Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

MaxPower89 · 11-02-2014 12:55AM

Wonder will Arsene mix it up on Wednesday?

Giroud was rubbish(I know almost everyone was..), but he had a good chance early on in the game when it was only 1-0, only to take a bad touch and lose it doing a stupid dribble and the way he lost it after receiving it from Wilshere was very bad also, he looks tired to me. I wouldnt be against seeing Bendtner getting a start.

Gibbs and Rosicky surely will have to come in too.

greendom · 11-02-2014 01:07AM

It's very frustrating with Wilshere. He builds up a head of steam and becomes more and more influential in games, then he gets injured. He comes back rusty but improves game on game and then gets injured again. At least this time he was only out a short while and hopefully will find his best form again shortly. If only he could stay uninjured for 20 games +.

TheCoolWay · 11-02-2014 01:13AM

Woooo we're getting Lloris

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9160743/olivier-giroud-says-tottenham-keeper-hugo-lloris-would-be-welcome-at-arsena

Giroud the troll!

Spanish Johnny · 11-02-2014 01:15AM

TheCoolWay wrote: »

Woooo we're getting Lloris

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9160743/olivier-giroud-says-tottenham-keeper-hugo-lloris-would-be-welcome-at-arsena

Giroud the troll!

Hopefully Ches doesn't take it personally!

batistuta9 · 11-02-2014 01:21AM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Hopefully Ches doesn't take it personally!

revenge for Lewandoski

Spanish Johnny · 11-02-2014 01:25AM

batistuta9 wrote: »

revenge for Lewandoski

Ha good spot!

Gringo180 · 11-02-2014 02:19AM

Totally off topic lads but just wondering how many players in our current squad would get into our invincibles team?? I can only think of 1 or 2 to be honest.

11-02-2014 02:25AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Totally off topic lads but just wondering how many players in our current squad would get into our invincibles team?? I can only think of 1 or 2 to be honest.

I'd have Mert or Koscielny over Kolo Toure, probably Cashley over Gibbs and Sagna over Lauren. I think any of our current midfielders are more than likely better than Edu.

Spanish Johnny · 11-02-2014 02:28AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Totally off topic lads but just wondering how many players in our current squad would get into our invincibles team?? I can only think of 1 or 2 to be honest.

Squad wise the defence has to have the most prospects? Look at some of the back up for the Invincibles and it's scarce.

Theo is under rated by many but in my opinion is an excellent player for us who consistently delivers.

Getting into the team is different to the squad though.

Sagna v Lauren?

Toure v Koscielny/Mertesacker?

After that is there much debate?

Gringo180 · 11-02-2014 02:31AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd have Mert or Koscielny over Kolo Toure, probably Cashley over Gibbs and Sagna over Lauren. I think any of our current midfielders are more than likely better than Edu.

I would have Lauren over Sagna myself, he was hard as nails a very under rated payer in that team. Edu was a squad member im talking about getting into the starting 11

Koscielny for me instead of Toure and maybe Ozil for Ljungberg.

Spanish Johnny · 11-02-2014 02:34AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

I would have Lauren over Sagna myself, he was hard as nails a very under rated payer in that team. Edu was a squad member im talking about getting into the starting 11 Koscielny for me instead of Toure and maybe Ozil for Ljundberg.

Id just give it to Sagna over Lauren and maybe Kos over Kolo too.

And Gringo I think you are gone barking mad if you would have Ozil in any best Arsenal 11 on his play for the Club so far ahead of Theo Walcott or even Santi for that matter!:P

Gringo180 · 11-02-2014 02:36AM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Id just give it to Sagna over Lauren and maybe Kos over Kolo too.

And Gringo I think you are gone barking mad if you would have Ozil in any best Arsenal 11 on his play for the Club so far ahead of Theo Walcott or even Santi for that matter!:P

I just wanna see how he fairs with a pacey centre forward like Henry making runs along with Bobby Pires

11-02-2014 02:39AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

I would have Lauren over Sagna myself, he was hard as nails a very under rated payer in that team. Edu was a squad member im talking about getting into the starting 11 Koscielny for me instead of Toure and maybe Ozil for Ljungberg.

Edu started quite a few games and Wenger more or less went to 4-5-1 with Henry up top but overall i get what your saying so scrap that.

Wouldnt have anyone over Gilberto who was a super engine in that midfield although his passing could be wayward on occasion. I understand what your saying re Lauren. I still just think Sagna offers slightly more defensively. Id probably go with Koc too because his pace would make up for Sols lack of.

Spanish Johnny · 11-02-2014 02:42AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

I just wanna see how he fairs with a pacey centre forward like Henry making runs along with Bobby Pires

I get ya. It's a good question though - just shows how good that team was.

