Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

bluefinger · 13-02-2014 02:57PM

The best thing about the past few weeks, is that we seem to have more than one plan. Counterattacking against Everton, pressing and scaring the crap out of Arsenal and possession type stuff against Fulham.

Nuri Sahin · 13-02-2014 02:58PM

Statz - Liverpool have now scored 43 first-half goals this season, 2 more than Man Utd have in total.

seanwhite20 · 13-02-2014 03:03PM

IK09 · 13-02-2014 03:06PM

citytillidie wrote: »

Top 7 remaining fixtures minus the Man City and Evertons games that were called off last night

Saturday 22nd February 2014
Chelsea v Everton
Arsenal v Sunderland
Man City v Stoke
Crystal Palace v Man Utd
Liverpool v Swansea
Norwich v Tottenham

Saturday 1st March 2014
Everton v West Ham
Fulham v Chelsea
Stoke v Arsenal
Southampton v Liverpool

Sunday 2nd March 2014
Tottenham v Cardiff

Saturday 8th March 2014
West Brom v Man Utd
Arsenal v Swansea
Man City v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Tottenham

Sunday 9th March 2014
Newcastle v Everton

Monday 10th March 2014
Liverpool v Sunderland

Saturday 15th March 2014
Hull v Man City
Everton v Cardiff
Aston Villa v Chelsea

Sunday 16th March 2014
Man Utd v Liverpool
Tottenham v Arsenal

Saturday 22nd March 2014
Chelsea v Arsenal
Cardiff v Liverpool
Everton v Swansea
Man City v Fulham
West Ham v Man Utd

Sunday 23rd March 2014
Tottenham v Southampton

Tuesday 25th March 2014
Man Utd v Man City

Saturday 29th March 2014
Man Utd v Aston Villa
Crystal Palace v Chelsea
Arsenal v Man City

Sunday 30th March 2014
Fulham v Everton
Liverpool v Tottenham

Saturday 5th April 2014
Chelsea v Stoke
Everton v Arsenal
Man City v Southampton
Newcastle v Man Utd
Tottenham v Sunderland
West Ham v Liverpool

Saturday 12th April 2014
Arsenal v West Ham
Liverpool v Man City
Man Utd v Hull
Sunderland v Everton
Swansea v Chelsea
West Brom v Tottenham

Saturday 19th April 2014
Chelsea v Sunderland
Everton v Man Utd
Hull v Arsenal
Man City v West Brom
Norwich v Liverpool
Tottenham v Fulham

Saturday 26th April 2014
Arsenal v Newcastle
Crystal Palace v Man City
Liverpool v Chelsea
Man Utd v Norwich
Southampton v Everton
Stoke v Tottenham

Saturday 3rd May 2014
Arsenal v West Brom
Chelsea v Norwich
Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Everton v Man City
Man Utd v Sunderland
West Ham v Tottenham

Sunday 11th May 2014
Cardiff v Chelsea
Hull v Everton
Liverpool v Newcastle
Man City v West Ham
Norwich v Arsenal
Southampton v Man Utd
Tottenham v Aston Villa

I am going to be a lout on Sunday 16th March, a drunk and a scoundrel

Boom_Bap · 13-02-2014 03:08PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Well they are picking up wins but they haven't really looked all that impressive for most of those games. Bar last night but Newcastle have practically chucked it in for the season since Cabaye left.

Would like to see them drop a few points though. They do have Chelsea, Arsenal and Southampton before they play us at Anfield at the end of March. That run will tell a lot about them.

Sherwood has done a great job there so far. He's gotten them to a more settled formation where each player knows their role. And has not been afraid to play the players he wants, rather than try to fit in this seasons signings.

He has stabilised things there and not been afraid to do what he wants.

I am pie · 13-02-2014 03:12PM

IK09 wrote: »

I am going to be a lought on Sunday 16th March, a drunk and a scoundrel

A lout even! ...but yes, i think its acceptable on that day.

Francie Barrett · 13-02-2014 03:14PM

BoardsMember wrote: »

If AVB was still at Tottenham I'd be more concerned about their proximity, but I think Sheringham will see to it that they lose more points than us in the run in.

What a load of tripe.

Spurs are where they are now because of Tim Sherwood, not because of AVB (who was running Spurs into the ground). If AVB was in charge, Adebayor (8 goals and 3 assists in 11 games) would still be training with the kids and Spurs would still be playing mindless hoofball.

Francie Barrett · 13-02-2014 03:21PM

BoardsMember wrote: »

Sherwood is fairly naive when it comes to tactics. AVB was a moron not picking Adebayor, but tactically is more aware than playing some of the formations Sherwood has come up with. Time will tell.

