Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

ronjo · 10-02-2014 02:25PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Well if the promoters are going to cancel the dates then surely they would have to compensate the people who paid somehow?

Are you not entitled to a refund for something which you paid for that was then cancelled?

Or is the case that only the local residents should be entitled to any money in all this?

Well yes obviously.

Money back I mean

weldoninhio · 10-02-2014 02:26PM

Its a pretty pointless argument. All 5 concerts will go ahead, and there is not a thing the local residents will be able to do about it. Theres no point getting wound up by the posters claiming the Monday and Tuesday should be cancelled. They will happen.

I'm looking forward to it.

AudreyHepburn · 10-02-2014 02:28PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Its a pretty pointless argument. All 5 concerts will go ahead, and there is not a thing the local residents will be able to do about it. Theres no point getting wound up by the posters claiming the Monday and Tuesday should be cancelled. They will happen.

I'm looking forward to it.

Unless the residents get their injuction through, which with level of uproar this whole thing seems to have caused, they may just do.

weldoninhio · 10-02-2014 02:42PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Unless the residents get their injuction through, which with level of uproar this whole thing seems to have caused, they may just do.

There is 0% chance of the residents getting an injunction. The promoter would have checked, off the record, that they would get the go-ahead beforehand. Even before the first tickets went on sale, Brooks said that he could do 5 nights if the people wanted them. They knew the dates were available. DCC will give the concerts their blessing and it will breeze through court.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded, this isn't 2 college students setting up a college night, its a multi million euro cash-cow. I'd say some palms might be greased, but thats business.

Can't wait!! I've tickets for the Monday!!!!

ProfessorPlum · 10-02-2014 02:45PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

There is 0% chance of the residents getting an injunction. The promoter would have checked, off the record, that they would get the go-ahead beforehand. Even before the first tickets went on sale, Brooks said that he could do 5 nights if the people wanted them. They knew the dates were available. DCC will give the concerts their blessing and it will breeze through court.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded, this isn't 2 college students setting up a college night, its a multi million euro cash-cow. I'd say some palms might be greased, but thats business.

Can't wait!! I've tickets for the Monday!!!!

Jez, we've really come a long way, haven't we.
I do not have the words to reply to that.

weldoninhio · 10-02-2014 02:53PM

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

Jez, we've really come a long way, haven't we.
I do not have the words to reply to that.

You'd have to be living a very sheltered life if you think it doesn't go on. Might not be very moral, but its business.

Overheal · 10-02-2014 03:15PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

While most likely an idle threat it demonstrates how annoyed I would be if I were to miss the concert.

You talk about levels of entitlement. I paid for a ticket so yes I am entitled to see the concert, the most entitlement being shown is by residents who think they should be able to control what happens on a public street and in a stadium that they have absolutely no say over.

Your ticket can be refunded.

It's not so much a question of what happens outside their home (and nevermind the parking bollocks), but a question of all that noise bleeding inside of their homes, shaking their walls and doors, keeping their kids up, etc.

10-02-2014 03:22PM

Overheal wrote: »

Your ticket can be refunded.

It's not so much a question of what happens outside their home (and nevermind the parking bollocks), but a question of all that noise bleeding inside of their homes, shaking their walls and doors, keeping their kids up, etc.

What about people who have spent 100's of euro on accommodation?

There is a noise curfew, there will be no music played passed 10:30 or 11pm. So by time the vast majority are going to bed there wont be a problem. I would say the vast majority of kids would sleep though it and if they don't a few less hours sleep for a few nights are hardly the end of the world.

Cancelling one night ruins the plans of 80k people remember. That's a lot of peoples enjoyment to ruin, not to mention the costs.

ProfessorPlum · 10-02-2014 03:22PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

You'd have to be living a very sheltered life if you think it doesn't go on. Might not be very moral, but its business.

Your right, it's not moral. And it's not business either. It's corruption. I'm no saying it doesn't go on, and I'm certainly not living a very sheltered life, but there are better ways to do business than resort to bribes. I thought the demise of the celtic tiger might have taught us something.

