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Blowing the Whistle on a drink driver?

  • 16-02-2014 10:12PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭


    Right i work in a pub. I've worked in pubs for a long time. I understand discretion. I understand and have in the past turned the blind eye to whatever. We all know people sometimes behave out of character when they have a few drinks on board. Maybe there's something on their mind and they're having a particularly bad day. Most people are alright.

    In saying this, i cant stand drink driving. And working in pubs you always know the few who would chance their arm. And the other few who have a skinful and think nothing of driving home.

    I've never reported anybody, in a working capacity for drink driving.

    However, every day this same oul codger comes in has 3 or 4 pints of Guinness and a few Jamesons with water. Gets in his car and drives about 4km home.
    He can barely see even sober so i personally don't think he should be driving at all, let alone with drink on board.

    Some Facts:
    • He has been arrested before for drink driving but was not charged due to a technicality.
    • He drives past a school on the way home and usually around lunch hour when the kids are coming out.
    • He's the most obnoxious ****er you'll ever meet.

    So what do ya do?

    Do i turn a blind eye, even though its going on every day?
    Do i report him even though its not my responsibility.

    What would you do?

    Would you report a persistent drink driver? 251 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    92% 231 votes
    Keep your bleedin nose out!
    7% 20 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    My local lets the regulars know when a Garda checkpoint is in the locality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    I wouldn't think twice about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    You say Hey! Ya know you yeah ? He'll say yeah. Ya know you're drunk yeah ? He'll say yeah. Well if you get in that car I'm calling the Guards and you'll never set foot in this bar again, yeah ? He'll say fcuk yourself and mind your own business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    I can see only one practical solution - Move the school to a safer location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    Appleguy wrote: »
    Right i work in a pub. I've worked in pubs for a long time. I understand discretion. I understand and have in the past turned the blind eye to whatever. We all know people sometimes behave out of character when they have a few drinks on board. Maybe there's something on their mind and they're having a particularly bad day. Most people are alright.

    In saying this, i cant stand drink driving. And working in pubs you always know the few who would chance their arm. And the other few who have a skinful and think nothing of driving home.

    I've never reported anybody, in a working capacity for drink driving.

    However, every day this same oul codger comes in has 3 or 4 pints of Guinness and a few Jamesons with water. Gets in his car and drives about 4km home.
    He can barely see even sober so i personally don't think he should be driving at all, let alone with drink on board.

    Some Facts:
    • He has been arrested before for drink driving but was not charged due to a technicality.
    • He drives past a school on the way home.
    • He's the most obnoxious ****er you'll ever meet.

    So what do ya do?

    Do i turn a blind eye, even though its going on every day?
    Do i report him even though its not my responsibility.

    What would you do?

    Could you maybe not serve him?:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Appleguy wrote: »
    Do i report him even though its not my responsibility.

    It is your responsibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Do the decent thing and drive him home yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Appleguy


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    It is your responsibility.

    No its not, were not in Australia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Why is he being served?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Nah let them have their fun.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Appleguy wrote: »

    So what do ya do?

    Do i turn a blind eye, even though its going on every day?
    Do i report him even though its not my responsibility.

    What would you do?

    I don't know what I'd do, but I know a pub landlord who has taken the car keys off people and arranged a lift home for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Appleguy wrote: »
    No its not, were not in Australia

    Come on, you're not only aware of a guy regularly driving pissed on the roads and past a school but you're the guy filling him with drink. You're responsible on several different levels here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Dicky Pride


    Report him. If he killed one of those kids, how would you feel? It really is that easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'm just gonna go ahead and call bull**** on the whole thing

    And why does the question about reporting habitual drunk drivers even need to be asked?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭sawdoubters


    in some countries you could be charged for serving alcohol

    when your put on the witness stand you will not work in a bar again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Dicky Pride


    I'm just gonna go ahead and call bull**** on the whole thing

    And why does the question about reporting habitual drunk drivers even need to be asked?

    Nothing bull about it. Every bar man in the country has seen this. Sometimes it's the batman who watched the DJ drink all night, then have a couple after work and then get in his car. One of a thousand examples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Appleguy


    Come on, you're not only aware of a guy regularly driving pissed on the roads and past a school but you're the guy filling him with drink. You're responsible on several different levels here.

