Garda Recruitment - Stage 1a(2) - The Aptitude Test Results thread

Leml123 · 12-02-2014 05:54PM

Can someone please clarify this for me... the minister said that this campaign will provide numbers for the next few years. Does that mean everyone in band one is competing for a place this year, people in band 2 will be competing for a place in 2015 and people in band 3 will be competing for a place in 2016?

Or are the people in band one, who are successful in all stages going to be placed on a panel and called over the next few years in order of merit?

Kommunist · 12-02-2014 05:56PM

Can I just ask how people did in the actual results? I'm gutted that I got Band 2 personally but I am wondering what sort of scores I can compare mine too, here they are:

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 4780 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 6137 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 4954 Qualifying Score 3695

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Thanks!

Andrea345 · 12-02-2014 05:56PM

Leml123 wrote: »

Can someone please clarify this for me... the minister said that this campaign will provide numbers for the next few years. Does that mean everyone in band one is competing for a place this year, people in band 2 will be competing for a place in 2015 and people in band 3 will be competing for a place in 2016?

Or are the people in band one, who are successful in all stages going to be placed on a panel and called over the next few years in order of merit?

I don't think it's the former, but I don't think we have any clue how it works. If we rang PAS would they inform us of the process.

Andrea345 · 12-02-2014 05:59PM

Kommunist wrote: »

Can I just ask how people did in the actual results? I'm gutted that I got Band 2 personally but I am wondering what sort of scores I can compare mine too, here they are:

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 4780 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 6137 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 4954 Qualifying Score 3695

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Thanks!

I like to keep results to myself but I will give you one 5500 in the questionnaire. Your results are good though. I would be happy with them. You have a good shot of getting through next year.

Thecameraman · 12-02-2014 05:59PM

Andrea345 wrote: »

I don't think it's the former, but I don't think we have any clue how it works. If we rant PAS would they inform us of the process/

I agree with you, we should be told how the process with proceed going forward

Kommunist · 12-02-2014 06:00PM

Andrea345 wrote: »

I like to keep results to myself but I will give you one 5500 in the questionnaire. Your results are good though. I would be happy with them. You have a good shot of getting through next year.

Not good enough unfortunately.

Best of luck however.

stephenjmcd · 12-02-2014 06:02PM

gutted, got well above in 2 of the tests, just under in one of the tests

Raider190 · 12-02-2014 06:02PM

Thecameraman wrote: »

Wow that's harsh.... Look like there really going to start motoring with the recuirtment to get recuirts in fast, it crazy people who didn't progress won't ever get a chance of been a garda.

Band 1 done and dusted and it's on to the next stage

Andrea345 · 12-02-2014 06:02PM

Kommunist wrote: »

Not good enough unfortunately.

Best of luck however.

Aw, I don't think so I think as long as you aren't reaching the age cut off point you will succeed in the future.

KERSPLAT! · 12-02-2014 06:02PM

Kommunist wrote: »

Can I just ask how people did in the actual results? I'm gutted that I got Band 2 personally but I am wondering what sort of scores I can compare mine too, here they are:

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 4780 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 6137 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 4954 Qualifying Score 3695

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Thanks!

That's a pic of mine

Edit, I actually didn't do every well in the discovering rules section

megatron989 · 12-02-2014 06:05PM

Band 1, delighted. Placed 1593 so pretty happy with that. The example test had me worried but I found the actual tests much easier. Hope everyone is getting the results they wanted.

djor88 · 12-02-2014 06:06PM

Band 1 too folks, delighted with that!

Andrea345 · 12-02-2014 06:09PM

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

That's a pic of mine

Edit, I actually didn't do every well in the discovering rules section

Did you get band 1 or 2?

Raider190 · 12-02-2014 06:12PM

msg11 wrote: »

Well one way you could have cheated on the entire test was for yourself to register an account with PAS using another persons PPS number and downloaded a screen recorder for your computer it would have captured the entire test for viewing later so you would know the questions and answers you could have then used your own PAS account and completed the test.

That same test was used before for the emergency controller.

Anyway best of luck to all ! When is the next test?

That is why one test will be conducted in a managed location in order to compare your online test results with the supervised tests this will catch any cheaters out

Lady Kitkat103 · 12-02-2014 06:14PM

Raider190 wrote: »

That is why one test will be conducted in a managed location in order to compare your online test results with the supervised tests this will catch any cheaters out

That ya but you could have easily got a smarter person to do the exam for you! Thats another way of catching people out

msg11 · 12-02-2014 06:15PM

Raider190 wrote: »

That is why one test will be conducted in a managed location in order to compare your online test results with the supervised tests this will catch any cheaters out

I can't see how it will catch anyone out, if you know the test inside out. If you give them another test the results will of course vary from the online test.

KERSPLAT! · 12-02-2014 06:17PM

Andrea345 wrote: »

Did you get band 1 or 2?

Band 1 Pos 335

Murphster · 12-02-2014 06:29PM

msg11 wrote: »

Well one way you could have cheated on the entire test was for yourself to register an account with PAS using another persons PPS number and downloaded a screen recorder for your computer it would have captured the entire test for viewing later so you would know the questions and answers you could have then used your own PAS account and completed the test.

That same test was used before for the emergency controller.

Anyway best of luck to all ! When is the next test?