Whatever the outcome of this debacle, I sincerely hope no 'palms are greased' on either side.

Overheal · 10-02-2014 03:27PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

What about people who have spent 100's of euro on accommodation?

You mean like the people who make housing payments around the stadium vicinity? Your argument is invalid.

There is a noise curfew, there will be no music played passed 10:30 or 11pm. So by time the vast majority are going to bed there wont be a problem. I would say the vast majority of kids would sleep though it and if they don't a few less hours sleep for a few nights are hardly the end of the world.

That's relatively fair on the concert itself, you still mess about with the 2 hours of people shuffling about getting out of the stadium or hanging around the locality boozing.

Cancelling one night ruins the plans of 80k people remember. That's a lot of peoples enjoyment to ruin, not to mention the costs.

Well that aspect is not entirely the fault of the locals, but of the organizers who are stretching the terms of the agreement, afaik. They decide to slap on 2 extra dates without much checking, and whose at fault if they get told they can't do it?

Santa Cruz · 10-02-2014 03:29PM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

It'll be a national embarrassment if they get cancelled. People coming from all over the world for these concerts.

Well if that happens the Dublin hoteliers will just have to find some other suckers to rip off with their recently inflated prices.

Overheal · 10-02-2014 03:38PM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

It'll be a national embarrassment if they get cancelled. People coming from all over the world for these concerts.

A national embarrassment?

A national embarrassment is a zoo killing a giraffe.

A national embarrassment is the Sochi Olympics debacles.

A national embarrassment is dilapidated nuclear safety standards.

Canceling a night or two from a Garth Brooks concert?

Let's get priorities straight.

RiverOfLove · 10-02-2014 03:44PM

Overheal wrote: »

Your ticket can be refunded.

It's not so much a question of what happens outside their home (and nevermind the parking bollocks), but a question of all that noise bleeding inside of their homes, shaking their walls and doors, keeping their kids up, etc.

What the fúck would they do if they lived in an earthquake prone area.

Overheal · 10-02-2014 03:45PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

What the fúck would they do if they lived in an earthquake prone area.

Wow, strawman argument much?

Considering Ireland doesn't even register on the global seismic hazard charts, we won't even go there. They have a higher chance of being irradiated.

Xavi6 · 10-02-2014 03:47PM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

It'll be a national embarrassment if they get cancelled. People coming from all over the world for these concerts.

Selling enough tickets for five nights in the first place is more of a national embarrassment

10-02-2014 03:56PM

Overheal wrote: »

A national embarrassment?

A national embarrassment is a zoo killing a giraffe.

A national embarrassment is the Sochi Olympics debacles.

A national embarrassment is dilapidated nuclear safety standards.

Canceling a night or two from a Garth Brooks concert?

Let's get priorities straight.

What has any of those events got to do with Ireland? The concerts won't be cancelled but if they were it would be extremely embarrassing and a massive disappointment for an awful lot of people. I'm not even joking when I say there could be riots!

Do you not realise how big an event this is for an awful lot of people?

bumper234 · 10-02-2014 03:57PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

What has any of those events got to do with Ireland? The concerts won't be cancelled but if they were it would be extremely embarrassing and and a massive disappointment for an awful lot of people.

Do you not realise how big an event this is for an awful lot of people?

About as much as you realise what a MAJOR inconvenience this is for a lot of people, Oh that's right those people don't count do they :rolleyes:

Overheal · 10-02-2014 04:00PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I'm not even joking when I say there could be riots!

Do you not realise how big an event this is for an awful lot of people?

Wow. Spare me. The last time I heard about a protest in Ireland it was years ago over the introduction of student fees. Riots over a folk singer concert, I sincerely hope you are taking the piss.

P_1 · 10-02-2014 04:05PM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

It'll be a national embarrassment if they get cancelled. People coming from all over the world for these concerts.