I would set a very high criteria to get into that team not only in terms of quality and reputation but application, effort, bravery, will to win, etc.

Id love a lot of them back now but as Tipp Gunner pointed out Gilberto was a great player. Would love his equivalent now too outside the other obvious attacking options we could do with.

11-02-2014 02:49AM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

I get ya. It's a good question though - just shows how good that team was.

I would set a very high criteria to get into that team not only in terms of quality and reputation but application, effort, bravery, will to win, etc.

Id love a lot of them back now but as Tipp Gunner pointed out Gilberto was a great player. Would love his equivalent now too outside the other obvious attacking options we could do with.

The only one that could push Gilberto in terms of box to box dynamism is Flamster really. If Arteta was younger like in his Everton days then perhaps he could challenge for a spot also but otherwise id see no reason to take Gilberto out of the team.
There is plenty of our squad today who could challenge our squad players of back then like Podolski for Wiltord, Rosicky for Romford Pele, etc but most of our first 11 and Bergkamp are untouchable.

Gringo180 · 11-02-2014 02:49AM

Gilberto Silva signed for us for pittance too, World Cup winner and we only paid around 4 million. What a player, he was a machine.

11-02-2014 02:51AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Gilberto Silva signed for us for pittance too, World Cup winner and we only paid around 4 million. What a player, he was a machine.

When you think how quick he settled in and then consider what Spurs paid for Paulinho last summer for example....football really has changed since the new money came flooding in.

emergingstar · 11-02-2014 03:21AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The only one that could push Gilberto in terms of box to box dynamism is Flamster really. If Arteta was younger like in his Everton days then perhaps he could challenge for a spot also but otherwise id see no reason to take Gilberto out of the team.
There is plenty of our squad today who could challenge our squad players of back then like Podolski for Wiltord, Rosicky for Romford Pele, etc but most of our first 11 and Bergkamp are untouchable.

Ramsey no

Oranage2 · 11-02-2014 09:44AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Gilberto Silva signed for us for pittance too, World Cup winner and we only paid around 4 million. What a player, he was a machine.

Didn't he play a few games with a broken back? beast!

keano_afc · 11-02-2014 09:51AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Didn't he play a few games with a broken back? beast!

Suddenly the signing of Kallstrom makes sense....

11-02-2014 11:27AM

emergingstar wrote: »

Ramsey no

he'd definately give food for thought but still early for him in my opinion

emergingstar · 11-02-2014 11:44AM

Sanaogo back

I hope he comes on and nuts the head of rvp

shano_88 · 11-02-2014 11:54AM

Its so important that we put in an impressive performance against United. If we dont win out next 2 games, It could be nearly season over.

Thats how important it is.

Rosicky and Gibbs for Ox and Monreal are my only changes.

Gringo180 · 11-02-2014 12:07PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Sanaogo back

I hope he comes on and nuts the head of rvp

Was he even on the bench when he was fit?? Although its good he is fit again, but im not sure its much of a boost to the first team.

keano_afc · 11-02-2014 12:14PM

He played a couple of times early in the season, and looked raw. And thats being kind.

Gringo180 · 11-02-2014 12:21PM

keano_afc wrote: »

He played a couple of times early in the season, and looked raw. And thats being kind.

Yeah i mentioned that myself a few weeks back. Its just ive seen a few Arsenal websites this morning raving about him been back fit as if he was an important player in our squad.

Pepe LeFrits · 11-02-2014 12:22PM

Edu was better for us than Gilberto during the Invincible season and pushed him out of the team in the latter stages of the season.

The season obviously isn’t over but based on performances so far this season, I’d have Koscielny over Toure and Sagna over Lauren. I suppose you could argue for Ozil over Bergkamp and Ramsey’s inclusion over Edu/Gilberto but really, Ramsey’s role is the equivalent of Vieira’s. Ramsey’s season is comparable to Vieira’s 03/04 too, maybe even favourably, but then he’s missed a fair bit of it now through injury.

greendom · 11-02-2014 12:32PM

keano_afc wrote: »

He played a couple of times early in the season, and looked raw. And thats being kind.

Might not see much of him for a while. Probably be in the U21s for a few weeks.

HazDanz · 11-02-2014 12:33PM

Giroud needs a goal against united. The man is low on confidence I think, a goal against united might kick start that drive he had at the start of the season.

greendom · 11-02-2014 12:36PM

HazDanz wrote: »

Giroud needs a goal against united. The man is low on confidence I think, a goal against united might kick start that drive he had at the start of the season.

Him and Ozil combined to good effect on a few occasions earlier in the season - Napoli and Sunderland spring to mind. Would be great if that combination could put United to the sword tomorrow.

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