Iona vs Panti

I think that the RTE payout was all part of a big conspiracy involving the Roman Catholic Church and the mainstream media.

We already know that the mainstream media are lying to us every day in an effort to manipulate our brains. It has also been proven beyond doubt on another forum that the Pope is Satan or the Antichrist or a lizard - see the photoshopped or strangely-angled pictures for yourself if you don't believe me.

The relationship between the RCC and RTE is already well established - check out RTE 1 at 6PM or note the Brigid's cross that was their logo some time ago. On Sundays when most of us are resting, they even broadcast superliminal messages to indoctrinate the infirm in hospitals and nursing homes.

The ultimate goal of this conspiracy was to remove the word "homophobia" from the mainstream media and I'm going to explain how they did it. I'm not going to offer any proof because I believe that you should look it up yourself and I don't have time to do this for you.

The man who started all this was none other than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. One night while he was staying in a hotel in Ballyhaunis the night before delivering a secret mass to the people of Knock, he turned on the TV to see if he could find some Baywatch or maybe an advertisement for nappies or something.

After going from RTE1 to RTE2 to TV3 and TG4 and then back to RTE1 again, he spotted Ivana Bacik on a panel show going on about something or other. There was also a man in a dress on the show who Ratzinger understood to be a bishop. These two were having a heated discussion about something but the Cardinal couldn't make out what they were saying (he's German, you know). All he could make out was the word "Homophobe" as Ms Bacik pointed and spat at the poor bishop. "Homophobe" this, "Homophobic that" - he really didn't like this woman. He switched off the TV in disgust and after saying a particularly angry mass the following morning, went back to Rome in his Steorn Perpetual Motion Machine and vowed to get the word "Homophobe" banned from RTE.

The first thing he needed was a patsy. He had already conspired to get one of his own people into the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland some time ago - a handsome, yet cuddly man named John Waters.

John Waters was a good, bitter Catholic and he didn't really like the gays. He liked to watch Telly Bingo and Will and Grace and claimed to have some gay friends but he just couldn't stand the thought of icky gay sex that he often watched on Redtube.

To him, the gays were OK to have on the TV but he wouldn't invite them over to dinner. They were almost human beings but not quite. He also had never forgiven them for what they did to him in Eurovision 2006.

John Waters had also infiltrated a traditionally Protestant national newspaper which meant that he could share his views with the country using the finest prose since Wilde - although John Waters never really liked that comparison. He could go on at length about how the gays were sort of OK but not quite up to his own high moral and traditional standards. He was careful to hide his true feelings in a form of verbosity unmatched since Paddy Flaherty's 900,000 word Musings on Each Entry of the Collins International Thesaurus 2012.

He railed against the Gay Lobby and their friends in the Liberal Agenda - he knew that one day, divorce and abortion would be mandatory and that he might be forced into a gay marriage if these groups ever managed to impose their Marxism on the State. He would never let that happen as long as he was alive and still writing.

Most importantly to the Cardinal, Waters knew the Catholic line on everything and would repeat those lines in his unique style as though they were his own. He could formulate his Catholic ideas into such intellectual verbiage that even the educated middle classes were affected by his column.

Using his secret contact within RTE, a lizard-person on the board, the Cardinal ensured that Waters would be consulted for an opinion on just about every panel show on just about every topic. If Waters was ever unavailable, he could temporarily be replaced by David Quinn whose opinions on everything were identical to Waters's. Quinn wasn't nearly as handsome or cuddly as Waters and he looked a bit like a short angry rapist but in the absense of Waters, he was the next best thing. In any event, the Cardinal always had a man of his own on the telly.

Between the columns and the TV appearances, Waters was a very influential man. The Cardinal knew this and so did the Liberal Agenda and more importantly, so did the Gay Lobby. Waters was the man for the job. Waters was the Patsy.

The best conspiracies are those where the perpetrators keep their hands clean. Ratzinger never contacted Waters directly. Instead he added encoded messages to the all the Catholic sermons around the world so that wherever Waters went to mass, he would receive his instructions. For years, Waters would attend mass and later in the week would fill his columns with reasons why the gays and the liberals weren't to be trusted and should be feared. Week after week, Waters, came out with more and more liberal-fearing and gay-fearing - or homophobic if you will - passages.

All was going to plan and the Cardinal sneered with glee from his newly-refurbished retirement castle in Bavaria. The Gay Lobby and the Liberal Agenda read Waters's columns every week. As they deciphered his prose with the aid of a thesaurus, they would get more and more offended by message of his life's work - gays were not really people and shouldn't have the same rights as people. The Cardinal knew that sooner or later, some Gay Lobbyist would become so exasperated at being told that they were inferior that one of them was bound to explode and publicly accuse Waters of being homophobic.

This accusation was to be the final phase of the Cardinal's dastardly plan to remove the word "homophobia" from RTE. As soon as there was an accusation of homophobia against any homophobe on RTE, the BAI who had been infiltrated by Waters himself would swing into action and censure RTE. Famous homophobes on the Cardinal's team would threaten to sue and the lizard-person on the board of directors of RTE would make sure that the state broadcaster would settle out of court. This would have a chilling effect on everyone in RTE and the Cardinal would never have to hear the word "Homophobia" ever again in that hotel in Ballyhaunis.