Tactically naive? AVB was one of the worst tacticians to have ever managed in the Premier League. He was playing the exact same awful tactics that got him the sack from Chelsea - the high line with dog sh!t slow defenders and a heavy dose of hoof ball. It was clear at the end of AVB's reign that the entire team was utterly demoralized and AVB's "system" was an utter failure.

brevity · 13-02-2014 03:24PM

"Move Phil! Getout tha way!"

https://vine.co/v/M7K0TphVYd3

Boom_Bap · 13-02-2014 03:26PM

brevity wrote: »

"Move Phil! Getout tha way!"

https://vine.co/v/M7K0TphVYd3

I had missed that during the game, and was wondering why the ref had a mucky back.

Augmerson · 13-02-2014 03:28PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Bit of potential transfer news. Turkish media linking us with 25 year old left back Caner Erkin from Fenerbache on a free transfer, he has the highest number of assists in the Super League (11) this season and also has two goals to his name. While having seen Fener once or twice this season, can't recall him

Spurs or Chelski will be on to that.

gimli2112 · 13-02-2014 03:30PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Spurs or Chelski will be on to that.

Chelsea'll probably wait until he does the Spurs medical and then sign him.

Morzadec · 13-02-2014 03:30PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

sherwoods done a terrific job with spurs so far

in the league
pl:10 w:7 d:2 l:1 Pts:23

under avb spurs lost at home to newcastle..

Jesus that's frightening form - 2.3ppg

I know we're feeling great about ourselves today, and it's great that we're arguably in a title race, but I was really hoping that Spurs would have fallen away a bit by now.

Last night was a big convincing win for them, probably their first of the season, and even if Newcastle have declined that is a massive away win.

3 points is very little so we are most certainly still in a battle for 4th first and foremost.

We have the advantage of having them at home, so a win there would be huge. Looking at the fixtures before that, we perhaps have an edge, so it would be nice if we could be in a position to put their challenge to bed at Anfield.

But if Spurs keep up 2.3ppg (and that's a massive IF as they have some tough fixtures ahead and the EL to kick off again) they would almost certainly qualify for the CL (they would have 77/78 points).

So I would be wary of them.

There's an awful long way to go in the battle for 4th, before we start talking about the title.

kingshankly · 13-02-2014 03:30PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Spurs or Chelski will be on to that.

As league champions there will be a cue at the shankly gates as far as Goodson next year full of world class players wanting to join Rodgers revolution

Royal Legend · 13-02-2014 03:31PM

citytillidie wrote: »

Top 7 remaining fixtures minus the Man City and Evertons games that were called off last night

Saturday 22nd February 2014
Chelsea v Everton
Arsenal v Sunderland
Man City v Stoke
Crystal Palace v Man Utd
Liverpool v Swansea
Norwich v Tottenham

Saturday 1st March 2014
Everton v West Ham
Fulham v Chelsea
Stoke v Arsenal
Southampton v Liverpool

Sunday 2nd March 2014
Tottenham v Cardiff

Saturday 8th March 2014
West Brom v Man Utd
Arsenal v Swansea
Man City v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Tottenham

Sunday 9th March 2014
Newcastle v Everton

Monday 10th March 2014
Liverpool v Sunderland

Saturday 15th March 2014
Hull v Man City
Everton v Cardiff
Aston Villa v Chelsea

Sunday 16th March 2014
Man Utd v Liverpool
Tottenham v Arsenal

Saturday 22nd March 2014
Chelsea v Arsenal
Cardiff v Liverpool
Everton v Swansea
Man City v Fulham
West Ham v Man Utd

Sunday 23rd March 2014
Tottenham v Southampton

Tuesday 25th March 2014
Man Utd v Man City

Saturday 29th March 2014
Man Utd v Aston Villa
Crystal Palace v Chelsea
Arsenal v Man City

Sunday 30th March 2014
Fulham v Everton
Liverpool v Tottenham

Saturday 5th April 2014
Chelsea v Stoke
Everton v Arsenal
Man City v Southampton
Newcastle v Man Utd
Tottenham v Sunderland
West Ham v Liverpool

Saturday 12th April 2014
Arsenal v West Ham
Liverpool v Man City
Man Utd v Hull
Sunderland v Everton
Swansea v Chelsea
West Brom v Tottenham

Saturday 19th April 2014
Chelsea v Sunderland
Everton v Man Utd
Hull v Arsenal
Man City v West Brom
Norwich v Liverpool
Tottenham v Fulham

Saturday 26th April 2014
Arsenal v Newcastle
Crystal Palace v Man City
Liverpool v Chelsea
Man Utd v Norwich
Southampton v Everton
Stoke v Tottenham

Saturday 3rd May 2014
Arsenal v West Brom
Chelsea v Norwich
Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Everton v Man City
Man Utd v Sunderland
West Ham v Tottenham

Sunday 11th May 2014
Cardiff v Chelsea
Hull v Everton
Liverpool v Newcastle
Man City v West Ham
Norwich v Arsenal
Southampton v Man Utd
Tottenham v Aston Villa

Apart from when they are playing any of the top 5, why o why are you including man utd's fixtures in the above. They are done

Francie Barrett · 13-02-2014 03:35PM

kingshankly wrote: »

And under Sherwood spurs are now a different proposition

It's sad really, not one person is willing to give Sherwood an iota of credit.