    Hey i'm not driving


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    There was a civil case many years ago where a drunk driver was driving home from the pub completely plastered,crashed the car,ended up in a wheelchair,succesfully sued the pub for serving him and then allowing him to drive home,AFAIK it was back in the 90's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Appleguy


    in some countries you could be charged for serving alcohol

    when your put on the witness stand you will not work in a bar again

    Ye Ireland isn't one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Let the garda know and they can nab him outside



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    He drinks all that booze before lunchtime?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭BNMC


    Nothing bull about it. Every bar man in the country has seen this. Sometimes it's the batman who watched the DJ drink all night, then have a couple after work and then get in his car. One of a thousand examples.
    Jeez, Batman has really let himself go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Appleguy


    jane82 wrote: »
    He drinks all that booze before lunchtime?

    He does


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭tightropetom


    It is an offence under the 2003 Act to supply alcohol to a drunken person and to admit a drunken person to a bar. (A 'drunken person' is someone intoxicated to such a degree that they may endanger themselves or other people). Any licence holder that allows this to occur on their premises is liable on summary conviction to a class B fine for a first offence and a class A fine for any subsequent offence.

    So if you provide drink to someone and they crash, surely that would make you also liable, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Appleguy wrote: »
    Right i work in a pub. I've worked in pubs for a long time. I understand discretion. I understand and have in the past turned the blind eye to whatever. We all know people sometimes behave out of character when they have a few drinks on board. Maybe there's something on their mind and they're having a particularly bad day. Most people are alright.

    In saying this, i cant stand drink driving. And working in pubs you always know the few who would chance their arm. And the other few who have a skinful and think nothing of driving home.

    I've never reported anybody, in a working capacity for drink driving.

    However, every day this same oul codger comes in has 3 or 4 pints of Guinness and a few Jamesons with water. Gets in his car and drives about 4km home.
    He can barely see even sober so i personally don't think he should be driving at all, let alone with drink on board.

    Some Facts:
    • He has been arrested before for drink driving but was not charged due to a technicality.
    • He drives past a school on the way home and usually around lunch hour when the kids are coming out.
    • He's the most obnoxious ****er you'll ever meet.

    So what do ya do?

    Do i turn a blind eye, even though its going on every day?
    Do i report him even though its not my responsibility.

    What would you do?

    Can you be certain the locals members of An Garda Síochána don't already know?

    When I was able to cycle (fracture in lower spine at the mo) I would be out cycling at all hours, in all weather conditions. What I saw would shock some people. Yes their would be people leaving pubs, looking obvious that drive had been taken, and proceeding to drive home. I saw this continuously. Their would still be noise coming from inside, so not like they would be the last to leave either so others obviously inside aware.
    Now, if I was able to see this over & over it makes no sense why the local members of An Garda Síochána were not already aware of this and yet it continued! Since they continuously believe they are doing their job & since they believe they are doing all they can, I don't know what to say man. If you know & others know, how come this is continuing? If that man caused an accident - would the local members of An Garda Síochána plead innocent in saying they didn't know? Would you feel better in having them say that? You could report it; put it in writing and should something happen, well they were informed???!

    I could never turn a blind eye, but maybe if this is happening "every day" and continues to happen "every day" and the local members of An Garda Síochána are okay with that, then maybe a complaint to the powers-that-be could be in order.


    Thanks,
    kerry4sam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    If the man is blind drunk and barely able to walk I'd call the cops.

    If I was 1 or 2 pints I probably wouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭CaSCaDe711


    Of course you should report him :rolleyes: How would you feel if he hit and seriously injured, or even killed someone. Get on the phone and do it, the less drink drivers on our roads the better :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    Appleguy wrote: »
    He does

    So your killing this hopeless alcoholic with the drink your serving him and all your wprried about is secretly reporting him for drink driving. I take it when he is walking to the pub you will happily keep helping him drink his life away and telling him its terrible they took his licence and taking his money.

    Id be starting a thread saying how do I help a hopeless blind alco.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭mathepac


    Appleguy wrote: »
    ... Do i report him even though its not my responsibility. ...
    What mental mind-games have you played to weasel your way out of your responsibilities as a citizen.

    With children's safety at risk I'm astounded you have to ask the question ...
    Appleguy wrote: »
    ... What would you do?
    Put the responsibility back where it belongs - on your shoulders / conscience


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Ring the anonymous garda line if you feel strongly about it, at least you'll have told them and let them do the rest


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