Tallaght hospital - story in today's indo

cletus van damme · 13-02-2014 02:42PM #1

story from todays's Indo

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-had-to-undergo-internal-exam-in-hospital-corridor-30006977.html

THIS Dublin mum was subjected to an internal examination in the corridor of Tallaght hospital with just a flimsy screens around her for privacy

Ciara O'Leary has spoken out about her treatment in the crowded A&E department.
Ciara (28) said that she waited for seven hours in the emergency ward before being fully examined by doctors.
She presented at the hospital suffering from severe abdominal pains and was suffering from suspected appendicitis.
Ciara waited on a trolley for doctors to examine her but was horrified when just two flimsy screens were put around her as a rectal exam took place.
“The doctor went off to get a female nurse, came back and proceeded to do the examination in the corridor,” Ciara said.
“It was only a minute and a half, but it's not the time it took, it's where it was done.
“If the screens are not fixed properly, you can see all you want basically.”
Ciara said that she only realised that it was possible to see after the intense exam. “I wasn't aware of this because my back was to them during the examination. I was in that much pain, I just wanted the pain to be gone,” she told the Irish Sun.
“It was not until afterwards that I stood up off the trolley to go to the loo and walked down past the cubicle.
“The examination is horrendous in itself, but to have it done in those circumstances...”

Concerns

The Tallaght mum-of-three was later released from the hospital on Sunday morning with a diagnosis of probable fluid in her pelvic area.
Tallaght Hospital said that they could not comment on individual cases, they always refer concerns to the Patient Advocacy Department.

Personally if I had "severe abdominal pains" I'd be happy to be examined in the nip on O'Connell bridge if it sorted the issue and I was seen to by a professional .

Granted our hospitals are not 5 star hotels but I think we get for the most part better services than other countries.
I'm not saying it wasn't uncomfortable but surely it wasn't newspaper worthy.

Do people expect too much and fail to recognise that everything in life isn't nice.
Do you think she is complaining too much ?

I do.

SEPT 23 1989 · 13-02-2014 02:47PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I'd say my cat pays more tax than her and her extended family. Looks like she got lost on the way to the Jeremy Kyle show.

ah now here,you cant say that about someone

Plazaman · 13-02-2014 02:48PM

Ah now getting a couple of fingers up the jacksy in a public hallway with men, women and children walking by and only a Michael Mouse screen to block the whole world seeing your bits and pieces is quite embarrassing no matter how bad you feel.

Don't expect a 5 star hotel but even an examination in the broom closet would have been better than getting your hole out in a hallway.

EyeSight · 13-02-2014 02:49PM

There's a difference between a 5 star hotel and a hospital. You should expect at least a tiny private room for a rectal exam, if only for the 2 minutes. It shouldn't matter how much taxes she pays

JustAddWater · 13-02-2014 02:50PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

ah now here,you cant say that about someone:D

especially when your basing it on ?????

cletus van damme · 13-02-2014 02:53PM

Plazaman wrote: »

Ah now getting a couple of fingers up the jacksy in a public hallway with men, women and children walking by and only a Michael Mouse screen to block the whole world seeing your bits and pieces is quite embarrassing no matter how bad you feel.

Don't expect a 5 star hotel but even an examination in the broom closet would have been better than getting your hole out in a hallway.

maybe not but it boils down to "do you want to be fixed?"

I'm not saying it was a laugh but ffs "man up" - I know she is a women but i don't know the female equivalent...

when I was in "severe abdominal pain" with a "suspected appendicitis" - which I was once upon a time in the dark days of 1997 -
I would have said whatever. not liked it but recognised the greater goal of fixing me.
BTW now I remember I did get that treatment on front of a crowd of junior doctors including a few hotties. consultant/ky jelly/glove etc..... the memories...

Wossack · 13-02-2014 02:54PM

examined in the corridor like that? bit of a bummer alright

MoonDancer · 13-02-2014 02:55PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I'd say my cat pays more tax than her and her extended family. Looks like she got lost on the way to the Jeremy Kyle show.

Disgusting comment, hope you don't have to endure treatment like that when you're vunerable.

sillysmiles · 13-02-2014 03:08PM

cletus van damme wrote: »

story from todays's Indo

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-had-to-undergo-internal-exam-in-hospital-corridor-30006977.html

Personally if I had "severe abdominal pains" I'd be happy to be examined in the nip on O'Connell bridge if it sorted the issue and I was seen to by a professional .

Regardless of your person preferences, people are entitled to be treated with dignity with in hospital.

Granted our hospitals are not 5 star hotels but I think we get for the most part better services than other countries.
I'm not saying it wasn't uncomfortable but surely it wasn't newspaper worthy.

Really? What makes you think we get better standards that other countries? Is it the waiting lists? The people in corridors? The misdiagnosis cases?

Do people expect too much and fail to recognise that everything in life isn't nice.
Do you think she is complaining too much ?

I do.