Sherwood's decision to bring Adebayor back into the fold wasn't his only astute decision. Look at Bentaleb, he didn't even get near the subs bench under AVB, yet Sherwood has brought him into the team and he has been a revelation at times. Look at Eriksen, he looked awful under AVB, but now that he has been given the freedom to express himself, he has quietly been putting in some excellent performance and racking up goals/assists. Look at Chadli, under AVB, I thought he might have been one of the worst transfers of the season, under Sherwood though, he has showed a bit of handy improvement. The players as a whole look a lot happier on the field, no whinging to the media like they did under AVB. Even when they got tonked by City, they were actually competitive until the sending off.

smileyj1987 · 13-02-2014 03:36PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

Apart from when they are playing any of the top 5, why o why are you including man utd's fixtures in the above. They are done

Well I would include them because as much as I have enjoyed laughing at them history has thought me don't go over board on it .
I really really dislike that club and everything about them but I will have my laugh when they can't mathematically can't catch LFC .

Gbear · 13-02-2014 03:36PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

What a load of tripe.

Spurs are where they are now because of Tim Sherwood, not because of AVB (who was running Spurs into the ground). If AVB was in charge, Adebayor (8 goals and 3 assists in 11 games) would still be training with the kids and Spurs would still be playing mindless hoofball.

I think Spurs are where they are because they have one of the best squads in the league.
I think they are where they are despite both AVB and Sherwood, neither of which I believe have much of a notion how to manage a football team.

Sherwood deserves a little bit of credit for getting Spurs slightly below par for how good their squad is. But only a little bit, and I don't think he's doing a huge amount better than AVB was either.
In both cases they're still getting demolished when a team can match them for quality but also has a better manager - us and city being the two most obvious examples.

citytillidie · 13-02-2014 03:36PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

Apart from when they are playing any of the top 5, why o why are you including man utd's fixtures in the above. They are done

See post #120 :P

percy007 · 13-02-2014 03:38PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It's sad really, not one person is willing to give Sherwood an iota of credit.

Sherwood's decision to bring Adebayor back into the fold wasn't his only astute decision. Look at Bentaleb, he didn't even get near the subs bench under AVB, yet Sherwood has brought him into the team and he has been a revelation at times. Look at Eriksen, he looked awful under AVB, but now that he has been given the freedom to express himself, he has quietly been putting in some excellent performance and racking up goals/assists. Look at Chadli, under AVB, I thought he might have been one of the worst transfers of the season, under Sherwood though, he has showed a bit of handy improvement. The players as a whole look a lot happier on the field, no whinging to the media like they did under AVB. Even when they got tonked by City, they were actually competitive until the sending off.

Thats cos Sheringham done it all.

smileyj1987 · 13-02-2014 03:39PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It's sad really, not one person is willing to give Sherwood an iota of credit.

Sherwood's decision to bring Adebayor back into the fold wasn't his only astute decision. Look at Bentaleb, he didn't even get near the subs bench under AVB, yet Sherwood has brought him into the team and he has been a revelation at times. Look at Eriksen, he looked awful under AVB, but now that he has been given the freedom to express himself, he has quietly been putting in some excellent performance and racking up goals/assists. Look at Chadli, under AVB, I thought he might have been one of the worst transfers of the season, under Sherwood though, he has showed a bit of handy improvement. The players as a whole look a lot happier on the field, no whinging to the media like they did under AVB. Even when they got tonked by City, they were actually competitive until the sending off.

I agree with this post completely . I mean people even saw the pictures of Adebayor laughing at his own team after the LFC v Spurs game . The man has obviously come in and put a lot of spirit back into the squad . So I think he does deserve all the credit for them playing well and playing as a team .

Anyone · 13-02-2014 03:39PM

seanwhite20 wrote: »

Even though he has been injured, its positive to see that Enrique is having an influence on the team.

Gbear · 13-02-2014 03:43PM

Also,

Wooooo!

I think we could've handled a draw or even a loss yesterday - we still would've been firm favourites for 4th.

But a win opens up so many possibilities.

In order to win the title we'll need to beat all the rest of the teams in the top 7 and, I think, actually improve our results against all the rest of the league.

It's an incredibly tall order.