While it's feasible, is it really plausible? In my opinion, if cheaters did cheat, the questionnaire had an equal weighting and there were no right or wrong answers in that only the truth and subsequent identification of suitability. Stupidity would have to be your chief quality if you think you can bluff your way through this process, it is quite rigorous IMO. I for one would very much hope that any cheaters would be weeded out because that approach is not conducive with a role in An Garda Siochana.

newmug · 12-02-2014 06:30PM

Anyone else having trouble opening the link for Stage 2 familiarisation material?

sdanseo · 12-02-2014 06:32PM

Leml123 wrote: »

Can someone please clarify this for me... the minister said that this campaign will provide numbers for the next few years. Does that mean everyone in band one is competing for a place this year, people in band 2 will be competing for a place in 2015 and people in band 3 will be competing for a place in 2016?

Or are the people in band one, who are successful in all stages going to be placed on a panel and called over the next few years in order of merit?

No chance that they'll eliminate the 4,700 people in band 1 and call instead on band 2 straight away - they'd be eliiminating 4,700 better-performing candidates.

What's more likely is that should they not get 300 ideal candidates from Band 1, they'll look to Band 2, and that applicants in band 2 will have a higher priority on applying again in future years - but only over first time applicants in those years.

Of course that's speculation and I could be miles off.

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 4780 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 6137 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 4954 Qualifying Score 3695

Mine were

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 5146 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 6068 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 5577 Qualifying Score 3695

and that was 3332 overall.

Raider190 · 12-02-2014 06:32PM

Murphster wrote: »

While it's feasible, is it really plausible? In my opinion, if cheaters did cheat, the questionnaire had an equal weighting and there were no right or wrong answers in that only the truth and subsequent identification of suitability. Stupidity would have to be your chief quality if you think you can bluff your way through this process, it is quite rigorous IMO. I for one would very much hope that any cheaters would be weeded out because that approach is not conducive with a role in An Garda Siochana.

It's is when your doing your a85 . And before I receive a million complaints

I AM JOKING............

sdanseo · 12-02-2014 06:40PM

The thing about aptitude tests is that they are just that.They measure natural aptitude.

You can study how to interpret the questions, but you cannot study for the test. The only way to chheat is literally to have someone with a higher IQ complete them for you (except the third test, the questionnaire, in which case the only way to cheat was to have someone more suited to the role of a Garda complete it for you, or to provide answers which indicated suitability).

The first two tests were basically IQ tests, I've done several of them.

thestar · 12-02-2014 06:45PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Band 1 done and dusted and it's on to the next stage

Well done Raider, your not just all talk!!

Butterface · 12-02-2014 06:46PM

I got into BAND 1

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 6757 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 5862 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 5391 Qualifying Score 3695

The maximum score available on each test is 8000.

Your overall place is: 1140

I did it on a whim, about an hour and a half before my application window closed and with absolutely no preparation. I think that there is no way you can really prepare for these tests. I'll do the next set of tests but not really interested in a career in AGS! Just want to see how far I get really!

Raider190 · 12-02-2014 06:48PM

thestar wrote: »

Well done Raider, your not just all talk!!

Never thought I was . Glad to be through. Had some very good coaching

Juicy432 · 12-02-2014 06:49PM

Butterface wrote: »

I got into BAND 1

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 6757 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 5862 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 5391 Qualifying Score 3695

The maximum score available on each test is 8000.

Your overall place is: 1140

I did it on a whim, about an hour and a half before my application window closed and with absolutely no preparation. I think that there is no way you can really prepare for these tests. I'll do the next set of tests but not really interested in a career in AGS! Just want to see how far I get really!

Why did you enter if you don't want a career in ags, now someone who really wanted to join loses out cause of you.

KERSPLAT! · 12-02-2014 06:50PM

Butterface wrote: »

I got into BAND 1

Verbal Reasoning
Your Score 6757 Qualifying Score 3829

Discovering Rules - Abstract Reasoning
Your Score 5862 Qualifying Score 3831

Online Questionnaire Garda Trainee
Your Score 5391 Qualifying Score 3695

The maximum score available on each test is 8000.

Your overall place is: 1140

I did it on a whim, about an hour and a half before my application window closed and with absolutely no preparation. I think that there is no way you can really prepare for these tests. I'll do the next set of tests but not really interested in a career in AGS! Just want to see how far I get really!

So you're taking a place that someone genuinely interested could use? Good stuff :rolleyes:

thestar · 12-02-2014 06:50PM

I did it on a whim, about an hour and a half before my application window closed and with absolutely no preparation. I think that there is no way you can really prepare for these tests. I'll do the next set of tests but not really interested in a career in AGS! Just want to see how far I get really![/QUOTE]

Spare a though for those who shed tears today at those results, I'm thru myself but I feel sorry for genuine candidates that have foolishly now it seems, volunteered their time for nothing. The reserve has been seriously undermined and diminished today after what has happened and the standard of applicant will drop even further

dunner515 · 12-02-2014 06:57PM

Got into band 1. Delighted to say the least

sdanseo · 12-02-2014 06:58PM

Juicy432 wrote: »

Why did you enter if you don't want a career in ags, now someone who really wanted to join loses out cause of you.

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

So you're taking a place that someone genuinely interested could use? Good stuff :rolleyes:

That's not the case at all.

The qualifying score is so dramatically low that anyone with even a shadow of capability will be considered right up to interview. Even with 10,000 speculative applications.

If he does drop out, and not take a place, the next most qualified candidate will be offered it. No-one misses out. The person placed 5,001st may perceive themselves as missing out to someone who took a speculative test and placed above 5,000, but in reality they're not going to get anywhere near that far down the list even after the plethora of stages to come, including interview.

If you can't achieve 3,600 odd of a score (about 40%) in these tests then you won't be continuing. Just as with almost any other test.

Garda Recruitment - Stage 1a(2) - The Aptitude Test Results thread

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