Garda Ombudsman offices bugged

Phoebas · 10-02-2014 07:41PM

MilanPan!c wrote: »

It's not about the source is it? The government hasn't denied it. GSOC hasn't denied it. The company admitted they did work.

Wise up.

It is very much about the source if you're going to categorise the information coming from the source as 'highly credible'.

sopretty · 10-02-2014 07:46PM

Phoebas wrote: »

It is very much about the source if you're going to categorise the information coming from the source as 'highly credible'.

You're assuming Phoebas, that the 'highly credible source' is the company who carried out the work? I didn't get that from the article...... The 'source' could be anyone!

MilanPan!c · 10-02-2014 07:47PM

Phoebas wrote: »

It is very much about the source if you're going to categorise the information coming from the source as 'highly credible'.

Maybe it was yesterday evening, but after all that's happened today, no.

MilanPan!c · 10-02-2014 07:48PM

Uriel. wrote: »

Legally bound to report what?

EK was talking out of his arse.

Phoebas · 10-02-2014 07:49PM

sopretty wrote: »

You're assuming Phoebas, that the 'highly credible source' is the company who carried out the work? I didn't get that from the article...... The 'source' could be anyone!

I doubt that the company is the source. I'd be amazed if a security company leaked this information; who'd ever hire them again?

The source is more likely to be someone in GSOC.

Uriel. · 10-02-2014 07:50PM

MilanPan!c wrote: »

EK was talking out of his arse.

It would seem so to me too but some posters are going to come on here to provide a reasoned and evidence supported argument as to why/how GSOC broke the law...

... And then I woke up

MilanPan!c · 10-02-2014 07:51PM

Phoebas wrote: »

I doubt that the company is the source. I'd be amazed if a security company leaked this information; who'd ever hire them again?

The source is more likely to be someone in GSOC.

You see now that GSOC has directly confirmed this, the bugging.

sopretty · 10-02-2014 07:51PM

Phoebas wrote: »

I doubt that the company is the source. I'd be amazed if a security company leaked this information; who'd ever hire them again?

The source is more likely to be someone in GSOC.

And someone within GSOC is not a 'highly credible source'?

From the GSOC statement, we'll never know anything about this.

Hootanany · 10-02-2014 07:52PM

I hope this pathetic Government collapse's after this one roll on the Election.

Phoebas · 10-02-2014 07:53PM

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Maybe it was yesterday evening, but after all that's happened today, no.

I might be behind the curve on this one, but all I've seen today is some secondary reporting of the same story, various parties calling for clarification and the Minister looking for an explanation from the GSOC.

Femme_Fatale · 10-02-2014 07:54PM

Banjo String wrote: »

Sometimes Ireland makes a country like Iran look like Disney world.

Ah here... For starters, look at us being able to criticise it away not a bother.

Uriel. · 10-02-2014 07:54PM

Hootanany wrote: »

I hope this pathetic Government collapse's after this one roll on the Election.

It won't collapse and who are you proposing to put in its place?

Hootanany · 10-02-2014 07:55PM

But surely he had to sanction said bugging? Allegedly

Kaizersoze81 · 10-02-2014 07:55PM

Gsoc statement on rte news "we found no evidence of garda wrongdoing". So can all of those people who were jumping to conclusions that it was Gardai bugging Gsoc wind their necks back in please.

MilanPan!c · 10-02-2014 07:55PM

Phoebas wrote: »

I might be behind the curve on this one, but all I've seen today is some secondary reporting of the same story, various parties calling for clarification and the Minister looking for an explanation from the GSOC.

You might be behind the curve yes.

MilanPan!c · 10-02-2014 07:56PM

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

Gsoc statement on rte news "we found no evidence of garda wrongdoing".

Maybe OJ can be brought in to find the real killers.

keith16 · 10-02-2014 07:56PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Ah here... For starters, look at us being able to criticise it away not a bother.

Unless you're a journalist in a national newspaper.

Shady Tady · 10-02-2014 07:57PM

If shatter accepted that explanation then he should resign, another whitewash! Everyone is tarnished and no one is to blame! This is not going to go away and if journalists are any good in this country ( they aren't) they need to get to the bottom of this!

Phoebas · 10-02-2014 07:57PM

sopretty wrote: »

And someone within GSOC is not a 'highly credible source'?

We don't even know if it was from someone in the GSOC.
If it was, maybe it was a senior official who wasn't willing to be part of a cover up or maybe it was some mid level clerk who misunderstood the information.

We just don't know - that's why I couldn't say at this point that it's 'highly credible'

Kaizersoze81 · 10-02-2014 07:57PM

I think it's clear that they don't know who is responsible for it. Head of Gsoc should resign for failing to report this to the Government.
They think theyre a law onto themselves.

Phoebas · 10-02-2014 07:58PM

MilanPan!c wrote: »

You might be behind the curve yes.

What is the other information that came out today that you are referring to?

My name is URL · 10-02-2014 07:58PM

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

Gsoc statement on rte news "we found no evidence of garda wrongdoing". So can all of those people who were jumping to conclusions that it was Gardai bugging Gsoc wind their necks back in please.

They found no evidence of wrong doing in any group. They haven't a clue who is responsible, so it's still just as likely to be Gardai / the DoJ as much as anyone else.

Kaizersoze81 · 10-02-2014 08:00PM

My name is URL wrote: »

They found no evidence of wrong doing in any group. They haven't a clue who is responsible, so it's still just as likely to be Gardai / the DoJ as much as anyone else.

Exactly. It's anyone and everyone getting tarnished with this, despite any credible evidence. It could be insiders in GSOC for all we know.

Heads should roll over this.

Shady Tady · 10-02-2014 08:00PM

Looking forward to the usual cabinet leak in the morning!

older i get better i was · 10-02-2014 08:02PM

Garda commissioner written all over it, he shudda got chop over boxing off penalty points anyway and his outrageous performance in front of the PAC.

Hootanany · 10-02-2014 08:03PM

He's got friends in high places.

Uriel. · 10-02-2014 08:03PM

Shady Tady wrote: »

If shatter accepted that explanation then he should resign, another whitewash! Everyone is tarnished and no one is to blame! This is not going to go away and if journalists are any good in this country ( they aren't) they need to get to the bottom of this!

Why does he need to resign?

Kaizersoze81 · 10-02-2014 08:03PM

Could be anyone. Journalists/British M15/Garda/Army/disgruntled gsoc employee.

But let's not let the facts get in the way of a good witch hunt, and blame it on the gardai

Uriel. · 10-02-2014 08:04PM

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

I think it's clear that they don't know who is responsible for it. Head of Gsoc should resign for failing to report this to the Government.
They think theyre a law onto themselves.

Why does he need to resign? What makes them a law onto themselves?

Phoebas · 10-02-2014 08:04PM

My name is URL wrote: »

They found no evidence of wrong doing in any group. They haven't a clue who is responsible, so it's still just as likely to be Gardai / the DoJ as much as anyone else.

The very strange thing about this story is that this apparently happened last year, the GSOC investigation has been inconclusive and it seems that they haven't seen fit either to pursue it further or to report it to the Minister.

Its like they were just going to let it slide - perhaps this is what promoted the leaker.

Garda Ombudsman offices bugged

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