Getting fourth would be an utterly colossal job well done by the team.

Any higher than fourth should result in the team being showered in money and tits. Better than I even dreamed of at the start of the season.

Come what may this team has put in a huge shift this year so far. Job's far from done but we've been so good that I actually feel confident that the team won't **** this opportunity up.

Demosthenese · 13-02-2014 03:43PM

Spurs fixtures :
Norwich Away
Cardiff Home
Chelsea Away
Arsenal Home
Southampton Home
Liverpool Away

Chelsea/Arsenal/Us ... there are no easy fixtures there even though you'd expect them to beat Cardiff at home. That will separate the men from the boys ... that said with all the CL fixtures coming as well, i'd hope we can catch Arsenal who have these fixtures : Sunderland/Stoke/Swansea/Spurs/Chelsea ...

Fulham giving a good account of themselves just shows there will be NO easy games especially away from home. Lets not worry about anyone. Let them worry about us!

billy2012 · 13-02-2014 03:44PM

Whilst Kolo has made a couple of serious mistakes that have led to goals, he has generally played very well over the last few weeks.

I don't understand why so many people are writing off Spurs because of Sherwood? What do they really know about the guy?? From what I can see he is doing a pretty damn good job.

We have spent many hours debating the midfield in this thread over the last few months. Gerrard and Lucas. Some people claimed Lucas was the problem and some claimed it was all Gerrard's fault. Some people claimed there was no way Gerrard could play DM and by doing so we were saying good bye to CL?? Opinions now, have they changed at all?

Vanolder · 13-02-2014 03:46PM

Lots of pops at utd and lads posting in their thread... I'd hold off till seasons end personally and even then, let's not become them...

Morzadec · 13-02-2014 03:49PM

From last week:

1. Chelsea: +6
2. Arsenal: +4
3. City: +3
4. Liverpool: 0
5. Spurs: -3
6. Everton: -5
7. United -9.5

Updated:

1. Chelsea: +5
2. Arsenal: +3
3. City: +3
4. Liverpool: +1
5. Spurs: -2
6. Everton: -5
7. United -9.5

This table becomes useful when teams have played different amounts of games, because you can win and lose points here, so it's all the same really. City and Everton aren't really at a disadvantage here, there 1 game less is kind of factored in.

To be on +1 is great - I'm pretty sure this is the highest we've been since I started this table.

However, we've been close to this total before, so we shouldn't feel too optimistic. Spurs are right behind us on -2, suggesting we have no advantage on them in terms of fixture difficulty at the moment.

I was hoping that 73 points or so would be enough to take 4th and we had some room to slip a couple of points below this target.

But that was when I was still viewing United as the main competition.

Sherwood's Spurs has surprised me and I won't quite be joining in with the unbridled optimism and bravado on here until they drop away again. They've been poor for huge parts of the season and have managed to sneak wins, so I'm worried now that they seem to be playing well and scoring goals.

I usually am quite optimistic in my write-ups on these tables, but today I'm injecting a dose of realism/pessimism!

On the upside, just 2 points behind Arsenal here rather than 3 in the real table, so technically closer to 3rd than 5th if you put any credence into this table

billy2012 · 13-02-2014 03:49PM

Have I missed Morzadec's table??

I enjoyed txting some friends that are UTD fans laughing at the fact that they were -9, as you can imagine they had no idea what I was on about.

Nuri Sahin · 13-02-2014 03:49PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It's sad really, not one person is willing to give Sherwood an iota of credit.

Sherwood's decision to bring Adebayor back into the fold wasn't his only astute decision. Look at Bentaleb, he didn't even get near the subs bench under AVB, yet Sherwood has brought him into the team and he has been a revelation at times. Look at Eriksen, he looked awful under AVB, but now that he has been given the freedom to express himself, he has quietly been putting in some excellent performance and racking up goals/assists. Look at Chadli, under AVB, I thought he might have been one of the worst transfers of the season, under Sherwood though, he has showed a bit of handy improvement. The players as a whole look a lot happier on the field, no whinging to the media like they did under AVB. Even when they got tonked by City, they were actually competitive until the sending off.

That's not true, it's been established they're playing well and are a threat to us.

As I've said, many managers, good or bad have had honeymoon periods when taking over a job. He's only in the job a couple of months. Let's see where Sherwood's Spurs are in 8-12 months time. Will Adebayor sign a new contract, get his pay day and revert back to being a lazy enigma? Will Eriksen revert back to his disappearing act after half a few good games if even that which is he's reknowned for? Chadli? Meh. AVB's made mistakes, but it's far too early to lavish heaps of praise on cheeky chappy, media darling Sherwood.

Nuri Sahin · 13-02-2014 03:51PM

Moyes tactics are evolving. Be afraid, very afraid..

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