I don't. We are not a third world country (apparently) and these are not acceptable standard of healthcare.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 13-02-2014 03:08PM

Well if you don't go private what do you expect.
I have never seen any of these problems occurring in the Beacon or the Mater Private:D:D

Ush1 · 13-02-2014 03:09PM

Do you want to lie in pain for a longer time since we have no free rooms or do you want to feel better quick as possible?

dm09 · 13-02-2014 03:09PM

Bit of a bum deal!

MonstaMash · 13-02-2014 03:11PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I'd say my cat pays more tax than her and her extended family. Looks like she got lost on the way to the Jeremy Kyle show.

Regardless of your predjudices, she's a human being that deserves a bit of dignity when being examined.

Dravokivich · 13-02-2014 03:14PM

In my opinion, I can understand if there's beds out in the corridors so patients can rest and wait their turn, but very little more than checking blood pressure, heart rate and temperature should be done in such an open environment while around others.

It's not fair on the person who's getting looked at, but you've also got to take into consideration others that are around while it's happening. It can be very embarrassing.

I'd find it unsettling to be around it, let alone to be the person who's getting looked at in such circumstances.

Ush1 · 13-02-2014 03:19PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'd find it unsettling to be around it, let alone to be the person who's getting looked at in such circumstances.

Really? I like to have a good gawk meself. Make sure the doc is gettin' right in there!

sillysmiles · 13-02-2014 03:21PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Do you want to lie in pain for a longer time since we have no free rooms or do you want to feel better quick as possible?

It shouldn't come to this kind of either or scenario if middle management and hospital management managed beds properly.

Surely there as a room that they could have used to rotate people while being examined.
E.g.they wait in the corridor, are examined in private, return to the corridor and the next person examined.

13-02-2014 03:26PM

Hospital staff have a horrible job these days. Inadequate staffing, huge numbers of patients and enormous pressure to get them seen and out asap. It's not surprising this sort of thing happens, but it shouldn't.

Respect for the individual is a cost-free tool that staff have at their disposal and they should make full use of it. A third screen might have made all the difference if a room wasn't available. It's not expecting five-star treatment to want to avoid public display of a very private matter, by the people you're trusting to care for you while you're vulnerable.

Femme_Fatale · 13-02-2014 03:28PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Do you want to lie in pain for a longer time since we have no free rooms or do you want to feel better quick as possible?

Not the point. The issue is that it had to come to her being internally examined on the corridoor (ooh matron) at all.

This has to be explained to people?

GHOST MGG · 13-02-2014 03:31PM

Laughing at some people in this thread..they need to have the silver spoons surgically removed..
god forbid its not on a trolley in tallaght hospital for all to see...

Ush1 · 13-02-2014 03:31PM

sillysmiles wrote: »

It shouldn't come to this kind of either or scenario if middle management and hospital management managed beds properly.

Surely there as a room that they could have used to rotate people while being examined.
E.g.they wait in the corridor, are examined in private, return to the corridor and the next person examined.

Have you been in Tallaght A&E? It's not always possible, it's extremely busy and under resourced.

Ush1 · 13-02-2014 03:33PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Not the point. The issue is that it had to come to her being internally examined on the corridoor at all.

This has to be explained to people?

Generally in corridors there will only be other staff anyway plus she said she had her back and actually couldn't see the process but saw a divider after. How does she even know it was the same divider?

maggiepip · 13-02-2014 03:45PM

Ridiculous complaining in my opinion - did she go running to the paper over this? Next thing doctors wont be allowed examine at all unless theres a private room because people like this jump up and down over a small error.

Royal Legend · 13-02-2014 03:52PM

At least her face was turned away, its not as if anyone would have recognised her and if they did, allowing for her position, then that would be a whole other story

PucaMama · 13-02-2014 04:05PM

Unbelievable how many people on here don't understand that a patient has a right to privacy no matter if they are private patients or not. I wonder if I was looking after your family members in hospital would it be OK to neglect their privacy because I was busy I don't think so.

keano_afc · 13-02-2014 04:09PM

Literally 2 fingers up to the public sector.

IvyTheTerrible · 13-02-2014 04:10PM

I don't understand why people don't get that you should have some basic level of privacy when getting examined in hospital.

wolfpawnat · 13-02-2014 04:11PM

Should any person be subjected to that, no.

If it decreased my waiting time however, I would pull down my pants fast as anything.

They had flimsy privacy, not great, but better than what it could have been.

anncoates · 13-02-2014 04:14PM

Well done AH. Classy.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 13-02-2014 04:22PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I'd say my cat pays more tax than her and her extended family. Looks like she got lost on the way to the Jeremy Kyle show.

I didn't see anything in the article about her employment status or tax affairs. What a nasty, snobby remark. Says a lot about you.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 13-02-2014 04:24PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Generally in corridors there will only be other staff anyway plus she said she had her back and actually couldn't see the process but saw a divider after. How does she even know it was the same divider?

That's not true. There's family members of other patients coming and going all of the time.

sullivlo · 13-02-2014 04:25PM

Happened me on a trolley in CUH before. I didn't go to the papers about it though! I was grateful to be seen promptly and diagnosed / treated!

Tallaght hospital - story in today's indo

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