It didn't go quite to plan. It was taking forever for someone to accuse a homophobe of homophobia on TV and the Cardinal's days were numbered. It was literally the grace of god keeping him alive.

The process needed to be sped up and for that another patsy was needed - Brendan O Connor. O Connor wasn't very Catholic but he had a few financial problems with property after following his own advice back in 2007. He could be bought.

All he had to do was bring on a gay guest and try to trick them into accusing one of the Cardinal's men of homophobia. It should be easy, he thought to himself - like taking candy from the baby that he had on his lap.

O Connor was a skilled interviewer and could lead any guest to wherever he wanted take them. On a night that will live on in infamy, O Connor had someone by the name of Panti. "Panty", the Cardinal chuckled. Not only was Panti gay, he also wore gowns and Ratzinger knew that his moment had finally come.

As O Connor grew tired of using all of his intellect to trick Panti into accusing known homophobes of being homophobic and getting nowhere, he eventually went for the killer blow: "You know John Waters and those Iona people, they're homophobic, aren't they? Aren't they? Ah go on, you can say it". Panti, who was more intelligent than even John Waters himself, didn't fall for it but instead side-stepped the obvious trap and went on to define what homophobia is.

"Close enough", thought the Cardinal. He had the following Sunday's sermons altered to include a code word which would cause his people to spring into action. They would play victim, call their solicitors on RTE, take money for themselves and soon there would be no mention of the word "Homophobia" on RTE ever again. As he drank the last drop of blood from his golden chalice, he was sure at last that he had finally won and that this would be the end of it...


That's pretty much exactly how we got to where we are now. I glossed over some of the details to avoid a CT-style wall-of-text but I think I covered the important stuff. References, citations and proof are available on the google webpage but this post was too long to provide links.

It will be interesting to see where all this goes. I think Obama and the Muslim Bilderbergers will get involved in the days to come but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Sorry if this derails the riveting debate of the last few days.

No Iona support as of yet. There will be some I anticipate though?

Is it just me or does Rabitte look asleep?

My stream is gone all laggy.

David Quinn is on Prime Time tonight. The Iona holiday is over.

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Let me distil this:

- anyone who wants to be a politician shouldn't be allowed to do it and those that should be politicians won't want to be - true

- I much prefer the guy on his own asking why it has to be this way? How can we change it? Idealistic, naive. - Yep. And do naive people win important political campaigns? Do you want to lose this? Do gay people want to lose the right to be married? So that you can be wilfully naive? Can I go out on a limb and suggest they don't.

- I dabbled foolishly in politics when I was younger and saw first hand why I never want to be involved in it again - Fair play for trying... as you can see it doesn't suit wilfully naive people...

- I hope there are more dedicated people out there that are willing to get involved and push for change. - Hope all you want, it's not bound to happen - and hasn't happened in a meaningful way in... well... has it ever happened? Are you willing to put marriage equality on the line so that you can try and prove a point about the power of naivety? And when you fail, as you're bound to do, sure all those folks that lost a bit of their civil liberties, well they'll be grand because at least you showed the man... err... what again?

- I won't fight a lack of integrity with the same lack of integrity even if the "wisened" old dogs insist I'm setting out to lose from the start. - You'll forgive me if I don't think protecting your naivety is worth trading equality under the law for LGBT people.

I am an LGBT person and I am not willing to become like those who oppress me.

Because then I become just like them.

I cut my political teeth in the first Anti-Abortion Campaign in the early 80s before moving to Thatcher's Britain to work for an East End council as the Labour Party I belonged to, and campaigned for, was moving to the right and Militant Tendency was ripping it apart.

I have been out, Proud and a vocal defender of rights for LGBT people since the late 1970s.
I helped organise the Stop The Clause Campaign
I have stood beside Angela Davis.
I have delivered petitions to the House of Commons in an official capacity.
I was at Wapping when Murdoch was destroying the Printworkers Union.
I organised food collections for the Miners.
I was an active member of the Abortion Underground in the 1980s.
I had to seek legal advice due to the actions of the Met's Special Branch after the killings in Gibraltar when my phone was tapped.
I fundraised for David Norris.
I fundraised for Mary Robinson when no one thought she had a hope in hell.
I was one of those members of the Irish Labour Party that argued for them not to enter the current government.
I was one of those members of the Irish Labour Party who resigned when they chose political expediency over and above what they had promised the electorate.

I am no political naif waif.

Please do not tell me what LGBT people need or want as if we are small children.

We have been fighting this fight for a long time now and we are winning while keeping to our principles .

€50 David Quinn tonight goes on a rant about how much abuse he receives on twitter and via email. He doesn't deserve the examples he goes on about but I hate the way he uses it as a weapon to stifle criticism of him. Everyone criticising him is abusing him is how he plays the angle. It's sort of despicable in many ways. If he equates Rory's label on him to that abuse I honestly don't know how I'm going to react.

I'm not Sen Bacik biggest fan. I get the feeling RTE put her there to make Quinn seem a bit more reasonable.

ewan whose army wrote: »

Pride was sponsored by Nissan UK, Google and Apple so its always been this way. Without investors nothing would happen.

It hasn't always been this way!!!!!! Pride happened for a long time without corporate sponsorship