Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

RiverOfLove · 13-02-2014 12:28PM

Clearly Croke Park is a terrible neighbour to the residents. Here is Croke park gifting residents with a community centre:

http://www.clonliffeandcrokeparkhall.com/

13-02-2014 12:30PM

Ush1 wrote: »

That you work for the government and spend too much time looking out the window?

What has working or not working for the government got to do with anything. As for the window, not much choice but to see out the window when its on a stairs that I need to use regularly.

bumper234 · 13-02-2014 12:34PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I know plenty that finish early on a Friday, I didn't mean a half day more from 3pm onwards (4pm being a very common Friday finish time), though I know a few who do have a half day on Fridays.

I'm not referring out the country either all these would be working in either Galway city or Cork city.

I can look out the window of work (right in the city centre) at 3pm on a Friday and traffic is building and is mental by 4pm, doesn't start building till around 5 the other days. What does that tell you?

And i work in Dublin city center and traffic is always busy so what? All this tells me and kind of proves a posters earlier point is that Dublin is (as usual) carrying the rest of the country.

wedger · 13-02-2014 12:34PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I can't really see how any straight thinking person thinks a few days of disruption warrants the cancellation of some of the biggest events in Ireland for years. Its mind boggling in the extreme.

If someone came in and read this thread, but missed the actual number of days they would think this was going to go on for 6 months. It sickening the attitude of stuck up residents that think 3 working days of disruption (one being a friday too which only half counts) means they can throw their toys out of the pram and jump on the bandwagon.

But Nox its not for just 5 nights its not for 9 nights its not even 6 months disrution... Its all year round with all these concerts and sporting events it will bring the number of events to over 50... Yes 50. Now we put up with the vast majority of them no cribs no problem. But when CP/GAA think they can walk all over previous agreements and break them at their will then its time to make a stand.
If we let 9 events go this year then next year it could be 10, 15 sure why not make it 20.
Nox look at the big picture here... While it's only 5 nights to you and 400,000 others, to us in the cordon area it's 5 nights on top of 4 other events on top of nearly 40 GAA match days....
Big picture look at it all

Rasheed · 13-02-2014 12:37PM

bumper234 wrote: »

And i work in Dublin city center and traffic is always busy so what? All this tells me and kind of proves a posters earlier point is that Dublin is (as usual) carrying the rest of the country.

Oh for fcuk sake, is this the level we're at now? Pot shots at 'the rest of the country'?

Ush1 · 13-02-2014 12:37PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

What has working or not working for the government got to do with anything. As for the window, not much choice but to see out the window when its on a stairs that I need to use regularly.

Probably similar to judging working hours by looking out a window in the wrong city.

wedger · 13-02-2014 12:39PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Clearly Croke Park is a terrible neighbour to the residents. Here is Croke park gifting residents with a community centre:

http://www.clonliffeandcrokeparkhall.com/

With a community centre they were forced to build because thy knocked down an old one, a community centre they built inside a residential apartment complex that has huge automatic gates that the community cannot open after 8pm.
A community centre that CP don't contribute to the running of. A community centre that is inaccessible on event days... Shall i go on????

Good neighbours my ass...!!!!

wedger · 13-02-2014 12:42PM

@ Nox: if I was lucky enough to finish at 3pm on the Friday of the concerts collect my liitle fella and tip off home I'd still be locked out of the cordon area... I still wont be able to come and go freely from my home... My neighbours still won't be able to let their kids out to play either in their gardens or on the streets in the area... You don't live there you don't know what we put up with and as I said before... We can only tolerate so much...!!!

Galway K9 · 13-02-2014 12:45PM

I cannot blame the residents, it was originally intended for matches, now its gone to gigs, and to top it off Garth Brooks for 5 days, 5!!!! I'd go insane. That exposure is inhumane.

ronjo · 13-02-2014 12:46PM

wedger wrote: »

@ Nox: if I was lucky enough to finish at 3pm on the Friday of the concerts collect my liitle fella and tip off home I'd still be locked out of the cordon area... I still wont be able to come and go freely from my home... My neighbours still won't be able to let their kids out to play either in their gardens or on the streets in the area... You don't live there you don't know what we put up with and as I said before... We can only tolerate so much...!!!

shouldnt that be

you don't care what we put up with

13-02-2014 12:49PM

wedger wrote: »

@ Nox: if I was lucky enough to finish at 3pm on the Friday of the concerts collect my liitle fella and tip off home I'd still be locked out of the cordon area... I still wont be able to come and go freely from my home... My neighbours still won't be able to let their kids out to play either in their gardens or on the streets in the area... You don't live there you don't know what we put up with and as I said before... We can only tolerate so much...!!!

Why would you be locked out of the cordon area? You will have a residents pass. I have seen multiple cars being allowed passed the cordon when standing outside Quinns or walking to croke park for matches.

They can let their kids out in the back garden, I'm sure they can also let them out in the front garden if they aren't totally mollycoddling them.

