School kids not allowed in supermarket

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 12-02-2014 04:29PM #1

My friend's child goes to a school near a large Tesco. The school has recently made a rule that kids cannot go into the supermarket in their school uniform. Apparently they're fed up getting complaints from the store and its customers about gangs of kids messing around, egging each other on to rob stuff, standing in big gangs at the doors blocking other customers from getting in and out, running around the aisles banging into people and so on. My friend thinks the ban is fair enough but she said some parents are up in arms about it and have written furious emails to the school principal and are trying to get other parents to object as well.
Just wondering how you'd feel about this ban if it was your child's school. Personally I can see the sense in it. The principal has better things to be doing than dealing with constant complaints from the supermarket, and it won't kill the kids to do without a bag of crisps or mars bar on their way home.

kneemos · 12-02-2014 04:32PM

Little basterds.

The Backwards Man · 12-02-2014 04:34PM

Nothing puts people off going into a business more than a gang of kids hanging round the door.

whiskeyman · 12-02-2014 04:34PM

If I were that principal, I'd buy the rival schools uniform and hand them out to the known little feckers and let them run amok in the store!

blackwhite · 12-02-2014 04:34PM

Where's the Tesco?

I might consider moving my custom to it

cuana · 12-02-2014 04:35PM

Its a place of business not a play ground if they can't behave appropriately well then so be it!!

minidazzler · 12-02-2014 04:35PM

I'd put a bet that it's the parents who are freaking out about it whose kids cause most of the problems.

anncoates · 12-02-2014 04:36PM

Something about parents, licences, dogs and kids.

Please thank effusively.

Cheers.

Mousewar · 12-02-2014 04:36PM

Same thing happened with the Superquinn near my school. Even one of the guys from the school who worked in Superquinn couldn't get in wearing the uniform.
They have the right to refuse admission. Fair enough I say.

Oink · 12-02-2014 04:43PM

Novalee Grumpy Oxygen wrote: »

The school has recently made a rule that kids cannot go into the supermarket in their school uniform. Apparently they're fed up getting complaints from the store and its customers

Makes sense

Novalee Grumpy Oxygen wrote: »

some parents are up in arms about it and have written furious emails to the school principal and are trying to get other parents to object as well.

Well Boohoo. Have they nothing else to complain about?

Novalee Grumpy Oxygen wrote: »

Just wondering how you'd feel about this ban if it was your child's school.

So he can't go to the supermarket at lunchtime. Poor thing what's he gonna do?

Novalee Grumpy Oxygen wrote: »

The principal has better things to be doing than dealing with constant complaints from the supermarket, and it won't kill the kids to do without a bag of crisps or mars bar on their way home.

Hallelujah sister.

Dayum. I think I'm turning into a cantankerous old fekker.

Tokyo · 12-02-2014 04:43PM

Apparently they're fed up getting complaints from the store and its customers about gangs of kids messing around, egging each other on to rob stuff, standing in big gangs at the doors blocking other customers from getting in and out, running around the aisles banging into people and so on.

I don't have a problem with it. It's not like the school, or Tescos is pulling the notion out of thin air....

jimgoose · 12-02-2014 04:47PM

It would be rather better if people impressed upon their progeny the requirement to not behave like an infestation of rodents while out in public.

ScumLord · 12-02-2014 04:51PM

I don't know, kind of seems like the shops problem, I don't see how the school has the right to dictate what amenities other people can use.

I'm sure the shop has plenty of cameras that can single out the trouble causers and then ban them from the shop. It would require someone sitting down going through tapes and following through with the ban but I would consider that part of their job.

Pumpkinseeds · 12-02-2014 04:53PM

I'd agree with Tesco, I hate being in a shop or shopping centre at lunchtime or right after the schools let out for the day, it's a nightmare. It's a long time ago now, but back in the 80's the local shopping centre wouldn't serve anyone under 18 during school hours, including lunchtime to try to stop truanting. How times have changed.