No the national embarrassment is the lack of forward planning regarding the gigs. Of course people are going to get ever so slightly miffed about having to live inside a cordon for a week. For an extreme example why don't you ask the residents of a parade route up North.

Ush1 · 10-02-2014 04:06PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

What has any of those events got to do with Ireland? The concerts won't be cancelled but if they were it would be extremely embarrassing and a massive disappointment for an awful lot of people. I'm not even joking when I say there could be riots!

Do you not realise how big an event this is for an awful lot of people?

:pac:

Your gripe is with the promoters selling tickets before they have a license, or with yourself as it's on the ticket in black and white "subject to license".

Please let there be a riot though, I'd love so see the Garda riot police batterin' the heads off Garth Brooks fans with sandy vadges.

bumper234 · 10-02-2014 04:10PM

Ush1 wrote: »

:pac:

Your gripe is with the promoters selling tickets before they have a license, or with yourself as it's on the ticket in black and white "subject to license".

Please let there be a riot though, I'd love so see the Garda riot police batterin' the heads off Garth Brooks fans with sandy vadges.

10,000 middle aged Garth Brooks fans line dancing their way towards the police lines

B0jangles · 10-02-2014 04:11PM

Sandy Vadges is the support act isn't she?

Great woman to strum the aul banjo.

OldGoat · 10-02-2014 04:11PM

Overheal wrote: »

I sincerely hope you are taking the piss.

Nope, he says he's leaving it all over the Croke park area.

I think that everyone who might be affected by two gigs being withdrawn should write to Garth asking him to move to Ireland and to play small frequent intimate gigs throughout the country.
I might even go to one of those myself.
It would just be selfish of one man to ruin the plans of 40,000 true fans by not doing so. He might be inconvenienced but his fans would be happy so that's grand.

Ush1 · 10-02-2014 04:12PM

bumper234 wrote: »

10,000 middle aged Garth Brooks fans line dancing their way towards the police lines

All chanting "Don't break our hearts, our achy breaky hearts..."

bumper234 · 10-02-2014 04:13PM

Ush1 wrote: »

All chanting "Don't break our hearts, our achy breaky hearts..."

Nah they would want something dramatic like "THE THUNDER ROLLS":D

RiverOfLove · 10-02-2014 04:21PM

I'd love to see smidgy and smiley stand in front of a judge seeking their injunction: 'this fat over bloated redneck prick wants to make a comeback'

I wonder will they speak in front of a judge in the same manner that they're so quick dishing out insults towards him and his fans on this forum.

RiverOfLove · 10-02-2014 04:24PM

Ush1 wrote: »

All chanting "Don't break our hearts, our achy breaky hearts..."

Thats Billy Ray Cyrus's song, not Garth Brooks.

bumper234 · 10-02-2014 04:24PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

I'd love to see smidgy and smiley stand in front of a judge seeking their injunction: 'this fat over bloated redneck prick wants to make a comeback'

I wonder will they speak in front of a judge in the same manner that they're so quick dishing out insults towards him and his fans on this forum.

And i wonder if the other side will stand there and say "sure they live next to a stadium what the **** did they expect?" Or that now classic " If this is cancelled i will piss in as many letterboxes in the Croke park area as possible" :rolleyes:

ronjo · 10-02-2014 04:25PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Thats Billy Ray Cyrus's song, not Garth Brooks.

Is Billy Ray Cyrus not Garth Brooks stage name??

smileyj1987 · 10-02-2014 04:26PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

I'd love to see smidgy and smiley stand in front of a judge seeking their injunction: 'this fat over bloated redneck prick wants to make a comeback'

I wonder will they speak in front of a judge in the same manner that they're so quick dishing out insults towards him and his fans on this forum.

Dishing out insults ? Have you read some of the stuff the precious Garth brooks fans have put up .
How could I go to court ? I don't live in the area anymore but I have saw what concerts and the aftermath has done .
All I can say is the residents of D3 and D4 should be treated equally . So both venues should only have 3 concerts a year .

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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