-02-2014 09:16PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Karma.

I love karma.

It means I can do bad things to people who believe in it and assume they deserve it.

Nonsense woo-doo?

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