Tokyo · 12-02-2014 04:55PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't know, kind of seems like the shops problem, I don't see how the school has the right to dictate what amenities other people can use.

I'm sure the shop has plenty of cameras that can single out the trouble causers and then ban them from the shop. It would require someone sitting down going through tapes and following through with the ban but I would consider that part of their job.

It becomes the school's problem though if they are fielding calls on a daily basis along the lines of "a bunch of kids wearing your school uniform are tearing up the place".

As someone has mentioned earlier, perhaps if the parents focused less on their righteous indignation and letter writing campaigns, and more on teaching their spawn not to be little ****ebags in public, then there wouldn't be much of a problem for either the supermarket or the school to deal with in the first palce...

Donkey Oaty · 12-02-2014 04:57PM

There was a school in England, forget where exactly, that had a big sign outside saying "Welcome to xxxxx Secondary School".

Underneath some wag had written "No more than two newsagents at a time".

upstairs for coffee · 12-02-2014 04:57PM

School Kids are the absolute worst. Clog up absolutely everything. Public Transport. Mummies collecting their precious kids right from the door at school. At the weekend clogging up town. Dressed in tracksuits, hands down their pants, smelling of Lynx, smelling of pennies perfume. Little ****s.

If I was in charge, no one under the age of 18 would be allowed into town unless accompanied by a guardian at all times. Skunks.

knarkypants · 12-02-2014 05:00PM

The secondary school near where I am stopped allowing the kids outside the school grounds at lunchtime. They opened a canteen in the school where kids can buy a sandwich/roll if they didn't bring a packed lunch. They have fruit available for free too.

The residents and shops where delighted as it stopped anti social behavior and excessive littering in the town.

Problem solved.

ScumLord · 12-02-2014 05:02PM

mike_ie wrote: »

It becomes the school's problem though if they are fielding calls on a daily basis along the lines of "a bunch of kids wearing your school uniform are tearing up the place".

But the shops has the means and ability to do something about it themselves they just seem to be passing the buck.

As someone has mentioned earlier, perhaps if the parents focused less on their righteous indignation and letter writing campaigns, and more on teaching their spawn not to be little ****ebags in public, then there wouldn't be much of a problem for either the supermarket or the school to deal with in the first palce...

I'm sure parents do, I know my parents did, it didn't stop me acting the shyte when I was out with friends. I'm sure it was the same for my parents and just about every human being on the planet that had to go through adolescence. I can never get over how quickly people forget they did the exact same stuff when they were young or at the very least would have seen the same stuff happening. There's absolutely nothing unique about todays kids.

McDermotX · 12-02-2014 05:02PM

Kids are running wild, and I blame Mr. and Mrs. Never-spank.

Eeden · 12-02-2014 05:05PM

I don't like the idea of uniforms in the first place, and this is one of the reasons why.

Tokyo · 12-02-2014 05:05PM

I like the idea of uniforms, and this is exactly the reason why.....

Lapin · 12-02-2014 05:09PM

Novalee Grumpy Oxygen wrote: »

.....parents are up in arms about it.....

The parents - Yesterday

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And the scene later that evening -

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Getting serious now.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 12-02-2014 05:09PM

ScumLord wrote: »

But the shops has the means and ability to do something about it themselves they just seem to be passing the buck.

Not really. It would be very difficult to ensure that the trouble makers didn't gain entry to the shop after they've been banned. A bunch of kids in school uniform all arriving in at the same time can look quite indistinguishable from each other. I would imagine it was a mutually suitable arrangement. The supermarket don't have the kids clogging up the place and putting off customers who are actually spending money and not just using the shop as a playground; and the school is not being held responsible for the kids' behaviour once the school day is over. If the kids have nothing to hang around for they'll go home and become their parents' responsiblity.

vitani · 12-02-2014 05:11PM

Sounds fair enough. Our secondary school made the same rule back in the day, and the shops themselves at other times would only let a certain number of students in at once. There's no need for a schoolkid to go to a shop at lunchtime.

blackwhite · 12-02-2014 05:18PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't know, kind of seems like the shops problem, I don't see how the school has the right to dictate what amenities other people can use.