Even if parents decide they cant (their own decision) its only for a few days, it will probably be wet too so they won't be out anyway.

wedger · 13-02-2014 12:50PM

ronjo wrote: »

shouldnt that be

you don't care what we put up with

Thanks Ronjo... Know or care...!!! bit like a certain stadium director who stood up last night at the meeting who said that "his job was to make money for the stadium... whatever...." then he shut up when he realised he was going to say whatever it takes...!!!! After years of saying that CP/GAA wanted to be good neighbours...!!!

bazza1 · 13-02-2014 01:00PM

I think that CP and the promoters are taking liberties with the agreed 4 non GAA events that are allowed. I think they booked and sold for 5 GB concerts believing that the residents' complaints would be drowned out by concert goers.
I dont think the concerts will be cancelled or put on earlier, but I think that CP should not be allowed to put on concerts next year to make it up to the residents for their excessive disruption this year. Then the agreed concert allocation should followfor subsequent years.

Any increase in the numbers of gigs/events should be subject to agreement with the local community. The promoter/CP should contribute something to local community projects,sports ,elderly youth clubs etc to the benefit of the local community in general.

suicide_circus · 13-02-2014 01:10PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I'm not referring out the country either all these would be working in either Galway city or Cork city.

I hate to break it to you but Galway/Cork City is still the country.

13-02-2014 01:14PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I hate to break it to you but Galway/Cork City is still the country.

Typical small minded "Dub" statement.

Cork and Galway are cities, maybe you should look up the difference between a country area and a city.

Lennyzip · 13-02-2014 01:15PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

Typical small minded "Dub" statement.

Do you want some salt with those chips.....

Caliden · 13-02-2014 01:20PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

Typical small minded "Dub" statement.

Cork and Galway are cities, maybe you should look up the difference between a country area and a city.

Ah leave the fella alone he's probably never gone out further than Kildare.

Rough Sleeper · 13-02-2014 01:24PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I hate to break it to you but Galway/Cork City is still the country.

That's just a joke, really. "The country" refers to rural and small-town Ireland.

Femme_Fatale · 13-02-2014 01:29PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I hate to break it to you but Galway/Cork City is still the country.

No it's not. Your dumb opinion isn't fact. Next...

humanji · 13-02-2014 02:31PM

Oh for god's sake, get back to the bloody topic!

Cienciano · 13-02-2014 02:39PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Clearly Croke Park is a terrible neighbour to the residents. Here is Croke park gifting residents with a community centre:

http://www.clonliffeandcrokeparkhall.com/

wedger wrote: »

With a community centre they were forced to build because thy knocked down an old one, a community centre they built inside a residential apartment complex that has huge automatic gates that the community cannot open after 8pm.
A community centre that CP don't contribute to the running of. A community centre that is inaccessible on event days... Shall i go on????

Good neighbours my ass...!!!!

Useful link for RiverOfLove:
http://www.stjames.ie/Departments/WardsA-Z/B/BurnsUnit/

wedger · 13-02-2014 02:47PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Useful link for RiverOfLove:
http://www.stjames.ie/Departments/WardsA-Z/B/BurnsUnit/

Best comeback ever....

wedger · 13-02-2014 02:52PM

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/croke-park-residents-talks-break-down-without-agreement-622549.html

suicide_circus · 13-02-2014 02:58PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

Typical small minded "Dub" statement.

Cork and Galway are cities, maybe you should look up the difference between a country area and a city.

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

No it's not. Your dumb opinion isn't fact. Next...

sorry guys, clearly hit a nerve there

SpaceTime · 13-02-2014 02:58PM

I can 100% understand where the residents' views are coming from on this.

One thing I never understood is why they didn't include a railway station that was capable of handling large volumes of people under that stadium itself.

That could have taken a lot of pedestrian traffic out of the area by moving people by DART into the city centre.

All they'd have had to do is electrify the line from Connolly to Drumcondra and run high capacity DART trains on match days taking passengers to the station (with valid match tickets and concert tickets) from Connolly, Pearse and Tara Street and potentially taking 10s of thousands of people off the streets in lower Drumcondra.

A fully loaded 10-coach DART holds a LOT of people.

If you just include an Irish rail DART ticket (charged for) in concert and match tickets, it would be a huge benefit.

Smidge · 13-02-2014 03:40PM

Interesting to see that just now Lord Henry has announced that there will be NO concerts being held at Slane Castle this year.
Makes you wonder

end of the road · 13-02-2014 03:41PM

anncoates wrote: »

peaceful protests and possibly blockades/disruption of the area during events.

if they blockade any of the events it will show that they can't be taken seriously or listened to and i expect the riot squad to remove them by whatever force necessary

RiverOfLove · 13-02-2014 03:48PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Useful link for RiverOfLove:
http://www.stjames.ie/Departments/WardsA-Z/B/BurnsUnit/

Why would you provide a link to St.James Hospital's Burns unit.

Is this a threat of burning down Croker?

Smidge · 13-02-2014 03:51PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Why would you provide a link to St.James Hospital's Burns unit.

Is this a threat of burning down Croker?

:D:D

end of the road · 13-02-2014 03:55PM

wedger wrote: »

But Nox its not for just 5 nights its not for 9 nights its not even 6 months disrution... Its all year round with all these concerts and sporting events it will bring the number of events to over 50... Yes 50. Now we put up with the vast majority of them no cribs no problem. But when CP/GAA think they can walk all over previous agreements and break them at their will then its time to make a stand.
If we let 9 events go this year then next year it could be 10, 15 sure why not make it 20.
Nox look at the big picture here... While it's only 5 nights to you and 400,000 others, to us in the cordon area it's 5 nights on top of 4 other events on top of nearly 40 GAA match days....
Big picture look at it all

and? croke park is an 82000 venue, it is right that it should be used as much as possible, 50 events 100 events, thats what its there for

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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