I'm sure the shop has plenty of cameras that can single out the trouble causers and then ban them from the shop. It would require someone sitting down going through tapes and following through with the ban but I would consider that part of their job.

TBH, I think the school bringing in a rule is a much better solution.

Tesco ban the kids, plenty of them will turn it into a game of cat and mouse, trying to get in without security stopping them. Other than catching the little shits who've been stealing stuff and pressing charges, there's nothing Tesco can do for the rest of the troublemakers except keep removing them from the store.

With the school bringing in the rule Tesco can simply provide images from CCTV and the school can then impose punishments on the kids as it sees fit. IMO there's more of a deterrent there than Tesco simply saying "you're banned."

Any school I've ever dealt with has had some provision in the rules that mean you are subject to school rules if you are wearing the uniform. When wearing the uniform you are deemed to be representing the school, or some similar logic.
I really don't see any issue with the school imposing such a rule if it has been brought to their attention that some students are tarnishing the school's name/reputation.

anncoates · 12-02-2014 05:21PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I'd agree with Tesco, I hate being in a shop or shopping centre at lunchtime or right after the schools let out for the day, it's a nightmare.

Maybe if you asked nicely, they might evacuate the shopping centre for you while you get your messages.

Tokyo · 12-02-2014 05:29PM

ScumLord wrote: »

But the shops has the means and ability to do something about it themselves they just seem to be passing the buck.

I don't agree. How is the shop supposed to identify individual children from security footage. The best thy would be able to do is send said footage off to the school for a member of staff to go through and identify the cuplrits. The same parents complaining now would be jumping up and down because a teacher had been pulled away from the classroom to view video footage instead.

I'm sure parents do, I know my parents did, it didn't stop me acting the shyte when I was out with friends. I'm sure it was the same for my parents and just about every human being on the planet that had to go through adolescence. I can never get over how quickly people forget they did the exact same stuff when they were young or at the very least would have seen the same stuff happening. There's absolutely nothing unique about todays kids.

I sincerely doubt it. For a few reasons. First, my school simply put a blanket ban on students leaving the school grounds, unless they had a note to go home for lunch. Second, if I went home complaining that I wasn't allowed into the local Tesco anymore, my old man, rightly so, would tell me I had it coming because me and my friends that been acting the ****ebag, rather than jumping up on his high horse and starting a letter writing campaign, because "my Michael would NEVER be part of such delinquent activities", and third, I had more respect than to do it to begin with, because unlike today's kids, my actions actually had consequences, namely a wallop across the back of the head fro being a little ****.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 12-02-2014 05:32PM

Some parents do seem very quick to jump to their kids' defence nowadays, rushing down to the school to complain about the slightest thing. I suspect they're often the parents whose kids are the worst troublemakers and arrogant little sh*ts with a sense of entitlement.

Femme_Fatale · 12-02-2014 05:34PM

I don't agree with it. What about the kids who go into Tesco and don't act the tit? Why should they all get punished for the behaviour of some of them. Just throw the troublemakers out, that way the blame is correctly focused.

upstairs for coffee wrote: »

Dressed in tracksuits, smelling of Lynx, smelling of pennies perfume. Little ****s.

Wow, such monsters! :eek:

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 12-02-2014 05:39PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I don't agree with it. What about the kids who go into Tesco and don't act the tit? Why should they all get punished for the behaviour of some of them.

That's life though. Rules are often made to curtail the activities of the minority eg they've recently made quite stringent sick leave rules where I work because a small minority were abusing the system and taking ridiculous amounts of sick time. It now means everyone has to get Dr's certs for sick leave of more than one day. Annoying but there was no other way of dealing with it.

School kids not allowed in supermarket

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